Does start of DBZ Goku still lol stomp Naruto?

If ur talkin about BM naruto then no. BM Naruto is casually small planet-planet and FTL, while this goku is moon+ lvl and rel+.
Only saiyan saga Goku and above can stomp BM Naruto

Even if you think Goku has an AP advantage over Naruto.

Speed + Hax is still an issue sadly

As far as manga No. Too much scaling for the foxboy. In manga the verse stops at Saiyan Saga Vegeta where he kills them. As far as anime ? Yes. Even Toei Verse BOZ stomps the verse due to the Piccolo calc in anime being Large Planet lv as he not only destroys moon but hits the moon with so much force it’s debris hit earth in seconds. BOZ Piccolo tiers alone can destroy verse. This is only in anime though. In manga the moon debris never reaches earth and the feat is moon + lv. You could say same for Naruto anime. Hag n Ham feat is calc higher in anime because they push moon into orbit in mins. Which would be planet +. And duo would scale to half of planet + and be small planet + - Sub Planet lv in anime as teens But still this pales in comparison to anime piccolo feat.

The anime piccolo version would be like Ginyu Saga lv comparing to manga.

@rdcdesmond: wank

@deyyy: He isn't casually small planet anything lol. BOZ still stomps

Yes

Yes

Nah

@gdara: yes. Boz piccolo casual blast is better than anything naruto ever did. Facts.

He is not FTL, but he is faster than this Goku regardless.

Naruto from Boruto doesn't have acess to SPSM.

If it was his EoS version, then he could one shot Goku with a TSB that negates durability. Without it he simply lacks AP to hurt him and won't do damage even if manage to land a Bijuubomb.

@lucascosta: word?

No, but Saiyan Saga and up stomps him low diff. TSB is unlikely to work tbh.

Nah, Namek saga or above yes

@epicraptorman: Piccolo and Goku were moon + lv in BOZ / small planet lv with super Kamehameha and with Piccolo charged attacks

Naruto and Sasuke as teens alone would scale to Moon + / small planet lv just by having half of Hagoromo chakra who pushes the moon into orbit with Hamura. And even bsm from the last would scale to moon + - small planet lv since he can defeat a guy who can push moon for a hour while fighting. And also teens would scale to juubi madara who is small planet lv for spreading the god tree across the planet.

And adult SPSM upscales from both teen SPSM and the last bsm.

Also Naruto and Sasuke combined >> allied shinobi combined that helped Kaguya form ETSB

@Kaiser-Reb: no it’s not word he is trolling as usual

No

If it’s anime versions of boz they stomp the verse since anime version of Piccolo feat hit the moon with enough force to send its debris flying to earth at Rel speeds and that feat in anime is large planetary while in manga it’s generally moon + lv since no debris was sent to earth. The debris in the mnaga could’ve been hundreds Meters from the original position of the moon but no where near close to earth.

If it’s manga then nah Naruto would stop at Saiyan Saga Vegeta where he gets killed even with BYM. He has no counter against Galick Gun.

nah saiyan saga is enough for him

Why?

@rdcdesmond: Baryon Mode can probably one shot Goku. But his life shortening is too severe. One mistake and he will be the one dying.

If you mean due to its lack of speed, I agree, but if the TSB connects with Goku, he's dead, no matter the version.

what? goku in base already resisted void manipulation what r u talkin about

What void manipulation?

@bestdebater: the ability to turn something into nothingness, complete existence erasure. He resisted getting his body and soul erased out of existence

Yeah ik, but when?

Here. Resisted hakai which erases body and soul

@deyyy said:

@bestdebater said:

@deyyy said:

@bestdebater: the ability to turn something into nothingness, complete existence erasure. He resisted getting his body and soul erased out of existence

Yeah ik, but when?

Here. Resisted hakai which erases body and soul

That wasn't existence erasure, it was just raw destruction energy. Toppo even explains in the tournament of power that you can use destruction energy without erasing your targets body and soul and that's the one that Goku endured.

@bestdebater: In ToP toppo didn't kill no one while using hakai due to tournament rules. This Hakai thrown at goku was with killing intent it was supposed to erase him completely because he was the one who cause the ToP to happened. In goku's head it was all for fun but u can clearly see as the arc goes that the universes where in danger from the start. It was that rat like GoD that tried to kill goku while using this hakai that i posted above.

That doesn't prove anything. Killing intent doesn't mean he's using the EE haki, in fact, when ever we see EE haki being used, the user simply points his palm towards the person or object and it ceases to exist, it was never shown to be an energy blast or sphere.

Yes

Goku is Relativistic+ at this time but he still getting Blitzed and One Shot by BYM Naruto

@lameliarleo: and still no feats on boz piccolo level. Cope

Madara spreading the Tree, Hagoromo Moving The Moon, Toneri moving and cutting the moon etc...

@lameliarleo: all below piccolo vaporizing the moon with a single ki blast into particles. The tree isn't even that big lol.

He could win but not stomp

I know this post is 1 year old but the hakai Frieza and Goku resisted had indeed existence erasure properties.

Begining of Z? No