Was Jesse Eisenberg too much of a beta to play Lex Luthor?

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Yep, I’d say so. Like I see what they were doing and going for with him, and even tho he still works as the villain of the film, that particular version of Lex just didn’t land.

@mazahs117: Glad someone agrees. Lex is supposed to be in great shape, speaks with a deep and commanding voice, is effortlessly intimidating with how articulate he is, and is assertive with everything he says. Lex has charisma that captivates all who bear witness of it, when he has something to say you cannot help but listen even if you disagree. Lex Luthor is an alpha male, full stop.

Eisenberg was unable to convincingly display that level of power over people.

Absolutely. Lex is not a nebbish, Jewish manlet,

All the casting outside of Cavill and maybe Margot Robbie was abysmal in the "DCEU"

So basically Jeff Bezos.

He got jacked:

Also:

@frozen: I wonder if Bezos read Superman comics as a kid and decided he wants to be Lex Luthor unlike most boys who wanted to be Superman.

Eisenberg is a good actor and deserves credit for that, Lex just isn't for him.

This alpha beta male shit makes no sense at all, a while Eisenberg isn't a good Luthor being "alpha or beta" has nothing to do with it

Eisenberg is not only miscast in the role, he takes it in an entirely wrong direction. Lex shouldn't be a mumbling psycho, he's a charismatic genius

@frozen: James McAvoy is also a good choice, at least better than Jesse

@heiqn said:

@frozen: James McAvoy is also a good choice, at least better than Jesse

He is not. We don't need twink lex luthor. We need a guy with muscles and presence.

@rudygiuliani: Yeah, McAvoy is also a middleweight manlet. We need a light-heavyweight or cruiserweight for Lex at least.

@ghostodoofus2: @rudygiuliani: You think James McAvoy is a twink?

@krisbishop said:

@ghostodoofus2: @rudygiuliani: You think James McAvoy is a twink?

Lik I said, we don't need a twink lex luthor.

@rudygiuliani: James McAvoy may lack height, but he is pretty well built. He's certainly no "twink". Or perhaps you have a deluded sense of male bodies.

Eisenberg wouldn’t have been my first choice, but the end scene with his shaved head made him look really Luthor-y.

I can see what was attempted to be done with the character if the verse had continued. He easily could have hardened and shifted his demeanor. It would still be hard to buy with Eisenberg, but not impossible.

@krisbishop: Still a middleweight. Lex should have the body of a 6'2 cruiserweight.

Nothing against McAvoy, he's a fantastic actor and can play the character better than Eisenberg but still not my ideal Luthor.

@ghostodoofus2: For sure, he wouldn't be my ideal pick either. He's smaller in stature.

My sense of male bodies is not deluded. He looks shredded in those pics you've posted but does not have the presence and musculature one would see on Luthor or the likes of batman from the comics. Luthor's physique would be in keeping with what we see of male action heroes.

McAvoys face tbh is kind of twink, too gentle/feminine.

@advent_: Have you watched Split/Glass?

@krisbishop: Yeah he dresses up as a woman, definitely feminine face, not masculine like Dwayne the Rock.

@advent_: He's supposed to be feminine in that persona lmao, did you see him as the Beast? That's far from feminine.

@krisbishop: His face is still feminine tho, ignored everything neck down and he just looks like an angry fem boy.

McAvoy just doesn't have rough features like other actors it's not a bad thing but it's hard to picture him in macho roles better than actors who already do macho roles.

@advent_: I'm not saying he has a very masculine face or anything, but calling it feminine is pretty wrong too.

ignored everything neck down and he just looks like an angry fem boy

Now I'm genuinely curious if you've ever seen a feminine face irl.

"Angry femboy LOL

@krisbishop: I must see a lot of ugly people then 😂

I feel like Jesse doesn't have too much range in his acting. He always seems to play some guy that speaks spastically. I'mma vote "no" because Jesse isn't a beta by any means, lol. He just didn't fit the role.

Also, lmfao at the moron that thinks McAvoy is a twink. He looked like a tank in Glass.

L take

ehh?

my opinion = fax

ur opinion = creditless

Man the "alpha and beta" stuff is nonsense lmao. The problem was that he acted too much like Riddler, goofy and crazy and not serious at all.

Yeah, a completely unseen idea too...

Not to say that this would be my pick, but acting as if this Lex was otherworldly is quite laughable.

My pick would be either Billy Zane or Mark Strong. Either would be perfect, and the whole erratic sociopath Lex Zuckerberg stage was 100% unnecessary. Lex and Clark work best in a contrast - Superman is the imaginary, escapist idea of power, and Lex is a realistic, hard one. He should be stoic, brilliant and well connected bigwig, no pun, that knows how to play chess with people as pawns.

Jesse's Lex reminded me more of what Lex Luthor's son would be like after his father spent his whole life ignoring him.

@adamtrmm: While I don't recognise every panel, I know all of these are pics of Lex in his late teens to early 20s. I recognise the bottom panel from the Superman: Birthright comic when Clark was first exposed to Kryptonite.

It'd make sense to cast him to play the younger Lex but prime Lex is anything but that. Eisenberg's a good actor but he's not an alpha, he can't hide his underdeveloped, unmanly voice nor grow any bigger than he is.

Pretty much. I don't really get the "muh alpha" criticism when Lex isn't supposed to be this imposing figure, all of his threat comes from his intellect and ability to get whatever he wants whenever he wants it without much care of what he runs over in the process. He's the opposite of muscularity if anything, he's not someone who's strong and his petty jealousy of Superman will always fuck him over in the end mentally, he's weak minded if anything despite his obvious intellect because he doesn't realise that despite Clark besting him again and again. Eisenberg plays the same role in every movie he does, goofy and crazy; it's his trademark. Doesn't work for Luthor.

Isn't Lex more of a sigma male? 🤔🤔

@gaoron: Lex is a glory hound, sigmas don't crave attention like him.

@krisbishop: maybe he's implying McAvoy is less intimidating and villanous with his cute face.. If that makes sense..

Great daily dose of CV losers still existing lol.

Great daily dose of the cringe lords who didn't get enough attention from parents

OT: What's this alpha and beta male bs LOL

They might be coming off the animated series Luthor? I know he was jacked. All things considered, I absolutely hate this gatekeepy attitude of this alpha, beta crap.

There are certainly better ways to say Luthor was miscast.

I wouldn't call Lex a beta. He was pretty dominant over his enemies. Incel would probably be more appropriate but then again he wasn't really trying to score with chicks.

He was simply miscast

Yeah this is Birthright. He doesn't look like he even has potential to be Alpha does he? lol

Again, I'm not saying Jesse was a good choice, but if he'd bulk up a little after getting bald, develop a more stoic personality, keep maturing into a colder, more recognizable "form" we're familiar with, that could be an organic and maybe even satisfying character growth. As for the voice, he isn't supposed to be Kratos/Keith David type, a little bit of deepening actor exercises, he could pass.

Still, if it was me, I'd have him in his 40s-early 50s, seasoned and accomplished real life powerhouse, whose "ideological" discord would be based on the definition of power, as if Superman is that unworthy simpleton who doesn't deserve it because he doesn't know how hard "the fittest" work for power to be theirs. And that's why Lex would want to break him to prove that point, instead of this whole god complex extravaganza. Which wasn't that bad too, but it's more out-there than what I think works even better.