While thinking about creating a vs scaling thread about db, it occurred to me that with the new official material we have about Roshi/Piccolo's moon busts being outliers and scaling being as unreliable as it is right now, there is no better time to make a deep analysis based on the materials we have to clarify Vegeta's actions at that arc and the circumstances behind it.
If some are wondering why am i mentioning this, it will be to frown people from answering with ''Muh scaling'', and to rather post constructive thoughts instead.
If you don't agree with that, and think such thing that gets correlated to fillers should be used to gauge vegeta's capability, save the hustle and don't participate in the thread since it's not for you. now to the menu!
knowing that according to jump, 1 kiri equals 50K PL, that would be 20M at minimum which is far, far above what Vegeta was at during that arc.
it rather fits with that Jump statement that it takes 200-300 KIRI to destroy a planet or two [presumably mid sized ones], going off the prior materials we have.
Vegeta aiming to core bust at that sequence is anything but not low-key confirmed, but it wouldn't contradict his statue as an earth buster nonetheless. since our planet is far from even a mid sized planet in the DB verse.
it's been shown and stated that detonating a planet core take far less energy than outright destroying it, and for people who can't survive in a vacuum/space like the Saiyans. going for the former rather than the latter would be crucial for them to survive. i'd be the natural and logical conclusion to do rather kill themselves by blasting a planet while they are still in it.
which means that Vegeta doesn't need to scale to that high lvl of a PL, but actually far less since that only applies to what would be far larger, [habitable?] terrestrial planets in the DB verse where our planet is small compared to those
even if you were to strictly calculate those jump PL requirement for only a single planet rather than two, it would still be 15M at absolute minimum. 300 kiri = 2 /² = 150 kiri = 1
but the thing is those stats requirements were for far larger planets than our earth, that fits into the narrative that Freeza being the first ''proper'' planetbuster from an in-verse perspective, but from an out-of-verse one, it's more of semantics than anything because someone who can destroy earth would still be considered a proper planet buster in our RL standards.
since Freeza was shown being able to destroy planets like fickle despite being only at 500K [even if his attack was charged, the highest official charging multiply comes to us from piccolo whose Makankōsappō got multiplied by 4 times], that would still be a couple of times less than the bare minimum. showing us once again that those stats requirements are actually reserved for larger planets, NOT for planets like Earth. meaning all planets destroyed far below such limit would theoretically be smaller than such medium planets [note: far larger than Earth] in the DB verse.
that would explain why the likes of Vegeta despite their astronomically far lesser PL are still able to core bust/destroy ''small planets'' like Earth despite the scans showing us they would need a far higher PL to do so. thus, we can conclude that even if Vegeta was gonna core bust, he would have done it to ensure his escape from the follow up explosion, NOT because he can't bust earth. even Freeza gets hesitant from getting caught up in a planetary explosion. this stays seemingly consistent throughout the series even up to super.
disclaimer: this is strictly only about why Vegeta would have core busted the earth instead of just outright busting the whole planet, NOT whether he can bust the Earth or not [he can].
naturally they wouldn't go all out because of space unlike someone like Feeza who even himself does it if he's sure he wouldn't get caught up in one.
of course, there is lot of contention about this, as such is the nature of the DB fandom. I thought this thread would be the perfect place for such discussion and for me to shed light at the source of such contention. so, where did the idea that Vegeta was gonna walk off busting the earth while he's on it come from?
well. Unsurprisingly, it's from the thing i exempted off the thread initially. Toei fillers, whether they be from the Animated TV adaptation or the Animated filler movies. such as the examples above.
For the longest time, fans debated whether Saiyans can survive in space or not because of this. Those who believed they can, thought something like Vegeta needing to core bust the earth so he can escape as rubbish.
Of course, later on after the official staff showcased the proper official canon, the narrative morphed into its current form of ''Vegeta was gonna kill himself'', but this narrative of ''suicidal Vegeta'' is very contradicted by the source material. as Vegeta's reason for being in earth was to seek eternal life and such desire stayed as is later on
so that's but a fan assumption that Vegeta suddenly wanted to kill himself but changed his mind immediately afterwards twice off screen.
Not getting caught up in such planetary explosion is logical, even Freeza later on says he would destruct Namek but only detonate it cuz he didn't want to get caught up in the immediate, follow up explosion.
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Ultimately, it's a narrative forged from a bygone era where people made up what is canon or what is not for DB [when people still thought fillers are canon] that morphed into the current day form of a crowd that refuse to let go of such relic. the end
Thanks to some recommendations by other Viners, I cleaned up the writing a bit more, removed confusing/sloppy lines and provided more context as well as retitled the thread to reflect more appropriately what it's about.
note: revamp complete
Tldr version: it doesn't matter whether You believe he was gonna core bust the earth or not, Vegeta would still be a ''proper'' planet buster by our RL standards. and by DB standards, a small planet buster. Freeza being the first ''proper'' planet buster is more of semantics thing due to the disparity of planetary size standards between the DBverse and RL where's in the DB verse there are far larger terra planets than ours that constitue a medium standard. simple as that, thanks for reading.
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