One Piece: More Durable, Kaido or King?

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Poll One Piece: More Durable, Kaido or King? (25 votes)

Kaido 40%
King 44%
Equal 16%

Saw this on Twitter

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So, who has greater Durability, Kaido or King?

And this is only about the durability between them, not about the original question in the tweet.

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To answer your question regarding durability, Flame on King>Admirals

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#2  Edited By byondeon
@mortein said:

To answer your question regarding durability, Flame on King>Admirals

This was about Kaido or King, not Admirals. And Kaido >> Admirals

EDIT: Also, Admirals > Flame on King

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Flames on it's king. Literally no sold the same attack that drew blood from kaido and even Luffy states their comparable.

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Flame On King>Kaido>Flame Off King in Durability

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Flames on it's king. Literally no sold the same attack that drew blood from kaido and even Luffy states their comparable.

Not so sure. He took several attacks from Zoro, sure.

But Kaido got a small scratch at worst. He can no sell dozens of Zoro's attacks that took down King.

He is after all, the canonically most durable character in One Piece to date

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Kaido

Marco put down King with a single Bluebird.

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Zoro someone who's capable of cutting and scarring kaido needed his durability to go down to beat him.

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Its King.

I think lotta y'all confusing stamina with durability.

Kaidos has the best Stamina in the verse...he can take hits and keep going , but he can still get damaged.

King takes literally.........no damage in flame on state. The seraphim are the same. They can be blown back and defended against but flame on your not damaging a lunarian (king)

That's durability.

It's also the reason why it only took Zoro one named move to end the fight with king when he was in flame off mode , where as with Kaido, he lost like a 3rd of his blood supply (lol) and proceeded to speedblitz Zoro like nothing happend.....thats stamina.

So order is this

1-King flame on

2-Kaido

3-Any admiral.

Earlier comment is right btw. The admirals base form is human. It's why old whitebeard was still affected by gunshots and cannons. Base form king and Kaido at the bare minimum need island levels of strength and at least some form of advanced armament and damage boost and even then it's not really a guarantee win.

This is also without them even using armament Haki defensively let that sink in.

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@byondeon: we literally saw kaido can't no sell Zoro's Emma attacks while flames on king can. Case closed

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#10  Edited By PlagueDocter  Online

@marsz1pan said:

1) Its King.

Flame On Lunarians to be more exact. A none Flame On King is trash compared to Kaido, Kaido could take far more than King ever could.

2) I think lotta y'all confusing stamina with durability.

Eh... how about Stamina, endurance, and durability, and defense.

Stamina: How much fuel is in the tank.

Endurance: How much punishment you can endure and keep going.

Durability: How much punishment before you can you get damaged (seriously).

Defense: How much punishment you can stop from an incoming force as to resist damage.

Take a mundane example a boxing fight. Stamina is being able to fight for many minutes using lots of stamina. Endurance is being able to continue fighting despite all the pain you are enduring and strain. Durabilty is being able to take a punch on the chin or to the chest and your body not being pulverized and withstand it and not break. Defense is being able to mitigate incoming punishment like roll with the punches or block them, etc.

3) Kaidos has the best Stamina in the verse...he can take hits and keep going , but he can still get damaged.

That's endurance as well as durabilty since he can take that punishment without breaking or losing a limb and can withstand that punishment for a long time.

4) King takes literally.........no damage in flame on state. The seraphim are the same. They can be blown back and defended against but flame on your not damaging a lunarian (king) That's durability.

Durabilty and also kinda hax as they seem really to be INVINCIBLE and are even basically called that by Zoro himself.

5) It's also the reason why it only took Zoro one named move to end the fight with king when he was in flame off mode , where as with Kaido, he lost like a 3rd of his blood supply (lol) and proceeded to speedblitz Zoro like nothing happend.....thats stamina.

It took like 5 named moves to defeat King the first few just to get past his mask and the later few to defeat him when he got his AdvConq.

6) So order is this: 1-King flame on 2-Kaido 3-Any admiral.

Eh sure.

7) Earlier comment is right btw. The admirals base form is human. It's why old whitebeard was still affected by gunshots and cannons.

"Human" Kizaru took a far stronger attack and ended up better than an Awakened Zoan Rokushiki Master Rob Lucci these people aren't human no one is in One Piece.

Not everyone is the same Kizaru and Whitebeard are different Whitebeard getting hurt by "gunshots and cannons" doesn't mean Kizaru would be affected like WB was (also OP weapons are far stronger than IRL).

We have people like Vergo who can tank hits from PostTS Sanji despite that Sanji being able to oneshot Pasifista.

8) Base form king and Kaido at the bare minimum need island levels of strength and at least some form of advanced armament and damage boost and even then it's not really a guarantee win.

No you don't need advanced armament, or any some such you just to need to be really strong and in the case you aren't some hax might help.

9) This is also without them even using armament Haki defensively let that sink in.

Yeah.

OT: Lunarian Flame On > Kaido in durabilty. Though it can be said that Lunarians flame on is hax or a defense not their actual durability and in that case Kaido would be >>>>> King and the Admirals also would be >>>> King.

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We saw King no sell Zoro’s Dragon Twister: the same technique that pierced and pained Kaido. This is conclusive.

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@byondeon: we literally saw kaido can't no sell Zoro's Emma attacks while flames on king can. Case closed

It takes FAR more than 3 of those attacks to put down Kaido. Whereas it didn't take much to take down King.

All it did was cause a small scratch on Kaido.

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Kaido

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I'd say King only because the seraphim were no selling attacks from Luffy that definitely had an effect on Kaido.

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@byondeon: it still worked which proves the difference in durability

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@byondeon said:
@edgelord91 said:

@byondeon: we literally saw kaido can't no sell Zoro's Emma attacks while flames on king can. Case closed

It takes FAR more than 3 of those attacks to put down Kaido. Whereas it didn't take much to take down King.

All it did was cause a small scratch on Kaido.

you're confusing endurance with durability

kaido can take on way more pain and keep on fighting, but king with his flames on can tank/no sell stronger attacks that might work on kaido

my opinion = fax

ur opinion = creditless

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@xebec said:
@byondeon said:
@edgelord91 said:

@byondeon: we literally saw kaido can't no sell Zoro's Emma attacks while flames on king can. Case closed

It takes FAR more than 3 of those attacks to put down Kaido. Whereas it didn't take much to take down King.

All it did was cause a small scratch on Kaido.

you're confusing endurance with durability

kaido can take on way more pain and keep on fighting, but king with his flames on can tank/no sell stronger attacks that might work on kaido

Kaido can tank more powerful attacks than King can.

He has more durability AND endurance. And Stamina and Defense.

my opinion = fax

ur opinion = creditless

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@byondeon said:
@xebec said:
@byondeon said:
@edgelord91 said:

@byondeon: we literally saw kaido can't no sell Zoro's Emma attacks while flames on king can. Case closed

It takes FAR more than 3 of those attacks to put down Kaido. Whereas it didn't take much to take down King.

All it did was cause a small scratch on Kaido.

you're confusing endurance with durability

kaido can take on way more pain and keep on fighting, but king with his flames on can tank/no sell stronger attacks that might work on kaido

Kaido can tank more powerful attacks than King can.

He has more durability AND endurance. And Stamina and Defense.

my opinion = fax

ur opinion = creditless

we literally saw king no-sell an attack that damaged kaido

my opinion = fax

ur opinion = creditless

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#19  Edited By Godlike_Warrior  Online

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At the end of the day Kaido is never falling before King does.

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To start with: Admirals > Yonkou Commanders.

Just look at Akainu vs Marco, Kizaru vs Jozu and Green Bull vs King and Queen.

The only exception seens to be Rayleight. Maybe the Straw hats eventually.

That being said Kaido > King.