@spongegar: Mach 10 Superman vs. lightning timing Thor?
I would argue Mach 10 is already out of the league for most MCU characters, at least until age of Ultron, like didn't Quicksilver the speedster get tagged by bullets?
Yes and Thor/Mjolnir was in slowmo to him.
As if Thor hasn't gotten faster, as if outpacing Mjolnir wouldn't just upscale Quicksilver off its own MHS travel speed feat, as if Quicksilver wasn't tiring even before he got tagged....
1.- If there's any sort of evidence that clarifies thor getting faster I would like to see it and would concede the point
2.-Even if the Mjolnir can be thrown at MHS speeds it doesn't mean that every single instance scales to that speed, Quicksilver being that fast also implies he would've saved people from that train before it was able to move, and wouldn't be tagged at all by that policeman bullets.
3.-Yeah he can get tired, I don't expect him to become more than a thousand times slower however.
1. He gets better speed feats and multiple power ups. and Thanos is stated to be faster than anyone Thor had previously fought but Thor can keep up with him. Nothing explicitly says "Thor is faster," but it's inferrable.
2. It should barring special circumstances like Thor holding back or something. Fatigue from having to carry people likely explains why he was slower in the train sequence and police scene, mind you in that same train sequence he dodges lasers from Ultron.
3. Feats point toward him being massively slower. His peak was before the final battle. In the Vision scene, he perceives a bullet as moving in slow motion, while a bullet later outpaces him. He perceives a laser as moving at similar speed to him in Africa and likewise sees Iron Man mid-blitz as being frozen, but later isn't too much faster than Wanda when he gets shot.
1.- The only reference I find about this is that statement about thanos moving faster than what Thor believed was possible, which implies that thor was the one getting outsped by thanos and wouldn't scale to that speed either.
2.-Except this are not extremely special circumstances, Thor frequently holds back, which is why when he often fights opponents that are not remotely on his level, they don't explode into pieces, and if Quicksilver is really dodging actual lightspeed lasers on that train sequence it implies that the train it's moving at near lightspeed as well which doesn't make sense.
3.-Most of his feats potray him close to bullet timing but not so fast that they're a non factor, he might be a bit higher than the transonic range, very likely above mach speed, but dodging an actual light speed laser implies a difference of a 1,000,000 times in speed, it doesn't help the case that this feat can't be replicated in any other instances where you would expect a lightspeed character to abuse that speed, which means either he can't sustain those speeds far enough to actually matter in combat or he just isn't lightspeed.
Thor seems to be only above Mach only when using his electric attacks, and after throwing the Mjolnir against it's enemies.
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