Maki Zenin Vs Miguel Oduol:JJK

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Poll Maki Zenin Vs Miguel Oduol:JJK (19 votes)

Zero CE Cqc merchant 32%
CT buffed Cqc merchant 47%
50/50 21%
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- in this fight Maki has the playful clouds instead of the split soul katana to make it more balanced

-Miguel gets the steel arms (Yuta's tool) since black ropes are useless here

Who wins?

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Maki wins high difficulty. If it's a hand to hand fight with no tools Miguel will push maki to extreme difficulty. For now Maki has the advantage. She performed slightly better than Miguel against sukuna

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Maki's only chance is if she finishes the fight before Miguel's CT comes into play which i highly doubt.Miguel in his short exchange with Sukuna managed to land multiple hits while Maki couldn't and even got perception blitzed once Sukuna got serious.

Miguel dominates

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Maki beats him. His cursed technique won't work on her since she doesn't use Cursed Energy reinforcements.

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Miguel has the advantage.He is a bad match up for a fighter like Maki, who solely depends on her physical strength. Engaging in hand-to-hand combat is likely to lower Maki's stats, while simultaneously enhancing Miguel's. If Maki had her katana, I would have still favored her chances, however, under the current conditions, Miguel is likely to secure a victory with considerable difficulty.

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Maki beats him. His cursed technique won't work on her since she doesn't use Cursed Energy reinforcements.

Prayer Song is stated to enhance and diminish physical attributes. There is no indication that this effect is realized through the diminution or augmentation of Curse Energy volume or reinforcement. It should work on Maki without issue.

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Giving it to miguel more often than not. His cursed technique is Maki's worst nightmare.

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@joshtaku said:

Giving it to miguel more often than not. His cursed technique is Maki's worst nightmare.

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@ashconwell said:

Maki beats him. His cursed technique won't work on her since she doesn't use Cursed Energy reinforcements.

Prayer Song is stated to enhance and diminish physical attributes. There is no indication that this effect is realized through the diminution or augmentation of Curse Energy volume or reinforcement. It should work on Maki without issue.

In JJK physical attributes comes from CE reinforcement. It is a cursed technique, so it makes more sense that it targets reinforcement rather than direct stats

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#11  Edited By StrawDru

Maki wins

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@strawdru said:
@soyspirit said:
@ashconwell said:

Maki beats him. His cursed technique won't work on her since she doesn't use Cursed Energy reinforcements.

Prayer Song is stated to enhance and diminish physical attributes. There is no indication that this effect is realized through the diminution or augmentation of Curse Energy volume or reinforcement. It should work on Maki without issue.

In JJK physical attributes comes from CE reinforcement. It is a cursed technique, so it makes more sense that it targets reinforcement rather than direct stats

Your whole argument is fundamentally flawed. To begin with, Physical attributes are a constant across any fictional universe, existing independently of any energy systems that may be present. Energy systems may augment these attributes. For instance, in the JJK it is CE reinforcement,which does not imply that physical attributes cannot exist without CE. Furthermore, characters like Maki and Toji are clear examples of characters without cursed Energy but still possessing enhanced physical attributes. It is stupid to assume that a Cursed Technique must exclusively affect Cursed Energy and not physical attributes or aspects. Cursed Techniques are not solely confined to influencing Cursed Energy; many CT exhibit effects beyond the scope of CE. Limitless, for example, is the manipulation of space, while Nanami's Ratio Technique is equally applicable to physical objects as it is to cursed spirits or sorcerers.

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Miguel wins. He landed a few good hits on Sukuna and even went toe-to-toe with him for a moment. Plus, he's also the only one with little to no injuries after fighting Sukuna.

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I'd bet on miguel

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#15  Edited By MinhCake

I'd give Maki the narrow edge; her enhanced physicals should be sufficient to dodge and soak up Miguel's hits long enough for the combination of her speed, skill and tactics to get a decisive blow through after a long struggle.

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@soyspirit: but Gojo said Miguel is on par with him in CE reinforcement He is stronger because of his CE reinforcement. Feel free to disagree. But it makes more sense to me that his CT is related to ce reinforcement

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If Miguel's hype/how much The Racist One glazed him is anything to go by then he might be more skilled in CQC/H2H while Maki has better physicals. I don't know I still want to go with Maki on this one unless his CT can affect her. In which case he wins.

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@strawdru said:

@soyspirit: but Gojo said Miguel is on par with him in CE reinforcement He is stronger because of his CE reinforcement. Feel free to disagree. But it makes more sense to me that his CT is related to ce reinforcement

Gojo said 'without using CT'. Meanwhile the narrator explains Miguel a CT a d it clearly stats that the CT augments physical attributes, not CE attributes

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Adult Gojo literally called Miguel a pain in the ass and even went semi serious on him. In recent chapters even directly compared to him in physicals.

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Maki 6/10

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@supreme101: heavenly restriction users>Gojo is every stat not speed and maybe durability lol.

Also Gojo did not get “serious” bro stomped the absolute hell out that brother

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@ecoblitz: Wrong lol

Wrong again and I said semi serious. Gojo removed half his bandages covering one eye then went on to battle him. Not to mention Miguel had no noticeable damage from him.

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Maki beats him easy to moderate difficulty. Sukuna was more impressed by her in 1on1 battle and she took multiple bf