The Boys: Homelander VS Soldier Boy and Queen Maeve

Duo brutalizes until Homelander flies off again, losing by bfr.

Ryan is a non factor unless he full power lasers Maeve like he did stormfront. But Maeve and SB can both casually one tap him.

Duo takes it if they can prevent him from flying off

If it's not to the death, Homelander will run. If he has to stay and fight, he loses with high difficulty.

Homelander only best SB because he attacked after SB had gone nuclear and drained himself. In the 2nd fight Soldier Boy bullied Homelander and even called him weak.

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Bruh, Soldier Boy solos

Feats say otherwise.

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using weakened Herogasm SB doesn't help. He was weakened.

Still waiting for canonical proof that he was weakened

Performed better against Butcher.

Homelander failed to beat V24 Billy Butcher

No , they traded blows for a while and then SB got involved , if the fight had continued HL would have won as he's already shown he's physically superior to butcher

No. it's never shown he's physically superior. He never overpowered Butcher in the fight. they stalemated H2H and locked on HV fight. Then Soldier Boy interfered. Show me him overpowering Butcher in that fight.

Soldier Boy KO'd Butcher with few hits. He clearly performed better.

No he didn't they traded blows for a while and then SB began to overpower him , the same would've happened in the Herogasm fight against HL if SB hadn't gotten involved and helped Butcher.

You remember wrong. Soldier Boy never interfered when they were fighting H2H. He attacked Homelander from behind when fight was already locked on Heat Vision. Homelander failed to beat Butcher in H2H, regardless Soldier Boy.

The fact that all 3 of them were required to restrain him says otherwise

To take his powers away, thanks for proving my point.

Quite the opposite actually it's implied that SB needs help dealing with HL

No it never did. Billy's superpowers were never involved in the plan. He was never supposed to become supe for killing Homelander. Butcher was always sure, even before getting his powers Soldier Boy could end Homelander. Maeve involved in literally 6th episode. Homelander was already scared shitless when he realized Soldier Boy's beam can take powers, and started to hallucinating him. He was sure Soldier Boy alone can end him.

SB needed Help in Herogasm

Because he was weakened.

SB needed help from Butcher and Maeve in the finale

Which isn't the case, he already beat Butcher in few hits, who stalemated Homelander in a strength contest. He alone could beat Homelander, but since he's fast they needed to restrain him.

Edgar states that HL is stonger than SB

I never remember him saying that.

And even if he did, that was before Nuclear amped Soldier Boy.

SB is stated as the only one Nearly as strong as HL

They were talking about Pre-radiation Soldier Boy, not post. Post Soldier Boy was superior to his old self.

Hell with multiple attacks SB couldn't even kill Noir as opposed to HL who could casually one shot him:

L comparison. He is literally using his fingers to penetrate him. Soldier Boy can easily do that, scaling from Homelander's strength alone is enough. Soldier Boy hits his head, and crushed it pretty easily.

It's pretty clear who stronger here and it's very evident that SB isn't "soloing" anyone

Soldier Boy and Homelander nearly have equal strength, but Homelander has no choice but going into H2H fight, where Soldier Boy is clearly more skilled, and top of that he also has nuclear blast.

Soldier Boy solos.

If homelander abuses his flight/speed/lasers and separates them he should win. If he attempts to fight both on even ground at the same time he might get overwhelmed

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Butcher is weaker than HL so not all impressive. Still waiting for canonical proof that SB was weakened

You have to prove that claim, because they stalemated in a strengh contest.

My canonical proof is on-screen Butcher scaling. One failed to beat him while other did.

Yes he did twice:

1) When he holds him against the wall and begins to choke him out (Hughie has to save him)

this isn't overpowering. first he dazes him with a punch, then holds him on air to prevent him using his body and uses this advantage for a 2-3 seconds.

You can clearly see Butcher resisting his strength, and he also chokes and shakes him. You can also see Homelander getting hurt by his choke and failing to hold him at that position, while Butcher looses himself with each second.

in a equal fight Butcher stopped his attack and stelamted him while laughing.

2) When he's being held by SB , Hughie and Butcher on the ground and he overpowers all 3 of them and flies away

He's abusing his flight to gain force from nowhere, Same with blitzing. He isn't overpowering them physically. You can't quantify his flight power, since it's out of science. He can lift himself with unknown amount of force by thinking. This is obviously not his pure physical strength.

There is no reason to think he actually overpowered 3 guy, when he already failed to overpower 2 of them in 1 vs 1 LOL.

Still waiting for canonical proof that SB was weakened

Butcher scaling as I already explained.

No , SB traded blows with Butcher for a while and then beat him HL traded blows with butcher for a while and then SB got involved

SB overpowered Butcher and then Hughie got involved. The reason SB performed better against Butcher than HL is simply because no one of noteworthy strength interrupted their 1v1.

Clearly wrong. SB took few hits and then stomped Butcher, to the point he couldn't even move. Homelander, even if I give you the benefit of doubt and say he's slightly stronger than Butcher, failed to overpower him, or KO'ing him in few hits. it's nothing about Soldier Boy interfering, He's irrelevant here.

Butcher clearly scaled to Homelander and Soldier Boy stomped him, not beating.

Noir flashback

He doesn't say he is stronger, he says scientists are convinced he will be. Which can be interpreted in different ways. Homelander is way more versatile, and deadlier than SB. He has heat Vision, fligth (which gives strength advantage if he uses his speed to bullrush) and X-Ray.

Nuke doesn't amp his physicals it simply grants him a new ability.

Waiting for canonical Proof that his Nuke power randomly amps his physicals

That's irrelevant here, because without his nuke powers he already scales above Homelander, as it's already explained here. He already overpowered Homelander and didn't even feel his hits few times when he was prime, not after he had a PTSD crisis and used his entire radiation blast.

There was no reason for them to try physical tests like shooting AK47 bullets in his mouth after their tests on him if his physical stats stayed same.

No he used a punch to penetrate Noir's body and then used his hands to grab his internals out

You don't even see his hands in that scene. Another irrelevant topic as hell.

That fact that he didn't and couldn't kill him with several hits and literal head bashes says otherwise.

Kimiko already penetrated him. Unimpressive feat for Homelander, and no anti-feat for Soldier Boy just because he didn't.

Agreed but it's made very clear throughout the series that HL is slightly stronger

We can have different perspective, but imo it was clearly implied Homelander scared from Soldier Boy, even before or after Butcher gaining his powers or Maeve escaping.

He thought had to brought Ryan to convince Soldier Boy, instead of flying away and hunting them 1 by 1 eventually. This is some I can never beat Soldier Boy mentality right here.

Skil doesn't make up for the slight strengtha advantage , his nuke blast takes way to long to charge up and can easily be avoided.

it does. If you don't believe that you're debunking yourself, because both Billy, SB and HM scale each other at some point, and Soldier Boy stomped Butcher with dodging his attacks. That's clearly a skill different there. I agree on his nuke blast can be avoided, but Homelander doesn't abuse his speed in fights and Soldier Boy can hug him.

-He really doesn't , HL is stronger , faster and has more versatility I do think SB is close to him in strength and would give him a good fight but HL simply wins a majority

HL isn't stronger, his speed is meaningless, since he never uses his speed to dodge anything, and only used 1 time to bullrush. Plus Soldier Boy already reacted HV which is stated to be laser (LS).

Soldier Boy is more-skilled, has one-shot weapon to scare or avoid his enemies (whenever he feels restrained he can open his nuke blast to let himself free) etc etc.