The first movie was a huge hit and made almost 300 million in China. However Andy Serkis decided to pander to SJWs in this movie and got the movie banned in China.
Sadly Chinese wont able to enjoy sequel because of LGBT agenda.
The first movie was a huge hit and made almost 300 million in China. However Andy Serkis decided to pander to SJWs in this movie and got the movie banned in China.
Sadly Chinese wont able to enjoy sequel because of LGBT agenda.
I wonder how is this going on the Balkan countries, especially Serbia and Bosnia & Herzegovina having in consideration they are very anti lgbt. It seems with no problem there, China being more sensitive than those two is surprising.
Uh? Eh? I didn’t notice anything gay?
I guess there's a not so subtle implication of a romance between Eddie and Venom (Venom coming "out of the Eddie closet"). But come on, it's between a man and an alien symbiote. If Venom was a female symbiote, it would be...okay?
I guess there's a not so subtle implication of a romance between Eddie and Venom (Venom coming "out of the Eddie closet"). But come on, it's between a man and an alien symbiote. If Venom was a female symbiote, it would be...okay?
Yes
Is this even real? What was the gay romance? Eddie and the symbiote??
There was no "gay romance" in the movie though
Uh? Eh? I didn’t notice anything gay?
Unfortunate. What is the LGBT portrayal in Venom 2?
Venom: Let There Be Carnage director Andy Serkis told Uproxx about an interesting scene where the alien, Venom, attends a rave without his human host Eddie Brock (both played by Tom Hardy). In the scene, Venom opens up about how much he missed Eddie because they just had an argument.
Serkis explained the scene was based on an LGBT+ festival and was “Venom’s coming out party”.
“It was originally going to be a carnival of the damned and it ended up being Tom had got to know Little Simz, who’s a brilliant rapper and also stars in the movie,” Serkis told Uproxx.
He added that Little Simz made a song titled “Venom” that “connected very much with the first movie” so Hardy contacted her and the “song became sort of the focus”.
“Well, Tom and [co-writer] Kelly [Marcel] were always about Venom coming out and going to a party that was a very sort of an LGBTQIA kind of festival, really, I’d call it, and so this is his coming out party basically,” Serkis said. “This is Venom’s coming-out party.”
He told Uproxx that there was a parallel between this story and the lived experiences of queer people.
“Well, what is interesting is that it’s just like, here he is kind of, he says in the movie, ‘We must stop this cruel treatment of aliens,’” Serkis shared. “He said, ‘You know, we all live on this ball of rock,’ you know?”
He added: “And so he inadvertently becomes a kind of… he’s speaking for the other. He’s speaking for freedom of the other.”
Later in the interview, Serkis explained that Eddie Brock and the symbiote deeply love each other, saying their love is the “center of the movie”.
“Absolutely they do love each other and that’s the kind of the centre of the movie is that love affair, that central love affair,” Serkis said.
Serkis revealed in the production notes for the Venom sequel that, rather than a traditional romantic love story, the film is about the “extraordinary relationship between symbiote and host”, Comic Book reported.
“The film is a love story – but not the love story you might think,” Serkis said in the notes. “It’s very much about the extraordinary relationship between symbiote and host.”
He wrote that “any love affair has its pitfalls”, and Venom and Eddie’s relationship “absolutely causes problems and stress”. But regardless of their “near-hatred for each other”, they “can’t live without each other”.
“That’s companionship – love – the things that relationships are really about,” Serkis added.
The love-hate relationship between Eddie Brock and Venom isn’t anything new to comic book fans.
In the comics, Eddie is a journalist who comes into contact with an alien symbiote that was originally rejected by Peter Parker, aka Spider-Man. The symbiote bonds with Eddie, and they become Venom.
The comics often delve into the chaotic, animated relationship between the man and the alien beast.
After years together, the 2018 comic Venom #164 added a new level to Eddie and the symbiote’s relationship – parenthood.
According to CBR, the story opened by delving into how intertwined Eddie and Venom’s consciousnesses are. Eddie begins having dreams about Venom’s previous offspring, and he questions the alien about the disturbing dreams. But the alien brushed off the nightmares as just products of Eddie’s subconsciousness.
However, later in the comic, Eddie finds out that Venom is spawning so they’re about to become parents.
ScreenRant explained the baby is delivered in Venom #165, and Eddie protected the alien while Venom was giving birth to the baby symbiote. According to the outlet, Eddie later bonds with this child then Venom entrusted him to raise.
@tobeymaguire84: That still isn't a gay romance though lol. And Venom is a Symbiote. An alien. How is that "gay"?
@tobeymaguire84: ....Ok? But that doesn't come across as gay romance, at least how I saw it, sure the two have a deep bond to one another and they love each other, but I didn't take that as anything gay. You can love your friends/companions after all. If that's what the director was trying to go for then....ok? But I didn't see it like that.
@tobeymaguire84: That still isn't a gay romance though lol. And Venom is a Symbiote. An alien. How is that "gay"?
trying to subtly push lgbt agenda by any means to slowly influence a country that is anti-lgbt won't fly with them. They will pick it up and stop it in it's tracks.
@tobeymaguire84: So you're in favour of the censorship?
@tobeymaguire84: So you're in favour of the censorship?
Glad to know the OP is pro-censorship, must be an idiot communist.
No but woke Disney censors the movies to pander to SJWs
1. Venom said woman are not his type.
2. Venom said he was out of the Eddie closet.
3. Venom loves Eddie.
4. Venom kissed Eddie.
Anything else?
Do symbiotes have a defined sex? If Venom merges with Anne does it become female? Is it physically gender fluid or is it asexual? If the latter, is this a case of gender identity for a creature that reproduces asexually?
From what I understand China is limiting more foreign films this year than they have in recent years. This might be because it’s easier for them to control the Chinese film market and the ideology within Chinese language films than films made outside of China.
@Penguin-Dust: In the comics I think their Gender fluid as ones like carnage have been referred to as male or female by Cassady in different occasions. Not sure if it's the same in the movies tho
@tobeymaguire84: Why are you support and authoritarian dictatorship over human rights? I could care lesss about Chinese audiences enjoying a movie when they can't even criticize the government. Frankly, discriminating against gay scence is petty like the Middle East banning Gal Gagot movies. If you don't like it don't watch it.
Do symbiotes have a defined sex? If Venom merges with Anne does it become female? Is it physically gender fluid or is it asexual? If the latter, is this a case of gender identity for a creature that reproduces asexually?
From what I understand China is limiting more foreign films this year than they have in recent years. This might be because it’s easier for them to control the Chinese film market and the ideology within Chinese language films than films made outside of China.
Dune, Bond. Jungle Cruise, Black Widow. Fast 9, Free Guy, all got China release. It make no sense to ban Venom even with limiting Hollywood movies
@ob1toe: Okay good to know.
@tobeymaguire84: I had heard that Black Widow did not get a mainland China release. There was a pretty good article in the Hollywood Reporter on the tenuous relationship between China and the Western studios.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/hollywood-and-china-what-now-1234955332/
No doubt, several early Chinese emperors are speculated to have had homosexual relationships accompanied by heterosexual ones.
@tobeymaguire84: So you're in favour of the censorship?
Glad to know the OP is pro-censorship, must be an idiot communist.
No but woke Disney censors the movies to pander to SJWs
Did not knew Venom was a Disney property, hear I thought it was Sony /s. Also, Disney easily censored any LGBT+ content if it means making them more money with creators often having to fight for LGBT+ representation. I mean do not get me wrong, they definitely pander to people with them saying they are pro LGBT+ to push rainbow mickey mouse product, but having LGBT+ content does no make something instantly pandering to SJWs. By that logic any white straight men Christian character is pandering to racist religious conservative.
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