Anakin Skywalker (AotC) vs The Grand Inquisitor

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The Battle of two Fallen Jedi who later became Master and Apprentice.

Padawan Anakin as of Attack of the Clones, The Grand Inquisitor as seen in Star Wars: Rebels.

Canon versions for both, Neutral ground.

R1: Sabers

R2: Force

R3: All-Out

Bonus: They team up to fight RotS Kit Fisto. Do they win or lose?

Who wins and why?

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AOTC Anakin should be able to take all rounds honestly. If a rage-amped S1 Kanan was able to put the GI on the back foot after years of inactivity, Anakin should have no problem given his performance against Dooku (even if he was holding back).

Bonus: A little hard to quantify given Fisto's two real saber feats in canon is holding off TCW Grevious (who is wildly inconsistent) and getting cut in half by Palpy. I'll give it to the duo in a good fight

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R1: Anakin likely stomps

R2: Anakin crushes

R3: Anakin stomps

Bonus: Kit Fisto wins but he’ll have to work for it.

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Anakin stomps the GI in all rounds if someone like Kanan could get the better of him.

Fisto destroys them both.

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Anakin stomps the GI in all rounds if someone like Kanan could get the better of him.

Fisto destroys them both.

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Anakin

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Anakin all rounds

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Skywalker

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Anakin wrecks

Fisto narrowly wins.

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Anakin all rounds, but he has to work for it. Together I think they can edge out over Fisto.

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R1: Anakin likely stomps

R2: Anakin crushes

R3: Anakin stomps

Bonus: Kit Fisto wins but he’ll have to work for it.

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anakin all rounds

bonus: fisto

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Anakin stomps the GI in all rounds if someone like Kanan could get the better of him.

Fisto destroys them both.

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Anakin stomps the GI in any category, and both are dominated by Fisto in the bonus.

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Anakin stomps.

Holding his own against Dooku >>> Losing to Kanan.

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Anakin wins. (GI Is weaker than EsB Luke and Ventress)

Team wins in bonus. (Kit Fisto is Grievous level in canon)

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#19 reaperace  Moderator

Anakin stomps GI and solos Fisto.

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The GI lost to post-ESB Luke, so Anakin should win all rounds. Fisto decisively wins the bonus round.

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Anakin wins all rounds

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I don't get why people assume that Fisto beats Anakin, his best feat is beating a tired Grievous, which is something Ventress could do as well.

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@deactivated-644c7202b7524: don’t see how grievous could tire, he’s a machine without organic muscles to tire out

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#24  Edited By Ieatnettles
@quigonchin said:

@deactivated-644c7202b7524: don’t see how grievous could tire, he’s a machine without organic muscles to tire out

He's just saying it wrong. Grevious is stated to be in no condition to fight by his doctor

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Anakin wins low to mid diff.

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The Inquisitor isn't rlly downscaled by anything, and filoni says he's on early tcw ventress' level, so id say he wins

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Toss up

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#28 frozen  Moderator

The Inquisitor isn't rlly downscaled by anything, and filoni says he's on early tcw ventress' level, so id say he wins

Filoni contradicted himself with that when he said that any Jedi master can beat GI.

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@frozen said:
@ieatnettles said:

The Inquisitor isn't rlly downscaled by anything, and filoni says he's on early tcw ventress' level, so id say he wins

Filoni contradicted himself with that when he said that any Jedi master can beat GI.

Not sure then

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Anakin was overwhelming kenobi who is stronger than GI by a mile.

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#32 frozen  Moderator

@frozen: Can you post the quote?

Filoni says the Grand Inquisitor would lose to Rebels Obi Wan, and the reasoning given is simply “he‘s a master“. He then affirms that being a master is what makes someone like Obi Wan significant and beyond the GI‘s threshold. So it’s not specific to Obi Wan, he’s saying that GI would get slapped by Obi Wan simply because he’s a Jedi master. So extrapolated to Jedi masters in general.

Filoni: At the point we are, so many years later, they are so few and far between that I don't think he would follow up every lead. Because one of the things that's muddled the whole operation, in my mind, is kids being born that can use the Force. The Emperor and Vader don't really want them around either. But they're so unnotable, you needed a group of hunters, attack dogs. And so we have an Inquisitor that goes out and hunts these guys down. Now if he was to hunt a guy down, let's say he's somewhere on Tatooine and he runs into Obi Wan Kenobi, probably the Inquisitor won't survive that. But if he did, he would call Vader up and go "You better get out here."

Interviewer: He's a Jedi Master. This isn't nobody.

Dave Filoni: This is a Master. This is somebody significant, right. So I have to believe that, as it went along, Vader got entrusted with more and more important missions, hunting down those stolen data plans. Stuff like that. And the Inquisitor is left to be this kind of hunting dog. He finds you, he analyzes you, even by fighting against them, saber to saber, he's learning about you. Who taught you, where you came from, how old you are. Sometimes what your name is. Because they have all the records and he's meticulously studied them. So, you know, he can break down pretty quickly who Kanan is just by fighting him in a lightsaber fight.

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Grand inquisitor stomps

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#35  Edited By Kaore

@ieatnettles: There's zero way that the GI stomps. Anakin even at this stage is giving fighters like Dooku & Obi-Wan serious competition.

Anakin wins every time.

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@kaore said:

@ieatnettles: There's zero way that the GI stomps. Anakin even at this stage is giving fighters like Dooku & Obi-Wan serious competition.

Anakin wins every time.

Grand inquisitor is shown easily beating barriss

Even if this haa context barriss can't go beyond him as an inquisitor with darkside training (stronger than her Jedi DS version)

Barriss gave Anakin a good fight in s5

S5 Anakin got a lot of growth from aotc

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@kaore said:

@ieatnettles: There's zero way that the GI stomps. Anakin even at this stage is giving fighters like Dooku & Obi-Wan serious competition.

Anakin wins every time.

Grand inquisitor is shown easily beating barriss

Even if this haa context barriss can't go beyond him as an inquisitor with darkside training (stronger than her Jedi DS version)

Barriss gave Anakin a good fight in s5

S5 Anakin got a lot of growth from aotc

Barriss did not give Anakin a Good fight lol. As soon as He gave into his Anger she got stomped and ragdolled.

His plan was to Arrest/take her to the Trial to prove Ahsoka’s innocence.. Had He gone all out and the Plot of the arc wasn’t what it was she would’ve gotten Disarmed or Killed immediately.

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#38 Wolfrazer  Online

I'm not seeing why it's so suddenly impressive the GI ragdolls Offee, just because she fought Anakin. It's not like from what we see, the GI was actually dueling her, so you can't judge his saber skill anyway. But more to that, we still don't have context to it.

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@poedameronsbutt: Agreed, Barriss can't hang with Anakin for long in any serious capacity.

Evading somebody trying to arrest you is much easier than holding them off when they're trying to kill you.

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@ieatnettles: @poedameronsbutt: @wolfrazer: @kaore:

Barriss Offee held her own against Anakin Skywalker, but yes, he was rather dominant, and withholding his full ability. It's a good reminder that Skywalker has a solid advantage over such characters -- recall how Ahsoka Tano taunted Darth Maul, claiming that Skywalker would have finished him relatively quickly. It's not a significant disparity -- it's still a good fight -- but it's decisive. More importantly, Offee also fought Tano, not only matching her, but holding the upper hand. However, this is only impressive because Tano is supposed to be much better than villains like the Grand Inquisitor, so any attempts to mash it all together do not work. If Offee is depicted being humiliated by an Inquisitor, the assumption should be that she is being downgraded as opposed to the Inquisitors being fundamentally redefined.

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#41  Edited By Wolfrazer  Online

@lord_tenebrous: There's also the fact that Kanan, was able to also fight the Grand Inquisitor once he got back into the swing of things and sparred with Ezra. Even the GI noted that he was more impressive than before, now sure in their last fight Kanan didn't exactly outskill him and more or less destroyed his means of fighting. Which come to think of it, if the GI is suppose to be a good duelist, what he did was incredibly stupid from a fighting standpoint. But before all of that, you still had Kanan being able to fight a lot better against him in their next two duels. Also wasn't in noted that the Inquisitor lightsaber design, was to make up for their lack of actual skill?

So then what...now S1 Kanan just suddenly jumped up to TCW Anakin after just briefly sparring with Ezra, able to fight the GI and impress him with his dueling skill?

Either the dueling gaps in Canon are FAR smaller than what they want us to think, or the showrunners really just don't care. But then I'm still of the mind that the GI was retconned into the Grand Inquisitor later on, because I don't see the logical sense of putting the boss to go after a rusty Padawan(S1 Kanan) only to then later send in the lackies against a much better/stronger Kanan and his Padawan. Should have been the other way around if that's the case.

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In Attack of the Clones, we first bear witness to the powerful young man who will become Darth Vader. He is a master swordsman, his fighting style bold and aggressive, treading the thin line between genius and madness; he's surpassed his own mentor, Obi-Wan Kenobi, when it comes to skill with a lightsaber. He's better, and he knows it. He's striving to become the greatest of the Jedi Knights, and he's already almost the best. He's certainly the most gifted. On Geonosis, Skywalker goes head-to-head with Count Dooku -- a brilliant and battle-scarred ex-Jedi Master, the complete swordsman, an unmatched lightsaber fencing stylist, with a unique knowledge of the Force. Moreover, the Count is a Sith Lord, Darth Tyranus, an ultimate master of the dark side of the Force, wielding powers similar to that of Emperor Palpatine from Return of the Jedi. Skywalker holds his own against and genuinely challenges the elder Dark Lord, even though he eventually loses the contest.

The Grand Inquisitor is a clever and sophisticated villain, quite powerful and skillful in an objective sense, but compared to the Sith Lords he is utterly outclassed. They are much more powerful than the Imperial Inquisitors, who are mere hunting dogs, charged with tracking down insignificant Force sensitive targets. The Inquisitor's specialized equipment and knowledge -- his distinctive lightsaber, and intimate familiarity with things pertaining to the Jedi -- compensate for his lack of ability. A target as formidable as Skywalker would necessitate the presence of the current Dark Lord, Darth Vader, which of course is impossible.

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#44  Edited By Eredin12

Might go with GI, but it is good to wait first to see how it goes in show

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I can't see GI ever being written to take Anakin. Not when he's capable of killing GG weeks after AotC.

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#46  Edited By Lord_Tenebrous

@wolfrazer:

I have been meaning to get back to you on this. I've tracked down those old ForceCast Interviews on the Inquisitors, which was rather useful in appreciating their role in Star Wars. Well, outside of Legends, that is.

It helps to regard the Inquisitors as the IG-100 MagnaGuards of the Galactic Empire. These opponents are significant and rare, representing a serious situation, wherein your heroes are in relative danger one way or another. They have what it takes to fight with trained lightsaber duelists and Force wielders. At the same time, it's a given that the MagnaGuards -- and Inquisitors -- are not in the same threat class as the major villains, such as General Grievous, Asajj Ventress, or the Sith Lords, so you don't expect as much. There's a balance to this particular variety of antagonist, in that it's perfectly reasonable for them to be swiftly bested in a fight, yet it's also possible for them to prove troublesome against their superiors. We can all remember instances of a MagnaGuard or Inquisitor getting trounced, or putting up a fight, often against the same characters.

There are marked limitations to Darth Vader's Inquisitorius, however. They aren't free range villains, with powers that have yet to be fully explored. They exist for a specific purpose, and are "locked" below certain thresholds of ability, with no acronym-based asterisk next to the aforementioned limits that might allow fans to sidestep this reality.

So then what...now S1 Kanan just suddenly jumped up to TCW Anakin after just briefly sparring with Ezra, able to fight the GI and impress him with his dueling skill?

Kanan Jarrus and the Inquisitor compliment each other as opposing characters, for they are both formidable yet fundamentally flawed. For the duration of the first season of Star Wars Rebels, Kanan is out-of-practice and lacking confidence in the Force. He does improve, gradually recovering his former skill and strength, and as a result proving more and more of a challenge, as you yourself note:

There's also the fact that Kanan, was able to also fight the Grand Inquisitor once he got back into the swing of things and sparred with Ezra. Even the GI noted that he was more impressive than before, now sure in their last fight Kanan didn't exactly outskill him and more or less destroyed his means of fighting. Which come to think of it, if the GI is suppose to be a good duelist, what he did was incredibly stupid from a fighting standpoint. But before all of that, you still had Kanan being able to fight a lot better against him in their next two duels.

...But even when Kanan Jarrus restores his former ability in the Jedi arts and ways of the Force, at the end of the day he never completed his Jedi training, and so he remains a limited fighter. He does not stack up to a full-fledged Jedi, Knight or Master. Whether in their very first encounter on Stygeon Prime, or in the later duels at Fort Anaxes, Lothal, etc, the balance between the two characters -- in favour of the Inquisitor -- owes as much to Kanan's lack of ability as to the Inquisitor's power:

Dave Filoni: But in this dark time, when the light side is really suffering, he, y'know, is a fairly powerful guy -- especially for someone like Kanan, who kind of lacks his own conviction and belief in his abilities at this point. Uh, if you do that, and you don't believe in yourself, how can you even fight someone like the Inquisitor? So, when he gets Force thrown, he really gets thrown, and that throw has as much to do with Kanan's own lack of belief in himself as it does the Inquisitor pushing him -- y'know, there's not a lot countering the Inquisitor in that fight. We thought it was important to show Kanan really struggling, uh, y'know, almost as if he hadn't really picked up a saber in a very long time -- he would still know certain things he could do with it, but the Inquisitor is gonna just greatly outmatch him.

~ Rebels Force Radio, October 31, 2014

Interviewer: Kanan is often outmatched by the Inquisitor, but does that have more to do with Kanan's limitations, or the Inquisitor's power?

Pablo Hidalgo: Well, I mean, it's obviously a combination of both, but I think what we can't forget about this timeframe is Kanan's level of Jedi training -- he never completed his Jedi training. You get the sense of that if you've read A New Dawn, but that's gonna become more and more apparent as the series progresses.

~ Star Wars Rebels Recon #1.08: Inside "Gathering Forces"

Dave Filoni: Y'know, Tarkin on some level doesn't seem to believe that Obi-Wan is alive in A New Hope, and we know now that Tarkin actually knew Obi-Wan, so that's interesting. So, he has some idea of who he is. I also like that we were able to write in that Tarkin doesn't believe Kanan's a Jedi, because Tarkin actually knew full-fledged Jedi Knights and Masters, so he's like, "You're not what you're pretending to be." So, y'know, it's interesting that we were able these types of little insights to these classic characters.

~ Rebels Force Radio, July 3, 2015

It's not that the Inquisitor is just so powerful. He is more powerful than those who are lacking in power, especially in an era where the galaxy is so dark. And, after their first battle, he does consistently find a challenge in Kanan Jarrus, even when the former Jedi was wounded and worn out from extensive torture:

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Kanan Jarrus probably isn't exactly as capable as the Grand Inquisitor, when you really get down to it. As you say, ultimately, he didn't actually overpower or outfight the Inquisitor -- he just exploited a vulnerability in his opponent's equipment, which was a rather a foolish move for a villain who's supposed to be quite clever and well-studied.

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He does prove himself a most worthy match, win or lose, and though the combat is initially back-and-forth, Kanan eventually presses the Inquisitor down the length of the hyperdrive chamber's walkways, right up to the edge. Granted, Kanan relied on the blaster function of his extra weapon in order to achieve most of his headway, and the Inquisitor was getting winded. Under normal circumstances, they could very well be even:

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The takeaway here would be that it's not inconsistent or out-of-character for the Inquisitor to be challenged by Kanan Jarrus, because the Inquisitor was only the stronger of the two to begin with because of Jarrus' combination of doubt, atrophy, and unfinished training. As Jarrus strengthens his faith in the Force and regains his Jedi skills, he presents more and more of a match for the Inquisitor, who is strongest when his opponents are comparatively weak.

But then I'm still of the mind that the GI was retconned into the Grand Inquisitor later on, because I don't see the logical sense of putting the boss to go after a rusty Padawan(S1 Kanan) only to then later send in the lackies against a much better/stronger Kanan and his Padawan. Should have been the other way around if that's the case.

It would seem to be the case that, when the first season of Star Wars Rebels was being written, they had in mind just one villain serving as an Inquisitor. He's introduced and described, quite simply, as the Inquisitor. That there were more Inquisitors, and that he was the chief of their order, was evidently a later development. In both cases, he remains the Inquisitor.

Nevertheless, the Inquisitor was killed at the end of the first season because they didn't want to make him a mustache-twirling fist-shaking reoccurring villain. The rebels dealt some noteworthy damage to the Galactic Empire under his watch, and so if he survived -- which he could have -- his superiors would have executed him for that failure, no matter how tough and cunning he is normally. It is more-so out of respect for his character that the writers decided to kill him so soon. In killing the Inquisitor, the heroes have accomplished something very real, but in the process upped the ante in a very bad way, because now they've gained the attention of something far worse -- and it's not the other Inquisitors:

Interviewer: Well, uh, y'know, you sort of gave us one character in a big way, and took away another character in that finale, and, uh, at least we think this is the case. Y'know, you want to, I think, great lengths to create and really make a very compelling villain in the Inquisitor -- very mysterious -- and, uh, he just ate up the scenery every time he was on. I, actually, both him and Kallus are just so well done, I--but then you kill him! Or at least we think so... so, um, is he your Darth Maul? Are you gonna be putting, are you gonna be like George [Lucas], and all of a sudden you're like, "Yeah, I really shouldn't have killed that guy -- he was actually pretty cool," um, or, y'know, was this sort of his fate from the beginning?

Dave Filoni: Well, yeah, it's kind of his fate from the beginning. Um, Jason [Isaacs] is brilliant as the Inquisitor, and he gives such dimension to that character, but I felt pretty strongly -- and I know that Greg [Weisman] and Simon [Kinberg] did too -- that we're really trying to avoid any type of, uh, feeling that this show is, y'know, too light, or just for kids. I mean, it's for kids, of course, but I still want it to have dimension like Star Wars did. I still want it to be something everybody can watch, and if the Inquisitor survives too long, I, we felt he becomes a little bit more of a cartoon villain, that you escape every week...

Interviewer: "I'll get you next time!"

Dave Filoni:Yeah, you're really fighting that, and, um, I thought it makes a more definitive statement that they can overcome this obstacle in a real way with consequences -- but then they'll be faced with another, y'know, obstacle. And it was the same thing when Tarkin came in: when Tarkin came in, um, y'know, in the early drafts of the script, uh, Tarkin didn't arrive via shuttle -- he entered into an office room -- he did not terminate Aresko and Grint, um, and, I got together with Kiri Hart, and we were talking about it, and I was saying that, y'know, she and I both agreed that, if you're a kid watching this show, you don't understand why this old guy comes in here and has all this authority. So, we had to draw a line and say that when Tarkin enters the show, it's a dynamically different kind of villain than you've experienced up to this point. Up until this point, you've had Aresko and Grint, who are, y'know, lower-level villains who are doing their job, and can probably handle a lot of low-life scum in Star Wars, but nothing too serious; and Kallus comes in and raises the bar, and the Inquisitor's floating around, but this is the guy who comes in when everybody else has screwed up, and now he's wasting his time, he feels, to be here dealing with this low-level problem -- but, there might be a Jedi involved, and that's worth his time. But we wanted to make him feel like someone that was on a much more evil level than the villains we had shown up to that point -- even the Inquisitor -- 'cause that was something that was fascinating, because every kid that knows the original trilogy knows that Tarkin had rank over Vader, which made Tarkin really fascinating, uh, in A New Hope, at least for me as a kid. So, when he came in, y'know, we redid it so that he has this grand arrival -- as someone of his stature should within the Empire -- and then he immediately takes out, y'know, kind of the two villains that were ineffective, and threatens the others; he basically threatens everybody that's a villain on the show in the first two minutes he arrives, and there's no, uh, no problem making the distinction that this guy's in charge.

~ Rebels Force Radio, March 13, 2015

Interviewer: As much as it’s easy to keep talking about Ahsoka, there are so many other things to talk about. You did this big villain shift here at the end, which really surprised me. You’ve taken out what had been the main villain and a big part of the imagery of the show -- while bringing in someone not too shabby to replace him.

Dave Filoni: Second string isn’t too bad here with the Empire.

Interviewer: How did you decide you wanted to do that pretty early in the show’s run? I think that’s what really surprised me the most was this is only the end of Season 1.

Dave Filoni: I think it just speaks to... We always want there to be consequences and that goes for the villains. We saw that a little bit with Aresko and Grint when Tarkin showed up and their brand of kind of carelessness is dispatched. We discussed the Inquisitor. It was painful because Jason [Isaacs] is so brilliant playing him, but it was a pivotal moment in the season and everything’s going to change. Season 1 is like A New Hope. Season 2 becomes more like Empire Strikes Back for our heroes. They’re starting to pass through this new part of their journey and things become ratcheted up, more exciting, more adventure; but darker, more dangerous like you would expect. Having the Inquisitor hang on, after such a failure, having captured this Jedi and let him go -- It’s really a problem for the Inquisitor because he knows that Vader and the Emperor will not suffer this failure. He knows what they could do to him is, to him, worse than death. That’s a critical difference between an inquisitor and a full fledged Sith. A Sith sees death as an absolute. They’ll do anything they can to avoid it because there’s nothing for them after death and they know this. That’s why the Emperor is so obsessed with trying to prolong his life, to find immortality -- because if he dies, he loses all his power. He can’t see a way to be part of the eternal existence of things and just selflessly be a part of it like Obi-Wan can and like Yoda can. They’re opposites.

An Inquisitor though, he says, there are some things far more frightening than death, which is an interesting thing for him that I’ll let people puzzle over what it means. It’s not accidental, the way he perishes. And he does perish. This isn’t me being sneaky or clever, having him fall off screen. I know that once Maul got cut in half, pretty much everyone was like, “He could be alive!” But I don’t see that happening. We felt it would have a big impact, obviously not just for the villains, but for Kanan to have this happen in front of his eyes. There’s a moment where he thinks he’s lost his main adversary in the Inquisitor and he’s lost Ezra, he believes, so there he’s kind of alone in all this chaos -- the very symbol of a Jedi at that point for how things have gone for them. It was a dramatic moment and we have, I think, in some ways some better things in store for Season 2 that could play off of that moment.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/05/star-wars-rebels-co-creator-on-season-1s-big-death-and-big-return-and-where-season-2-will-go

It isn't an indictment of the Grand Inquisitor for the other Inquisitors to challenge Kanan Jarrus in the next season, because Jarrus is not much better than he was in the first season -- to the contrary, he is more or less on the same level. As Dave Filoni himself put it, Kanan -- and his apprentice, Ezra Bridger -- maybe moved up from, say, level three to level four:

"Our guys are like level three, maybe they got to level four this season."

https://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/05/star-wars-rebels-co-creator-on-season-1s-big-death-and-big-return-and-where-season-2-will-go

At the start of season one, Kanan Jarrus is a shadow of his former self -- at which point the Grand Inquisitor "greatly outmatchs him," in the words of Dave Filoni -- but he puts in the work and more or less regain his abilities over the course of the next episodes, and his improvement, his restoration, can be seen in his rematches with the Inquisitor. He's about as good as he's going to be the moment he starts legitimately contending with the Grand Inquisitor. We're not dealing with -- nor would we ever see -- a far stronger Kanan who has truly moved well beyond opponents like the Inquisitors (besides, of course, those moments in which he truly opens up to the Force, such as his defeat of Lord Maul and fatal self-sacrifice).

The character of Kanan Jarrus is that of an incomplete Jedi. He never finished his training, and this only becomes more apparent as the series progresses. He overcomes this source of insecurity through spiritual growth -- eventually being Knighted -- but he remains inferior to a full-fledged Jedi, whether in season one as he fights the Grand Inquisitor, or in season two where he fights several more Inquisitors. Perhaps in season three he achieves a greater enlightment that could transcend his typical limitations, but as far as seasons one and two -- when he is an active combatant, coming up against the Imperial Inquisitorius -- he's not quite a proper Jedi. He lacks the skill, the experience, the wisdom, the power, and the presence of a standard Jedi Knight.

Interviewer: Kanan is often outmatched by the Inquisitor, but does that have more to do with Kanan's limitations, or the Inquisitor's power?

Pablo Hidalgo: Well, I mean, it's obviously a combination of both, but I think what we can't forget about this timeframe is Kanan's level of Jedi training -- he never completed his Jedi training. You get the sense of that if you've read A New Dawn, but that's gonna become more and more apparent as the series progresses.

~ Star Wars Rebels Recon #1.08: Inside "Gathering Forces"

Dave Filoni: Y'know, Tarkin on some level doesn't seem to believe that Obi-Wan is alive in A New Hope, and we know now that Tarkin actually knew Obi-Wan, so that's interesting. So, he has some idea of who he is. I also like that we were able to write in that Tarkin doesn't believe Kanan's a Jedi, because Tarkin actually knew full-fledged Jedi Knights and Masters, so he's like, "You're not what you're pretending to be." So, y'know, it's interesting that we were able these types of little insights to these classic characters.

~ Rebels Force Radio, July 3, 2015

Dave Filoni: We always knew there was going to be a manifestation of this connection to these creatures, and that Ezra was going to summon a bigger creature, a mama version. But I really wanted to push the tension into this almost Akira-like moment, where he seems not himself, and is in a possessed state. It's an important moment which demonstrates his connection to the Living Force. Ezra is open to the idea that life is connected in a way that he doesn't understand yet. You have to be careful with that connection. What he's doing in that moment is active. He is guiding and directing the Force which in this case comes out of his fear and anger at the Inquisitor. The result is he brings up something that he doesn't have control over. That's why Kanan has the discussion with Ezra afterward and he brings up the dark side. You see where Kanan has maybe made a misstep. Ezra is advancing faster than Kanan would have thought possible because Kanan doesn’t have past experience teaching to compare it to having never become a Jedi Knight himself.

https://www.starwars.com/news/interview-dave-filoni-on-star-wars-rebels-part-2

StarWars.com: The blinding of Kanan is really a shocking moment in an episode full of shocking moments. When did you decide you wanted to do that? And I’m wondering if it was debated, because a character change like that is going to impact a lot of things. I think it’s going to impact how you tell stories in the future and how you approach the character, because, in theory, he’s not going to be able to do things like he used to be able to do them.

Dave Filoni: It’s interesting. We had decided that we were going to do something dramatic with Kanan very early on in the season.

Kanan’s an incomplete Jedi. As much as we have to track Ezra’s ascension, we have to parallel Kanan’s own wisdom and what he’s learning. Kanan’s hesitations this year, his reluctance to embrace the rebellion, and his unwillingness to commit to what they could gain out of the Temple all point to him not embracing leadership like he should. He doesn’t trust himself enough yet.

So, the blinding of Kanan really is symbolic in that he can’t see what the right thing to do is. He can’t see what he has to offer Ezra. It’s a constant problem for Kanan, so we take that one ability away. It has affected our storytelling, but not in the ways that people would think. There’s a lot of thought that’s gone into what does it mean for him to be blind and how he would react to that. People think, “Oh, but the Force will allow him to do things.” The Force is not a super power. It doesn’t work that way. It’s a matter of what you’re willing to believe. I think the story that we tell with Kanan and his blindness is simple -- you are as limited as you allow yourself to be. You’re going to be able to see if you believe you can see and this can open up new things you couldn’t see before. There’s an important character that Kanan will meet in Season Three that is going to help change his perception.

https://www.starwars.com/news/fates-fulfilled-dave-filoni-reflects-on-star-wars-rebels-season-two-part-2

It ought therefore to be our expectation that Kanan Jarrus would continue to be challenged by the Imperial Inquisitorius. Now, since the season one finale depicts him as a seeming equal of the Grand Inquisitor, it's reasonable to think that Jarrus should be able to handle any of the other Inquisitors in lightsaber combat. This is more or less that we see in season two; the Fifth Brother always presses him hard -- and has overpowered him with the Force -- but Kanan consistently withstands and knocks him away blade-to-blade. The Seventh Sister has gotten the better of Kanan once, but to be fair, he as a character is not allowed to take her out -- she's his wife in reality, which is an inside joke for the creative team. The Eighth Brother is harder to say, as he dispenses with Ezra Bridger with greater efficiency than either the Fifth Brother or Seventh Sister, and initially holds the upper hand over Kanan, driving him back and scoring several blows -- several of which we hear off-screen, as Kanan shouts in pain. Nevertheless, eventually, Kanan is depicted as having turned the tide, forcing the Eight Brother back and back. He even manages to damage his opponent's weapon, although it's unclear in this case whether he took the Eighth Brother off-balance, who was last seen reeling away from Lord Maul's attack. Either way, it's plausible that Kanan could take out the Eighth Brother in a duel:

Dave Filoni: So you can picture them in some evil chamber where they're all referring to each other as "brother" and "sister" and "Fifth Brother," "Seventh Sister," "Sixth Sister." You know, I don't know -- this is just full disclosure -- does that mean that she's the seventh of seven women, or does that mean she's seventh in the overall hierarchy? Is there also a Seventh Brother? Reasonable, reasonable... perhaps not true. [Laughs] And we'll have to wait and see. It is fun to have Sarah [Michelle Gellar]. I mean, this is just born out of just wanting her to have a chance to chop Freddie's head off, so Sarah would only do it as long as I promised...

Interviewer: [Laughs] So you're saying that's what happens, right?

Dave Filoni: I promised that I wouldn't let Freddie eliminate her. That was the deal. So I guess that's the only thing you can count on. Whatever happens to the Seventh Sister, it's not going to be Kanan that deals the blow. So, hey, that may be one of the clearest answers I've ever given you! Spoiler!

Interviewer: [Laughs] Yeah! "She will not be killed by Kanan."

Dave Filoni: Yes. There you go!

https://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/28/star-wars-rebels-dave-filoni-talks-inquisitors-ahsoka-and-rex-and-where-the-jedi-characters-are-during-the-movies

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If we are to err on the side of caution, the most accurate representation as to how Kanan Jarrus normally compares to the Grand Inquisitor in combat would be their duel on Lothal. The Inquisitor has the upper hand in that he's driving Jarrus back, keeping his opponent on the defensive both with lightsaber skill and sheer physical strength, eventually ending the fight by pinning Jarrus with the power of the Force -- all the same, Kanan holds his own, countering with a successful kick, and even working his way out from having been backed up against a wall:

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Thus, Kanan Jarrus is able to challenge the Grand Inquisitor, though he eventually loses. It is a similar situation with the Seventh Sister in regards to physical combat, and likewise with the Fifth Brother, only in terms of dominating use of the Force. But, Jarrus presents himself a tough match for any of these Inquisitors -- consistently, he could probably best any of them, except perhaps the chief Inquisitor -- and trains up Ezra Bridger to their level as well. Bridger, however, is not a match for Padawan Anakin Skywalker, who's much better trained -- and therefore, much more than a match for the Inquisitors -- which is reflected in their ability to handle the battle droids of the Separatist military:

Dave Filoni: Having worked in the prequel era for a long time, I know it really well. It was really interesting to see Kanan, Ezra, and Zeb dealing with it and, frankly, how dangerous some of it was. While the droids weren’t much of a match for Anakin Skywalker, they’re more than a match for someone like Ezra who’s not as well-trained. So, it gave a great perspective into what they’re capable of, too.

https://www.starwars.com/news/dave-filoni-interview-star-wars-rebels-season-three

Also wasn't in noted that the Inquisitor lightsaber design, was to make up for their lack of actual skill?

You are correct. All villains, to an extent, are vicious and ruthless, doing whatever they need to do to win, including fighting dirty against their superiors -- General Grievous in Star Wars: The Clone Wars is a good example -- and this is no less the case with the Imperial Inquisitorius. I again emphasize the fact that the characters of Kanan Jarrus and the Inquisitor compliment each other, for it's the same with Kanan's fighting style, in that both he and the Inquisitors have a certain way of fighting that speaks to their comparatively inferior abilities.

The Inquisitor -- he is quite intelligent and somewhat elegant, but not as powerful as you might think. While he is a combatant, he is not so strength or skill-oriented as Darth Vader; the Inquisitor, rather, is an intellectual, an academic, a strategist, prioritizing knowledge as a means of power. He is an investigator, a representative of the Imperial Inquisition, charged with scrutinizing reports that may lead to an individual with a tangible connection to the Force. His role is to determine the nature of this individual, and the threat he may or may not pose; is this but an amatuer who got his hands on a lightsaber, or just an especially skilled bounty hunter? Is there actually a Jedi to account for? And if there is, what sort of Jedi is this, how old is he, how did he survive, who taught him, and is he of any significance? To fulfill this duty, the Inquisitor has meticulously studied the fallen Jedi Order's records -- he is remarkably knowledgeable, able to quickly deduce much about his targets simply by fighting them for a bit; and once so informed, he is able to dissect and analyze his subjects, determining how best to handle them and their potential associates. He is very much a modern hunter, always backed by the Galactic Empire's innumerable resources, always retaining the advantage of foreknowledge, preparation, position, and surprise, as well as operating with specialized equipment. The lightsaber of an Inquisitor is designed for intimidation and fear, to cheat and compensate for abilities its wielder lacks, and to enable dishonorable tactics in combat. The Inquisitor is not nearly as skilled or powerful as Darth Maul or Darth Vader. The majority of opponents the Inquisitor will encounter are going to be untrained Force-sensitive children, amatuers who don't really know how to use a lightsaber, or Jedi younglings and Padawans who managed to escape the Galactic Empire. Against these opponents -- nobodies, essentially -- the Inquisitor can win. If, however, the Inquisitor encounters a Jedi of actual significance -- such as Ahsoka Tano, or Obi-Wan Kenobi, or somebody with ties to them -- he's going to back down, flee, and call in Darth Vader. He can handle insignificant targets, like novices and younglings, but if you pit him against, say, a member of the Jedi High Council, or a Master, the Inquisitor is in a lot more trouble, and probably won't make it out alive. Characters of that stature -- like Mace Windu -- are far, far, far beyond the Inquisitor. This villain is a specialist, a greater threat than standard Imperial officers, or the Security Bureau agents, but he's still considered an inferior minion who can lose to the lower level heroes here and there, so that the real villains can remain unblemished:

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~ Star Wars Insider #168

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~ Star Wars Insider #153

Dave Filoni: But it was reasonable to believe that, looking at a galaxy, there were 10,000 Jedi in The Clone Wars. That number's been diminished. How do you find them? Where do you find them? I'm sure Vader is involved in hunting down Jedi all the time. I'm sure that right after the Clone War, when the remnants are very visible and the Jedi are all trying to figure out what happened, that he was luring them into traps and wiping them out several at a time.

At the point we are, so many years later, they are so few and far between that I don't think he would follow up every lead. Because one of the things that's muddled the whole operation, in my mind, is kids being born that can use the Force. The Emperor and Vader don't really want them around either. But they're so unnotable, you needed a group of hunters, attack dogs. And so we have an Inquisitor that goes out and hunts these guys down. Now if he was to hunt a guy down, let's say he's somewhere on Tatooine and he runs into Obi Wan Kenobi, probably the Inquisitor won't survive that. But if he did, he would call Vader up and go "You better get out here."

Interviewer: He's a Jedi Master. This isn't nobody.

Dave Filoni: This is a Master. This is somebody significant, right. So I have to believe that, as it went along, Vader got entrusted with more and more important missions, hunting down those stolen data plans. Stuff like that. And the Inquisitor is left to be this kind of hunting dog. He finds you, he analyzes you, even by fighting against them, saber to saber, he's learning about you. Who taught you, where you came from, how old you are. Sometimes what your name is. Because they have all the records and he's meticulously studied them. So, you know, he can break down pretty quickly who Kanan is just by fighting him in a lightsaber fight.

https://www.slashfilm.com/533176/star-wars-rebels-interview-dave-filoni/

"The lightsaber for the Inquisitor is like a cheat-mode lightsaber -- it does a lot of things that Maul could do on his own. To have a weapon that cheats those abilities, and makes up for a lack of ability in some ways, y'know, is very, uh, representative of who he is."

~ Dave Filoni

Interviewer: Y'know, since we're talking about villains, uh, the Inquisitor sort of made his, his, uh, debut in this week's episode -- which by the way is kind of hard to talk about, because the way that, y'know, it's being released on the app, and then on the, on the TV broadcast, but in terms of what my ITunes downloads are, uh, this was the last episode, uh, "Rise of the Old Masters" -- and I know that there's been some conversation online, and chatter about you do have this, this wonderful pallet of these great villains you have living in the world now, are in the timeline of Darth Vader, and Grand Moff Tarkin, and Palpatine... why, why the need to create someone new?

Dave Filoni: Well, I think all in time, right? I mean, everything has a place and a time, and I think you always have to be careful -- yes, we have these iconic villains, but it's so dangerous, right, in a TV series, when you involve characters like that, and when you have a situation where you want to see the heroes being victorious a lot, that you degrade the villains too much, y'know... and I just, I didn't want it to be a situation where, y'know, Vader's shaking his fist as Kanan and Ezra are getting away; I just didn't really like that concept -- none of us did -- even with Tarkin; y'know, he's nothing to laugh at, he's a very serious character, he's very charged, and I just, it just made sense to us, to the group of storytellers, that our guys are so small-scale that, y'know, even if they do something like what they do -- they're stealing some weapons crates, and they're trading some of it for money, and they're trading food supplies to people that are, like, poor, and have nothing -- and okay, so there's different areas of the Empire to take note of that. And the first is, Kallus gets called in because he's Security Bureau, and there's been a theft, and he's investigating that. Well, his investigation turns up a guy with a lightsaber... and you have to understand that, like, the idea that somebody has a lightsaber--ranging to, y'know, from Obi-Wan Kenobi in the cantina; people see that, and then they just go back to their drinks, and I always think, like, yeah, there's a bunch of people that are like, "Oh, look: somebody else got a hold of one of those things -- they'll probably cut their arm off later." They don't seem to regard much that he might be a Jedi, per se. Some people, maybe... well, obviously Garindan later likes turning them in for money, but, y'know, there must have been some kind of bounty: "If you see somebody with a lightsaber, turn them in." But the idea that Jedi are around, and most people have never even seen them -- it's kind of a far flung thing. So, the Inquisitor would come in and investigate; "Okay, I saw a lightsaber, this guy seemed to use the Force to me." I'm not sure Kallus even would know what that is if he saw it, right? And the Inquisitor is kind of gonna assess, um, what is the threat level here? Is this just a guy that got a lightsaber? Is he a bounty hunter, so he's kind of good at it -- like Pre Vizsla was good at it, but he wasn't a Jedi -- right? So, they're gonna break down who these people are. The Inquisitor will quickly determine kind of, "Well, I think this guy might be a Jedi, 'cause he's fighting with a certain lightsaber technique." So that's unique -- that's the difference: he's not just swinging it, he's got some kind of skill with it; and the Inquisitor, y'know, assesses this guy and tries to figure out if he really is a Jedi, and starts to figure out, where did he come from? How did he survive? Who taught him? Are there any links that would go back to people possibly like Obi-Wan Kenobi? If he gets a feeling that this guy is anything of significance, that could lead to a greater catch like Obi-Wan Kenobi, he's gonna get on the hologram and call Darth Vader, and say, "Hey, guess what I've discovered..." And you can imagine that, y'know, in the Star Wars hierarchy of threats, that there are certain characters like Yoda, or Obi-Wan Kenobi -- I would personally put Ahsoka there 'cause she was Anakin's student -- that would be a high interest level for someone like Darth Vader to say, "I want these people found, and I want them destroyed." And, uh, so the Inquisitor is out there trying to sus this out, and figure out, uh, y'know, what's the threat level? And so I think it works for us on a story level for a hierarchy within the Empire, and it also allows me not to kind of, like, degrade a character like Vader, and make him just running around chasing a ship like The Ghost, which is a little all too familiar to chasing the Falcon; y'know, it let us have our own villain for our own time, and not disrupt the greater, uh, the greater things that are going on in the galaxy -- but if our guys cause enough trouble, y'know, if, if things went in a certain direction, then, y'know, other characters might be called in. So, you never deal in absolutes to say these things are never gonna happen, I, I would have thought I would never see Darth Maul again, uh, in Star Wars: Clone Wars, that that would never happen -- and then I put him back together, right, and he became a really interesting character for us.

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Interviewer: Right, but something that you said on the, the Rebels Recon of StarWars.com, uh, was interesting: you called, uh, the Inquisitor's lightsaber a cheat. Can you talk a little bit about that? Because I was, y'know, as I'm watching the episode, I'm like, "Is he a Force user? Is he a Force user?" Then we see the Force push -- like, okay, he's a Force user, he's just not adept with a lightsaber... but you still called what he's doing, a bit, uh, of a cheat.

Dave Filoni: Yeah, I always think a villain to some degree is cheating, um, because they don't have rules -- they'll do whatever it takes to win. Um, I always thought of Grievous that way, right? He could use a lightsaber but, y'know, to kill Nahdar, he'll pull out a gun and just shoot Nahdar -- he doesn't care; uh, where a Jedi is like a more classic Samurai who's gonna fight with technique, and with honour. Well, an Inquisitor lightsaber, y'know, it spins, and it's got kind of these multi-functions, and it's all about intimidation, fear, and, and, y'know, you throw it, which is not the most honourable seeming thing -- throwing a sword at someone is never really looked upon highly -- um, and that's why I call it a cheat. It, it's, it's a, it's a simple way to do something that Maul actually does with far greater skill -- spinning and twirling, and this guy can just kind of stand there in the middle of a helicopter blade; and so it's the mechanical element of it to me that says this guy isn't as powerful as you think. But, y'know, to the great many that *he* would encounter that might've picked up a lightsaber -- or been like, say, a youngling or a Padawan that survived -- he would be more than a match for any of them. For a member of the Jedi Council, y'know, if they survived, I think that, uh, the Inquisitor would be a lot harder pressed in that battle... y'know, like I would say that someone like Mace Windu is far, far, far above the Inquisitor that we see on Star Wars Rebels. But in this dark time, when the light side is really suffering, he, y'know, is a fairly powerful guy -- especially for someone like Kanan, who kind of lacks his own conviction and belief in his abilities at this point. Uh, if you do that, and you don't believe in yourself, how can you even fight someone like the Inquisitor? So, when he gets Force thrown, he really gets thrown, and that throw has as much to do with Kanan's own lack of belief in himself as it does the Inquisitor pushing him -- y'know, there's not a lot countering the Inquisitor in that fight. We thought it was important to show Kanan really struggling, uh, y'know, almost as if he hadn't really picked up a saber in a very long time -- he would still know certain things he could do with it, but the Inquisitor is gonna just greatly outmatch him.

~ Rebels Force Radio, October 31, 2014

As I said, the situation is little different with Kanan Jarrus. Overall, he is considered a minor threat, unworthy of the attention of the main villains. When he first encounters the Inquisitor, he's really out of practice, and so while he can still fight, he's quite outmatched. Years ago, he was a traditionally trained Jedi Padawan, which means he should be better equipped for a lightsaber fight, but at that point in time it'd been too long since last he engaged in combat -- that, coupled with his lack of confidence and belief, meant that there wasn't really much for the Inquisitor to deal with. Yet, even the skillset Kanan is labouring to restore is nowhere near so accomplished as that of, say, Luminara Unduli; he doesn't measure up to a legitimate Jedi Knight or Master, let alone a member of the High Council. His character overview features a fighting style that is deliberately more grounded and less spectacular than that of the proper Jedi, closer to the original trilogy choreography -- not because he's comparable to the original trilogy's fighters, but to reflect his limitations, the fact that he doesn't actually know as much as he should, and never did. He's no Obi-Wan Kenobi. He and his associates are no challenge for Darth Vader whatsoever, and are far less progressed than Ahsoka Tano:

Dave Filoni: So all the Jedi or all the Force wielders are kind of hidden now. You know, Kanan breaks his lightsaber a part and wears it out sometimes, but you think it's more like a Droid caller or something like that. You don't think it's a lightsaber. Because as soon Obi Wan turns his lightsaber on in the Cantina, there are people reporting it like "Yeah, there's a bounty on these guys." So I think it's just all about how we reveal Kanan. It's very different from Luke. I mean, on a basic level at this point he's so much better trained than Luke could ever be. It's just an interesting take on what are all these other people that have the Force doing? And how do we not have that interfere with the blinding light, the New Hope that Luke Skywalker becomes? Luke's mission in the Force is very specific. Learn to be selfless. Selfless enough to save your Father. To realize that you can forgive and redeem. And that's a bit different than where we're going with Ezra and Kanan for sure.

https://www.slashfilm.com/533176/star-wars-rebels-interview-dave-filoni/

But in this dark time, when the light side is really suffering, he, y'know, is a fairly powerful guy -- especially for someone like Kanan, who kind of lacks his own conviction and belief in his abilities at this point. Uh, if you do that, and you don't believe in yourself, how can you even fight someone like the Inquisitor? So, when he gets Force thrown, he really gets thrown, and that throw has as much to do with Kanan's own lack of belief in himself as it does the Inquisitor pushing him -- y'know, there's not a lot countering the Inquisitor in that fight. We thought it was important to show Kanan really struggling, uh, y'know, almost as if he hadn't really picked up a saber in a very long time -- he would still know certain things he could do with it, but the Inquisitor is gonna just greatly outmatch him.

~ Rebels Force Radio, October 31, 2014

Dave Filoni: Y'know, Tarkin on some level doesn't seem to believe that Obi-Wan is alive in A New Hope, and we know now that Tarkin actually knew Obi-Wan, so that's interesting. So, he has some idea of who he is. I also like that we were able to write in that Tarkin doesn't believe Kanan's a Jedi, because Tarkin actually knew full-fledged Jedi Knights and Masters, so he's like, "You're not what you're pretending to be." So, y'know, it's interesting that we were able these types of little insights to these classic characters.

~ Rebels Force Radio, July 3, 2015

Interviewer: Well, let's talk about Kanan for a minute here too, because, uh, I would imagine that, that, that, uh, telling this character's story, especially after coming out of the, the Clone Wars, where the, we're really talking about the Jedi in some cases at their peak -- um, though, y'know, maybe in a galaxy wide perspective perhaps not, but still -- there has to be some restraint that you're using, I guess, with, uh, with how you move Kanan, how he fights, and, and how, y'know, how much skill he actually shows...

Dave Filoni: Yeah, it's really challenging, but, but I think what's really interesting about it is: no, I don't want someone that can, y'know, leap all around, and vault, and acrobats -- and, y'know, certainly that wasn't really a trait of, uh, y'know Luke, or even not so much Vader, y'know, in the classic trilogy; it's something you kind of more imagine what's gonna happen at some point as a kid, but it wasn't really the vocabulary of lightsaber fighting, and I think that's what makes him a really interesting character -- at least for me, creatively -- is to say, y'know, he obviously, kind of, in order to survive, abandoned a lot of who he was; and now, for whatever reason, logical or not, he's been compelled -- in large part by Hera -- to take on this, uh, student, and what 106 is really kind of exploring is alright, well, how ready is this guy to do that? How much does he know? And, y'know, it's not so out of the box, uh, he's not like an Obi-Wan Kenobi, right? He, well, I like the scene where he -- Ezra -- asks about, "Do or, do not -- there is no try." So, what you really learn about Kanan is that, well he's heard that, right? We've all heard that, but did he ever really sit back and think about what it means, and how you apply that? it's not really until the end of the episode that he actually understands what it means, 'cause he's had to come face to face with this struggle, and I think that that made him, y'know, really interesting, and, uh, that's what we really want to go after.

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Interviewer: And, y'know, clearly Hera is encouraging Kanan to take the role of mentor, to become a teacher to, uh, Ezra... she recognizes the Force potential in him -- and Kanan does too, but Kanan is so reluctant that he wants to pass off Ezra to Luminara in the episode, um, "Rise of the Old Masters." Now my question is, did Kanan know Luminara? And what was the deal with that weird hologram sequence with the, the casket in the, in the prison cell? I, I just, I wasn't really sure I was getting the gist of what was happening there...

Dave Filoni:Well, Kanan says that he knew Luminara, but I wouldn't say he knew her well. Uh, he met her once or twice, but, y'know, there are many Jedi in the Temple, and he would have been rather young -- but he would know who she is because at a certain point she's a member on the Council, I believe. So, he knows of her; she's obviously renowned enough for him to know of her, and that she's a far more accomplished Jedi than he ever was.

~ Rebels Force Radio, October 31, 2014

Interviewer: With the confirmation of the additions of Ahsako Tano and Rex, how much will we see of them in season 2?

Dave Filoni: Their story had to serve the story of Rebels. I couldn’t just haphazardly bring them in because I like them. I love the characters Ahsoka and Rex. It was hard to let them go after telling their stories. But it had to be purposeful... Ahsoka really helped serve the story as far as if you wanna have Vader in Rebels, you can’t just bring him into it because he’s going to crush them. They don’t stand a chance. Ahsoka has a personal connection to Anakin Skywalker that we believe people are interested in. Once that side of the story emerges, what’s Vader like before realizes his son is alive, so that became important. Plus she is a Force wielder that is way more progressed than Kanan.

https://geeksofdoom.com/2015/10/09/interview-star-wars-rebels-dave-filoni

Interviewer: He’s not threatened either. Not in crisis.

Filoni: With our Vader, the rebels on our show are just specks. They are a troublesome thing that he’s been brought in to deal with. What changes is, he realizes there’s some connection between Ahsoka Tano and these rebels, and that becomes, now, a prize worthy of a long setup in story.

https://ew.com/article/2015/10/14/star-wars-rebels-darth-vader-2/

Interviewer: That would be something! But you need to keep Tarkin and Vader as credible threats and the whole idea is that Tarkin came in to fix a mess. Is that interesting for you guys on a writing level, to make sure there is that proper back and forth and both sides kind of get their due, going forward?

Dave Filoni: It’s a challenge. Vader is a very big challenge because you don’t want to do anything to interrupt him as a character. I’ve always felt that when you think of Darth Vader, there isn’t anything about his character that’s remorseful or would be anything sympathetic. It’s not until he discovers the name Luke Skywalker and that his son is alive, that I think you start to see a shift in him. His first shift is really a selfish one because “We can rule the galaxy as father and son,” right? Up until that point, he’s really just consumed by his own anger, hatred, his grief, what he believes happened, at least what the Emperor has made him believe happened, and he’s suffocated by that. It’s tricky. I’ve said it in interviews - I don’t think our Rebels are a match for him, on any level. Our guys are like level three, maybe they got to level four this season. What’s Vader, like level 80? They’re not even rolling the same number of dice, for God’s sake. It’s not even close here. So it’s a challenge to write believable scenes, mainly from our heroes’ side. that you believe they could have any success in this next season because there are some very heavy hitters that have been brought in to deal with them.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/05/star-wars-rebels-co-creator-on-season-1s-big-death-and-big-return-and-where-season-2-will-go

Dave Filoni: There’s much more evil in Tarkin. When Tarkin fails by the end of the season -- not really through his own fault -- he brings in the real heavy: Darth Vader. That’s very troubling for Season Two. It’s important to note that we’re not telling Darth Vader's story. What Vader represents to me in Rebels is the ultimate manifestation of your fear, and of your inability to move forward. They are not going to be able to defeat Darth Vader. This is an immovable object. The easiest way to explain it is, our heroes are like level five characters and Vader’s level 50. [Laughs] It's not going to take much for him to do them in.

https://www.starwars.com/news/interview-dave-filoni-on-star-wars-rebels-part-3

Kanan Jarrus is not nearly as capable as Ahsoka Tano, Obi-Wan Kenobi, or Luminara Unduli. The Inquisitor is not nearly as formidable as Darth Maul, Darth Vader, or the Emperor. Jarrus is vastly outclassed against Lord Vader, just as the Inquisitor is astronomically out of his league against Mace Windu. And likewise with Kanan's apprentice, Ezra Bridger, and the Grand Inquisitor's subordinates, such as the Third Sister, Fourth Sister, Fifth Brother, Seventh Sister, Eighth Brother, etc.

Now, for the Imperial Inquisitorius to rank well below various main characters isn't always too objectionable for many fans, who are often already comfortable with rating the popular characters far above pretty much everybody else in the universe. It's when we get to the why of this particular standing, that some fans tend to lose the plot.

Why can't the Inquisitor match or best Obi-Wan Kenobi? It's not just that Obi-Wan, as an individual, is exactly that powerful, independent of any broader detail. No, it's because Obi-Wan is a Jedi Master. You can infer a certain level of ability from this title -- that is, Jedi Master -- and those who carry it are too much for the Inquisitor to take on. You'd need Darth Vader to deal with a Jedi Master:

Dave Filoni: And so we have an Inquisitor that goes out and hunts these guys down. Now if he was to hunt a guy down, let's say he's somewhere on Tatooine and he runs into Obi Wan Kenobi, probably the Inquisitor won't survive that. But if he did, he would call Vader up and go "You better get out here."

Interviewer: He's a Jedi Master. This isn't nobody.

Dave Filoni: This is a Master. This is somebody significant, right. So I have to believe that, as it went along, Vader got entrusted with more and more important missions, hunting down those stolen data plans. Stuff like that. And the Inquisitor is left to be this kind of hunting dog.

https://www.slashfilm.com/533176/star-wars-rebels-interview-dave-filoni/

Obi-Wan Kenobi is a Jedi Master, and therefore too powerful for the Inquisitor to challenge. Obi-Wan is an example of a Jedi Master, but he is not the only Jedi Master; we shouldn't accept that the Inquisitor can't beat Obi-Wan, then turn around and try to argue that the Inquisitor could beat a less popular Jedi Master like, say, Coleman Kcaj, or Halsey. Those Jedi are also Masters, and therefore, too powerful for the Inquisitor. If you put them in a fight with an Inquisitor, they would dominate.

Why isn't the Inquisitor comparable to Darth Vader in terms of power? It's not simply that Lord Vader, by himself, is just that outrageously strong. No, it is because Lord Vader is a Sith. The title of Sith Lord carries with it a certain level of power, and it is a level well above that of an Inquisitor. If you are a Sith, you can easily destroy the Inquisitors, but can't do the same to another Sith.

Interviewer: Let me ask a little more about the Inquisitors. There are some intriguing things about the name "Seventh Sister." Will we learn more about the hierarchy and how that works? Because there was a question of, "So are they Sith?" "No, they're not Sith." "But how are they found? Who are they?" Will we get into that?

Dave Filoni: You learn a little bit more about it. You definitely learn more about Jason Isaacs' Inquisitor this year through the two Inquisitors that we do have. Once you've got two Inquisitors, you never know, there's may be more. I mean, I don't know. She's at least the Seventh Sister, right? So the idea for that was we were always calling them "Inquisitors," which could be a little confusing. Then they became the "Male Inquisitor" and the "Female Inquisitor," which is much clearer but infinitely less fun. So we tried to decide like, what would they call themselves? Sith get names. They get cool names like Darth Sidious, Darth Vader, Darth Maul. These guys don't get that. It's a place of station for them to have less, right? They have powers, but Vader could destroy them -- easily, in fact. So I had this thought that maybe there's some kind of acolyte, monastic sensibility where they're stripped of their names, but they know, in order, which one they are.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/28/star-wars-rebels-dave-filoni-talks-inquisitors-ahsoka-and-rex-and-where-the-jedi-characters-are-during-the-movies

Darth Vader is a Sith Lord, and therefore too powerful for the Inquisitor to challenge. Lord Vader is an example of a Sith, but he is not the only Sith; we shouldn't accept that Lord Vader is easily more than a match for the Inquisitor, then turn around and try to argue that an Inquisitor could beat, say, Darth Maul. In fact, Lord Maul and Darth Sidious are specifically named as examples of fellow Sith. Whether The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Revenge of the Sith, before, after, and between, so long as they're full fledged Sith, they are immune to certain defeat against Lord Vader, and command the power to easily dominate the Inquisitors.

Why is Ahsoka Tano on a much higher level than Kanan Jarrus? Why is she able to contend with Darth Vader? It's not because she alone is just so shockingly talented, having leapt to such planes of power through her own wisdom and practice in the years since leaving the Jedi Order. No, it's because of her training during the Clone Wars; Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi -- even Yoda -- trained her to that level of ability. Ahsoka, as a Padawan Learner, was equipped with the skill and knowledge to outclass the likes of Kanan, and go head-to-head with Lord Vader:

Interviewer: With the confirmation of the additions of Ahsako Tano and Rex, how much will we see of them in season 2?

Dave Filoni: Their story had to serve the story of Rebels. I couldn’t just haphazardly bring them in because I like them. I love the characters Ahsoka and Rex. It was hard to let them go after telling their stories. But it had to be purposeful... Ahsoka really helped serve the story as far as if you wanna have Vader in Rebels, you can’t just bring him into it because he’s going to crush them. They don’t stand a chance. Ahsoka has a personal connection to Anakin Skywalker that we believe people are interested in. Once that side of the story emerges, what’s Vader like before realizes his son is alive, so that became important. Plus she is a Force wielder that is way more progressed than Kanan. She’s had training from Anakin Skywalker, one of the greatest Jedi of all time, from Obi-Wan Kenobi, from Yoda, so she brings that lineage to the rebels, but a perspective of “that didn’t work for me, I walked away from it,” which is also challenging then when you get to Ezra because he is a kid, one of the first kids where there is no Jedi order.

https://geeksofdoom.com/2015/10/09/interview-star-wars-rebels-dave-filoni

Interviewer: When you look at someone like Ezra, and you have them meeting Vader, how tough is that? You hear "Vader's the biggest badass in the galaxy" and you've got this kid. How tough is that to make it feel realistic without saying, "Well, he's our hero, so he has to survive"?

Filoni: It would have been impossible without Ahsoka Tano; we just couldn't have done it, because they would just get destroyed. We pretty much showed that in the first episode that they were all on together, where Vader confronted Kanan and Ezra and pretty much dispatched them swiftly. It really isn't a competition, which I kind of like, actually. It gets you back to classic Star Wars, which is they run. In the first two episodes of season two, they're very much running out the door on the other side of the room which, if you remember, most of the time in the original trilogy, whenever you would see Vader, that's what the characters did.Oh yeah. They come to Echo Base, "Let's get out of Echo Base." You know, in the Death Star, "Luke, shoot the door, kid, so Vader can't come after us!" They really don't stick around. Han probably would have rather turned tail and run when he went into Lando's dinner, but the Storm Troopers cut him off. We tried to bring a bit of that back, which is, if you get caught in a room with Vader, you're probably going to lose that fight unless you have a Jedi that's equally trained — as in Ahsoka — that could really stand toe-to-toe with him. Then you have a little bit more logic to the confrontation.

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/star-wars-dave-filoni-talks-rebels-well-rogue-one-connections/

Ahsoka Tano was trained by Jedi such as Anakin Skywalker, and is therefore much more formidable than Kanan Jarrus. That very same training is what allows her to contend with Darth Vader. Star Wars Rebels Ahsoka Tano is an example of putting that training to good use, but that is not the only version who's been so trained. We shouldn't accept that Lady Tano can dominate opponents like Kanan Jarrus and Ezra Bridger, and hold her own with Darth Vader, then turn around and argue that Padawan Tano cannot replicate any such combat feats. Ahsoka, as a Jedi apprentice, is already proficient and progressed enough to perform on that level. The training she received then is the very reason she can do what she does later on. Indeed, she does, disposing of Inquisitors with comparable efficiency, and battling Sith Lords on her own:

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Ahsoka Tano does improve over the years, but not significantly so. Most of her growth is of a spiritual nature as opposed to martial, as she's a much less active fighter.

Andi Gutierrez: We finally get to see Ahsoka in her prime in this episode. How has she grown as a fighter since she left the Order?

Pablo Hidalgo: Ahsoka has a fighting style that is similar to where we left her in terms of having the two blades, but she's definitely much more controlled, she's less impulsive. Maybe less flashy, but it's certainly more impactful.

Henry Gilroy: She's extremely skilled, and I think over the years, she's probably had the opportunity to hone her abilities -- but there hasn't been as much day-to-day, ongoing battle as there used to be in the Clone Wars. So you could say on some level, while she's become more measured, her growth is more spiritual in nature.

~ Star Wars Rebels, "Future of the Force" Featurette

It is the same skillset, more or less, but employed by an older, more mature version of herself. Nevertheless, it is the training she received -- and put an end to -- during the Clone Wars that makes her powerful enough to fight with Darth Maul and Lord Vader, as well as greatly overmatch the Inquisitors, and Kanan Jarrus.

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@wolfrazer:

Either the dueling gaps in Canon are FAR smaller than what they want us to think, or the showrunners really just don't care

Well, in most cases they are, but here, how powerful one fighter is relative to another doesn't always translate into an actual confrontation the way fans might expect it to. I suppose a worthwhile example would be the tiering system crafted and employed by Nick Gillard, under George Lucas, for the last two films of the prequel trilogy. If you recall, Gillard was adamant that for a sword-fighter to advance to another level was a great accomplishment, a huge jump, for crossing even one level of martial prowess was quite the journey, comparable more-so to a Richter scale than the stereotypical colour-coded belt system. Nevertheless, a level eight (Obi-Wan Kenobi) could hold his own against, and even contend with, a level nine bordering on level ten (Anakin Skywalker), and a fighter on the border of levels six and seven (Qui-Gon Jinn, Obi-Wan, General Grievous) could do the same with a level eight fighter (Darth Maul, Obi-Wan). But, a level seven (Kit Fisto) could not fight a level nine (Darth Sidious), because two consecutive levels is too much of a gap to bridge. In this case, to simplify, the Imperial Inquisitors are maybe level six. Perhaps they can fight some of the level sevens and eights, though it'll often be a little one-sided, and they could easily go down like the level sevens who came up against the Emperor.

The Imperial Inquisitorius is an organization of hunting dogs who are set upon targets of little to no significance to the Sith Lords; children being born with a connection to the Force, untrained individuals who picked up a lightsaber, Jedi younglings and Padawans who survived Order 66. An Inquisitor should be more than a match for these kinds of targets. On the other end of the scale, an Inquisitor is not a match for Jedi of significance, such as Jedi Masters or Councilors. Such Jedi are out of the Inquisitor's league, and in that situation, the Inquisitor will run away and report back to the Sith. We also know that across the board, the Inquisitors appear more powerful than they actually are, and are equipped to cheat and intimidate their way through the fights they engage in, using special weapons and dishonorable tactics to compensate for a lack of ability. This puts an asterisk next to the opponents they might normally overmatch (the partially trained Padawans and novices), and speaks to just how much better the opponents they can't take on are (the Jedi Masters), since not even dirty fighting can turn the tide in those situations.

So, we've been informed as to how the least of the Jedi (Padawans and younglings) and the best of the Jedi (the Masters and Councilors) compare to the Imperial Inquisitorius. The missing category here would be the majority of the Jedi Order: the Jedi Knights. How might a full fledged Jedi -- like Nahdar Vebb, Finn Ertay, or Pablo Jill -- stack up to an Inquisitor?

It's always technically possible, as the Inquisitor fills an ambiguous role relative to the Sith Lords, not unlike that of Asajj Ventress, Pong Krell, or even Count Dooku. For the ruling Dark Lord -- Darth Sidious -- it's a manageable level of chaos to employ another potentially dangerous Force wielder, and the Inquisitor is sort of in that position, as a former Jedi, a separate Force wielder, who has made a deal with the Emperor to be spared in exchange for loyalty to the dark side:

Interviewer: So why wouldn’t they kill all the Jedi they had? Why would they take some prisoner? Is it all for malicious purposes like what we saw?

Dave Filoni: That’s kind of a wait and see scenario. For a Sith like Palpatine, he’s so aware of Siths taking out other Siths. He can’t really have a lot of force wielders around. Though he has this new inquisitor running around, but that’s nothing new in the way that he had Ventress running around or Dooku. It’s a manageable level of chaos for Palpatine at all times and I think that there would be Jedi that could serve purpose for him. Honestly, we’ve even discussed in our own continuity how he was using Pong Krell, the Jedi warlord in the Clone Wars. He was completely satisfied to let him wreak havoc among the clones for his own needs until he destroyed himself. So Palpatine’s always playing a game and moving pieces on the board. I would imagine that coming out of the prequel era -- fans might not believe this, but I think it’s true -- that there were some Jedi that were so effected by the Clone War that they would try to barter their life for loyalty to the dark side. I don’t think it’s out of the question. I think it’s perfectly in play, though we haven’t done that at this point. Mostly because it gets into kind of gray areas and I worry we’d have to be very clear about why and who is doing that.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10/28/star-wars-rebels-dave-filoni-on-the-luminara-twist-in-rise-of-the-old-masters

The Grand Inquisitor was himself a Jedi Knight -- a member of the Coruscant Temple Guard. In cruel irony, where once he served as guardian over the Jedi Order's younglings and students, he now hunts them down with ruthless efficiency. In any case, if the Inquisitor is a former fully trained Jedi, surely it follows that he must be a match for the other Jedi Knights. Well, the problem becomes that, as we have already extensively covered, the Inquisitor meets his match in Kanan Jarrus -- and on principle, Ezra Bridger -- as do the Inquisitor's subordinates; Jarrus and Bridger, in that timeframe, are definitely not on par with full fledged Jedi.

We know what an Imperial Inquisitor absolutely cannot do, and that's face down a Jedi Master or Sith Lord. They aren't strong enough, they aren't skilled enough, and they can't cheat their way through opponents of that level. An Inquisitor is outclassed against a Master Jedi or Sith. Is the same true of a Jedi Knight? No, it is not. There is a rule in mediums such as Revenge of the Sith and Star Wars: The Clone Wars -- if you don't have a connection to the Force, and you're fighting with a lightsaber, it doesn't matter how well trained you are, how adept you've become, because at the end of the day you cannot match the lightsaber skill of a real Jedi or Sith. For this cause, General Grievous -- and Pre Vizsla, for that matter -- is incapable of equaling a full fledged Jedi or Sith in lightsaber combat. The cyborg commander is very good with a lightsaber, and he's been trained by a Sith, but ultimately he is no Sith -- and he's no Jedi, either. A real Jedi or Sith would have a shot at taking down Obi-Wan Kenobi or Asajj Ventress in a lightsaber duel, in a way that Grievous does not:

"And he (George Lucas) wanted to have a sense that there's no way that Obi-Wan could defeat this creature -- but as we can see, the Master Jedi knows exactly how to deal with this droid. Although he may have been trained by, uh, Lord Tyranus, he's no Sith and he's no Jedi."

~ Rob Coleman, Revenge of the Sith Directors' Commentary

Well I was, y'know I was thinking like that also, uh, in that sense with George, it was something he really wanted -- he was really interested in getting Jar Jar and Grievous in the room together, which, y'know, I was like "Wow, George -- that's gonna be really interesting. Not sure how that's gonna go". And, he and I talked about that quite a lot.

Um, y'know, I think fans, y'know, of course you don't know how things go down all the time and, and that was a big thing where, I went back to him, and said "Y'know, is there a way that we could do this with a character other than Grievous, because I really don't want to, kind of neutralize him in this way -- I think it's gonna make him look weak, to lose again, and, y'know, can we find a substitute?" And at one point, George said "Okay, we can take Grievous out", and we tried to write the script with someone other than Grievous, and it was with, a, the opposition leader.

The problem then became that in, in either version of the story, Anakin needed to get captured, and there really is not anybody that they could capture, that you're gonna be willing to trade, uh, for Anakin. Uh, you needed kind of an equal value situation. So, uh, I mean it presented a lot of challenges and problems having, y'know, these major characters involved, and also feasible how we're gonna make the Gungans convincingly capture Grievous.

And you are right. I mean, the Jedi have been trying to do this, but we've never had, y'know, ten, twenty, thirty Jedi around him -- he would be toast. I mean, it's not that big a challenge when Obi-Wan Kenobi in the movie "Revenge of the Sith" finally, y'know, gets Grievous on one-on-one terms -- it's a good fight, but, um, it's not the sensibility that people got, y'know, unfortunately or not, in the previous micro-series where they're all hiding in a ship, worried about Grievous is gonna come and stomp on them.

If you think of a really well-trained Jedi Knight, that's just not really a possibility -- they're trained against fear; they're trained to control their fear, and, and, he ultimately is just a droid, uh, with y'know, cybernetic--what's left of his, whatever alien he was. Uh, it's, it's not evident in Revenge of the Sith that the Jedi are ever really afraid of him. In fact, Mace Windu is the one who says -- well, Palpatine says, "What about General Grievous?" -- he says, y'know, "Grievous will run and hide, as he always does". Um, I think that line is one of the most telling about Grievous.

~ Dave Filoni, Weekly ForceCast Interviews

The interesting thing with Palpatine is Grievous never factors into that equation. He's not an acolyte, he's not someone that Palpatine would even consider would take on the role of apprentice. He's purely, uh, a killing machine. I find Grievous actually really interesting -- I know people are always a little bit down, they're like, "Oh Dave, Grievous is losing again" -- but, if you listen to the film "Revenge of the Sith", when Mace Windu is pressed, um, he presses Palpatine saying, "The war should be over now that Dooku is dead". Palpatine says "Nah, there's General Grievous -- the war won't be over till you're done with Grievous". And Mace said very pointedly, "Grievous will run and hide as he always does". So, it's not a new thing to the Jedi that Grievous is a coward, that he runs and hides -- this is in the film, and that's where you run into that area where in a lot of the material he's the guy that is out there, y'know, and the Jedi being afraid of him -- which I, I find that very hard to believe, when Obi-Wan is surrounded by what looks like 200 droids in the movie, and, and, Grievous is in front of him and he just kind of smiles at him. Obi-Wan just knows that "This is ridiculous, I'm gonna defeat you cause I'm a skilled fighter, and you're some kind of metallic, impersonation of a Jedi -- but you're not a real Jedi".

~ Dave Filoni, Weekly ForceCast Interviews

Dave Filoni: I still don't believe that, at this point -- one-to-one -- that Grievous could really take out someone like Ventress in a lightsaber fight. I mean, it's just me, but he doesn't have the Force. He can't wield it. I don't see how he can hope to be as proficient as a Jedi or a Sith could be fighting with a lightsaber, which is why he's always willing to dirty play at the end of the day.

Interviewer: Yeah, once things aren't going so well for him, he quickly cheats or calls in help.

Dave Filoni: Yeah, it's in the movie. Mace Windu says, "General Grievous will run and hide, as he always does." He's an interesting character for all that thought. And obviously, you know, he's adept at using lightsabers, but I always thought his thing was fear. If you are afraid of the many swirling blades, then you'll perish staring at them. But if you can just focus through it, you can defeat that opponent -- like any video game!

https://www.ign.com/articles/2012/03/21/star-wars-the-clone-wars-looking-back-at-season-4

Yet, General Grievous -- and Pre Vizsla -- remains a highly adept lightsaber fighter, so he can contend with the full fledged Jedi Knights and Masters. Win or lose, the Separatist Supreme Leader -- and Death Watch commander -- can likewise compete with Ahsoka Tano, another fighter we know has been trained to a level far beyond the likes of the Inquisitors. In fact, through unorthodox tactics and dirty fighting, General Grievous and Pre Vizsla become even more of a threat, enough to overcome -- or come close to killing, at least -- their otherwise superior adversaries:

It doesn't mean that he's not a threat, y'know, as we show with Nahdar Vebb -- he'll fight you with his lightsabers, and then he'll, he'll gut you with his gun when you're not looking. He's not gonna play fair, he's gonna, he's gonna do what he needs to do to win, and that's what makes Grievous kind of a challenge for the Jedi, because they're more used to an elegant style of fighting, and, and fighting on a very fair level.

~ Dave Filoni, Weekly ForceCast Interviews

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We had a, a pretty big strategy meeting about how we could force Vizsla into the fight, so that we get this one-on-one battle, and really show the Mandalorian armor at work against someone that has the Force.

This swordfight -- that's a whole act, practically. Do it right, make it exciting, that's, that's a whole act, because the fans of Pre Vizsla are gonna mob me at Celebration in the future, if, if Vizsla goes down too easily. This is not gonna be Boba Fett into the Sarlaac pit.

Vizsla's gonna unload everything he's got, at Maul, to try and win this fight.

When I told John Favreau what was gonna happen, uh he was thrilled, he was like 'Wow I never, never in a million years guessed that Darth Maul would take me on.' I'm like 'Yeah, how about that.'

The challenge was out there, to make an incredible lightsaber fight in a way we'd never seen it before; mixing in concussive weapons, laser darts... all kinds of things.

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This was all, rapid fire. It really I think came together in this fight, for something that was really remarkable and memorable on our show. It was without a doubt the best fight, we had ever done.

~ Dave Filoni, "Shades of Reason" Featurette

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It is therefore evident that, in the storytelling, not only is a Jedi Knight in relative contention with Jedi Masters and Sith, but so are his inferiors, provided they fight more... creatively. You can be a lesser swordsman compared to a full fledged Jedi Knight, but still fight on a level significantly beyond that of the Imperial Inquisitorius. Thus, a real Jedi is stronger and more skilled than an Inquisitor.

However, if a fighter around the level of a Jedi Knight can punch above his weight class against Jedi Masters and Sith Lords by fighting dirty, it stands to reason that there can be a fighter around the level of a Jedi Padawan who can punch above his weight class against Jedi Knights and Sith apprentices by fighting dirty. And that would be where the Imperial Inquisitorius comes in.

As an organization, in their investigations and missions, the Inquisitors should be able to handle most of the Jedi. They essentially never fail in the course of their duty -- typically, only in cases that turn out to involve significant targets -- and so when an Inquisitor does fail, somehow, Darth Vader himself shows up to determine what the problem is. Generally speaking, in an overall sense, the Inquisitors are supposed to be capable of taking care of most Jedi. Especially in this era, where the light side is really suffering, and most of the targets they'll encounter are younglings and students. The Inquisitors are lacking in their abilities, and therefore come equipped to cheat and impose as a compensating strategy, seeming more powerful than they really are. An Imperial Inquisitor cannot truly match or outfight a proper Jedi Knight; they can win, because as villainous hunters, there's more to their arsenal than just dueling prowess, but they aren't actually on par with these targets. So, they wouldn't do as well in an era where they don't have as much of positional advantage, and the Jedi are in better condition -- e.g., the Clone Wars.

Interviewer: Um, and so at this point, also during the Dark Times, the early stages of the Rebellion, I was always lead to believe -- and this comes from the Star Wars novelization -- that Palpatine shut himself off from the rest of the public; he really let his stooges and bootleggers handle his agenda for him, while he, he kept himself shut off, and, y'know, I thought maybe he's practicing some Sith magic and stuff -- and I would assume his apprentice would be there right by his side while he's doing that, only dispatching Vader for Sith business, as opposed to Imperial business.

Dave Filoni:I think predominantly that's the case; I think that, y'know, there is a threat that Vader has -- that he keeps in some ways the military in line as well, um, when he has to -- but I think predominantly, Vader, y'know, is involved like, "Hey, on Lothal here, there seems to be a Jedi presence, and it got one of my star destroyers blown up. This is really bad. This looks bad, it makes us look weak -- you have to go do something about this personally. An Inquisitor died -- that doesn't happen." Y'know, so you send in Vader to make all those wrongs rights, uh, for the Emperor, and that's the way we decided to use him. And, y'know, in a show like ours it's very easy -- um, kind of in the Saturday morning tradition -- to have the villain on every week, uh, and then, all of a sudden they're very, y'know, impotent. They have nothing to bring to the table, uh, because you're like, "Oh, well, they'll figure out a way to beat him this week -- they figured it out last week." Y'know, you don't, you don't want that with Darth Vader. So, we always were set from the beginning to try to be very careful about when, and where, and how, to use, uh, Darth.

Interviewer: Well, I could see that, and, and so you incorporate the Inquisitors, and so they can, y'know, do Vader's dirty work for him, and he only needs to get his hands dirty when absolutely necessary.

Dave Filoni:Right. If they find Obi-Wan, they're, they'd call him in right away. There wouldn't be this prolonged, y'know, "Seek and feel things out, and, maybe we call Vader," because the Inquisitors should be able to deal with the majority of Jedi -- especially in the time period; probably in the Clone War they wouldn't have done as well.

~ Rebels Force Radio, July 3, 2015

Dave Filoni: Well, an Inquisitor lightsaber, y'know, it spins, and it's got kind of these multi-functions, and it's all about intimidation, fear, and, and, y'know, you throw it, which is not the most honourable seeming thing -- throwing a sword at someone is never really looked upon highly -- um, and that's why I call it a cheat. It, it's, it's a, it's a simple way to do something that Maul actually does with far greater skill -- spinning and twirling, and this guy can just kind of stand there in the middle of a helicopter blade; and so it's the mechanical element of it to me that says this guy isn't as powerful as you think. But, y'know, to the great many that *he* would encounter that might've picked up a lightsaber -- or been like, say, a youngling or a Padawan that survived -- he would be more than a match for any of them. For a member of the Jedi Council, y'know, if they survived, I think that, uh, the Inquisitor would be a lot harder pressed in that battle... y'know, like I would say that someone like Mace Windu is far, far, far above the Inquisitor that we see on Star Wars Rebels. But in this dark time, when the light side is really suffering, he, y'know, is a fairly powerful guy -- especially for someone like Kanan, who kind of lacks his own conviction and belief in his abilities at this point. Uh, if you do that, and you don't believe in yourself, how can you even fight someone like the Inquisitor? So, when he gets Force thrown, he really gets thrown, and that throw has as much to do with Kanan's own lack of belief in himself as it does the Inquisitor pushing him -- y'know, there's not a lot countering the Inquisitor in that fight. We thought it was important to show Kanan really struggling, uh, y'know, almost as if he hadn't really picked up a saber in a very long time -- he would still know certain things he could do with it, but the Inquisitor is gonna just greatly outmatch him.

~ Rebels Force Radio, October 31, 2014

This is where we circle back to the prequel trilogy tiering system; an Imperial Inquisitor might be a level five (at best, six) but they can cheat their way through superior level six or seven fighters. Level eight, however, is too high, even with cheating. General Grievous and Pre Vizsla are higher than the Inquisitors (level six or seven) and therefore can cheat their way through even higher levels (level seven or eight) despite also being inferior. At the end of the day, though, neither the Inquisitors nor Grievous and Vizsla are a true match for the Jedi Knights and Masters; the Inquisitors are by and large considerably lower on the scale than General Grievous and Pre Vizsla, though.

There is one partial exception within the Imperial Inquisitorius, and that would be the very finest of their ranks: the best Inquisitor is probably near Asajj Ventress in terms of power. This individual Inquisitor -- and he alone -- can thus be considered in legitimate contention with the Jedi Knights, to an extent the rest of the Inquisitors are not:

Interviewer: Well, I could see that, and, and so you incorporate the Inquisitors, and so they can, y'know, do Vader's dirty work for him, and he only needs to get his hands dirty when absolutely necessary.

Dave Filoni:Right. If they find Obi-Wan, they're, they'd call him in right away. There wouldn't be this prolonged, y'know, "Seek and feel things out, and, maybe we call Vader," because the Inquisitors should be able to deal with the majority of Jedi -- especially in the time period; probably in the Clone War they wouldn't have done as well. Um, y'know, uh, the, the best Inquisitor -- probably -- is *almost* like Ventress, but Ventress, I would think, is more powerful. That's just my opinion, but I would think so.

~ Rebels Force Radio, July 3, 2015

Of course, for one who is concerned with noting the fighting abilities of these characters, the question becomes: which incarnation of Asajj Ventress is being referred to here? For there are several. Well, when Dave Filoni references the character of Asajj Ventress in relation to the Inquisitors, it is because the latter closest resemble the former in terms of their function; an Inquisitor is a dark side practitioner employed by the two existing Sith Lords, but is not quite considered one of them. Filoni therefore ought to have in mind, well, classic Asajj Ventress -- the Separatist agent and acolyte of Count Dooku and Darth Sidious, not Ventress as a Jedi Padawan, Nightsister proselyte, or free-range mercenary. Classic Asajj Ventress has a dark side career spanning the first three seasons of Star Wars: The Clone Wars before she's cut loose, but she's always growing stronger throughout that time period -- which version of classic Ventress, then?

This too is a relatively straightforward matter. Not even the best Imperial Inquisitor is cut out to successfully face down a Jedi Master -- the popular example being Obi-Wan Kenobi -- yet, who is Asajj Ventress pitted against in the earliest episodes of Star Wars: The Clone Wars? Why, a Jedi Master; Luminara Unduli. Ventress engages and eventually overwhelms Master Unduli in their struggle aboard the Tranquility:

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It can be pointed out that Luminara Unduli was the more skilled sword-fighter in that duel, and had underestimated her opponent's abilities, but Asajj Ventress still managed to take her down; and Master Unduli returns to the fight backed up by Ahsoka Tano in recognition of Ventress' power. The Imperial Inquisitors cannot hope to defeat a Jedi of Master Unduli's calibre, not even by fighting dirty. This is their marked limit, from the least of the Inquisitorius to the very best. It is this particular iteration of Ventress who is only somewhat ahead of the top Inquisitor.

There would also be the fact that Asajj Ventress is a Sith. Not a Dark Lord, sure, but a Sith apprentice nonetheless, operating under the guise of Count Dooku's personal assassin and top operative, but secretly serving as the disciple of Darth Tyranus with the aim of overthrowing Darth Sidious. Ventress isn't quite a Sith Lord, but she's being trained to harness that level of power -- the dark side strength that significantly overshadows an Imperial Inquisitor's command of the Force:

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~ Star Wars Insider #104

Darth Sidious: Gunray's capture could be a serious threat to us, my friend -- the Viceroy will not last long under Jedi interrogation.

Darth Tyranus: I have already put a plan into action, my Lord -- my best agent, Asajj Ventress, will infiltrate the Jedi ship and either free Gunray, or silence him.

Darth Sidious: Ventress? You are putting a great deal of faith in an operative who has failed us in the past.

Darth Tyranus: She is a gifted assassin -- you have my word she will complete her mission to the letter.

Darth Sidious: Very well. You may proceed.

[Exit Darth Sidious; enter Asajj Ventress]

Asajj Ventress: Master.

Darth Tyranus: There is no margin for error this time, child. You must prove yourself worthy of being my apprentice.

Asajj Ventress: I am worthy -- as you shall see.

~ Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Season 1: Episode 9: "Cloak of Darkness"

Interviewer: Dave, um, one of the things that's been really fun about season 3 -- uh, even in some of the more political episodes -- is that the character of Dooku is getting much more, uh, defined and, and well-rounded; we're seeing different sides of him. And, the big betrayal, when he betrayed Asajj Ventress, did he do so out of an act of loyalty to Sidious? Or out of fear? Both? What would you say?

Dave Filoni: I would say it's mainly--I mean it's odd to think of, but I think there is fear there. Y'know, fear is a powerful motivator for these evil beings. Um, fear is something--I don't know how much loyalty they have to one another. Dooku is training Asajj Ventress -- he's only doing that because he wants to murder Darth Sidious, and take over himself. Y'know, this has been explained, y'know, forever by George's theme, the Rule of Two, and how it's inevitable--these guys know they're going to--it's all part of the process to betray one another. So it's definitely, there's definitely some fear because he's not ready to take on Sidious by himself. And if, y'know, Sidious calls his bluff and says "I know Ventress is not what she appears to be", y'know, if Dooku says "No, I'm not going to kill her", well then Sidious knows for a fact that Dooku is ready to be taken out. Y'know, so he has to, I mean he has to more out of fear, definitely, you're correct, than loyalty.

~ Weekly ForceCast Interviews, April 15th, 2011

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Asajj Ventress, from the moment she is introduced as one of the major villains in Star Wars: The Clone Wars, is in a fundamentally more powerful position than that of the Imperial Inquisitorius, and can perform feats of strength, skill, and cunning that they cannot.

Asajj Ventress, at this stage, has her own limitations, which are useful in sorting out what form of challenge you might expect from the mightiest of the Imperial Inquisitorius. Ventress is dangerously powerful and adept, of course, but she's also ruthless. It is this quality -- her devious intelligence -- that comes to the fore in battle against Luminara Unduli; Ventress fights dirty on top of being quite strong, which proves critical against Master Unduli who, while the greater duelist, underestimates Ventress' abilities:

"Their battle really is, we likened it to a samurai against a ninja; the samurai who are the good guys, and the ninja are the back-stabbing killers."

~ Henry Gilroy

Luminara Unduli: Our attacker has come for Gunray. Stay here and guard him -- I'll confront her myself.

Ahsoka Tano: Master, all due respect, but Ventress is too powerful for any one Jedi to fight alone. Let me help you.

Luminara Unduli: I am more than capable of dealing with a lone assassin armed with undisciplined fighting skills.

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Luminara Unduli: (to Asajj Ventress) Even with my vision clouded, I recognize the fighting style of Count Dooku. Your version is unrefined -- amateurish, sloppy."

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Luminara Unduli: (to Ahsoka Tano) This assassin -- I've never faced an adversary like her. I should have listened to your advice.

It is little different against another Jedi Master, Obi-Wan Kenobi, who likewise proves the superior sword-fighter, withstanding Asajj Ventress' efforts and disabling, then disarming, at least partially, her weaponry -- Ventress presses him though, driving him back and back, and navigating a match with somebody as treacherous as her is quite the trial for Master Kenobi:

[In reference to the major conflicts between heroes and villains, including Obi-Wan Kenobi versus Asajj Ventress, in the Star Wars: The Clone Wars movie]

"That's the villains: how they behave and how they act, and the rules they don't follow, and how they stab you in the back -- all of these things make villains great, and it's a really big test for your heroes to stand up to these really arch-villains."

~ Dave Filoni

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During the same mission, Asajj Ventress went blow-for-blow with Anakin Skywalker, too, as well as his apprentice, Ahsoka Tano; Ventress once again demonstrated formidable skills, holding her own both in one-to-one dueling and two-on-one combat -- at one point, Skywalker outfought her, breaking her saberstaff and depriving her of one blade, but she recovered smoothly and countered with a potent blast of the dark side:

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Asajj Ventress is not truly as skilled as Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker, or Luminara Unduli, but she is adroit enough to put up a fight in that respect, with her overarching threat being the ferocious power and unscrupulous cunning with which she fights. This gave her the advantage over a younger, more brash superior (Skywalker), and helped her edge out an older but overconfident superior (Master Unduli), but ultimately proved futile against a superior who was older and had sufficient prior experience (Master Kenobi). Ventress has fought Master Kenobi -- and Skywalker -- before, predictably holding her own though on the back foot, and running through a series of somewhat less-than-honourable tricks:

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Obi-Wan Kenobi knows what he's up against, so Asajj Ventress' approach to combat is unlikely to faze him going forward. And this we observe -- before the aforementioned duel between Obi-Wan Kenobi and Asajj Ventress on the bridge -- in the monastery on Teth, through the massive fight in which Master Kenobi is merely distracting Ventress, engaging in what somewhat amounts to a sporting spar, quite confident in his ability to handle Ventress, and rightly so -- Master Kenobi, ultimately, was unthreatened by Ventress in that battle, holding back in order to buy time for his partner's mission. This conveys two things: Master Kenobi has a solid advantage over Ventress in terms of strength and skill, to the point where her best efforts just aren't going to genuinely overwhelm him; and, Ventress is adroit enough to press Kenobi's abillties, for he visibly strains to hold her at bay, he is unable to directly subdue her, and he cannot risk revealing his plan, because he's not sure of his ability to prevent her from leaving and foiling Anakin Skywalker's assignment elsewhere. It is a balance between Master Kenobi being better than her at fighting, and Ventress representing a very real problem for him in combat:

"It was a lot of fun to do this scene with James. Kenobi most of the time has to play the serious one, but here we get to see him relax and just have a bit of fun banter with Ventress. He's very relaxed -- he ultimately is in no danger from her. He's just buying time for Anakin..."

~ Dave Filoni, 'Star Wars: The Clone Wars' Directors' Commentary

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On the bridge, by which time both combatants have sensed -- and acknowledged -- the success of Anakin Skywalker's mission, relieving Obi-Wan Kenobi of his obligation to hold back, his advantage becomes more apparent, yet it remains a good fight.

From the best Imperial Inquisitor, we can expect a respectable performance, but ultimately he'll remain at arms' length, in a manner of speaking.

As for the Imperial Inquisitorius as a whole, we can pivot from Asajj Ventress to Ahsoka Tano. When the Togrutan first steps onto the scene as a young Jedi Padawan, she is not an amatuer in terms of her combat abilities; she is a trained fighter, prepared and equipped to handle lightsaber duels specifically, with considerable skill. That doesn't mean she can truly compete with the elite fighters, but it does mean that she represents a competent adversary in such settings -- she can even leverage certain aspects of her skillset in order to put up more of a fight:

Dave Filoni: We had a really interesting situation where Ahsoka crosses swords with General Grievous. George very specifically said that, "She's a Padawan -- she wouldn't be afraid of Grievous". I remember that. She's very adept, she's very quick, her size is an advantage, uh--

Henry Gilroy: That doesn't mean she could stand up to him.

Dave Filoni: It doesn't mean that she would beat him, but she's been trained for these situations, to fight. He almost toys with her to an extent, because she is small, and he wants to kill her over a longer period of time. But it was very important that he, at one point, gets her, and has her at lightsaber-point. You show that she's not going to win this fight -- she's only going to be able to escape it.

Henry Gilroy: And she knows pretty quickly that she's gonna have to run to stay alive.

Dave Filoni: Buying time -- that's all she's doing, is buying time. She might very well die. It's just a matter of survival for that girl against an opponent like Grievous -- unless Anakin is there. They would fight him together. But of course, Anakin can't meet General Grievous.

~ Star Wars: The Clone Wars: "Duel of the Droids" Featurette

Now, fighters like Asajj Ventress and General Grievous would be much stronger than Ahsoka Tano at this point, and so they are capable of knocking her down in relatively swift fashion:

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At the same time, Ahsoka Tano is adept enough to properly engage in lightsaber combat against her marked superiors, notwithstanding her inevitable defeat, and the admittedly one-sided nature of the affair:

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It is in this realm of fighting prowess that the likes of Kanan Jarrus (and friends) find themselves. If you recall the character profile provided by Dave Filoni, Kanan's training background is pretty much the same as this version of Ahsoka Tano, and it is the recovery of that training that makes Kanan a match for the Inquisitor(s). Fighters like Padawan Tano (at age fourteen), Kanan, and the Inquisitor(s) are not nearly as advanced as the elite combatants, but they're proficient enough to handle themselves in lightsaber combat up to a certain point, and lean on various unique attributes of their own to relieve pressure -- where Padawan Tano might rely on her small size and limber figure, the Fifth Brother might emphasize his powerful physique and multi-function lightsaber.

So, what does this look like in action for the Imperial Inquisitorius, by and large?

Ahsoka Tano, in her fighting prime as an adult -- and as an equally trained apprentice of Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi -- is much more powerful than Kanan Jarrus, as we've covered. She is absolutely capable of defeating opponents of that level -- the Imperial Inquisitorius -- rather quickly, as she's demonstrated time and again:

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Nevertheless, on Takobo, Ahsoka Tano engages two Imperial Inquisitors -- the Fifth Brother, and Seventh Sister -- and a real fight ensues. Lady Tano displays her superior skills by dominating the Fifth Brother, but the Seventh Sister holds out for much longer, leaping about, going back-and-forth with her opponent, frequently alternating between her weapon's rotor-mode and standard configuration. Lady Tano outfights the Seventh Sister too, and in general was never truly in danger against those two Inquisitors, yet was strained to fight them off:

"I could have had that fight be all twenty-two minutes, because I was so excited. She's never really in jeopardy, Ahsoka, in that fight."

~ Dave Filoni

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On Malachor, Ahsoka Tano is backed up by Kanan Jarrus, but it is the Fifth Brother who asserts himself, boldly engaging both duelists, succeeding in staving them off, and indeed, pushing them back through a combination of physical strength and his propeller-lightsaber. The Seventh Sister and Eighth Brother join the fray, and it becomes an extended three-on-two -- Tano and Jarrus eventually send their opponents reeling away, but not without a fight:

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Later on, the Fifth Brother ambushes Ahsoka Tano and Kanan Jarrus, briefly occupying them while the Eighth Brother moves to join the fight, engaging Kanan while the Fifth Brother focuses on Lady Tano, pressing her back and back. A lengthy match proceeds, with Kanan and Lady Tano turning the tide and driving the Inquisitors back, but failing to make any decisive headway before the intervention of Lord Maul:

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Lord Maul, of course, likewise demonstrates the expected ability to rapidly take down or beat away the Imperial Inquisitors -- whether they're alone, in pairs, or even trios:

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All the same, Lord Maul does not just power his way through the Inquisitors as though they're but common soldiers -- even when he's backed up by Ahsoka Tano and Kanan Jarrus. The Inquisitors can fight him, however barely, and when he beats them away, it's with non-lethal physical blows, or blasts of the Force.

The constant balance, the consistent depiction, would be that an Imperial Inquisitor is adept enough to make things difficult, but also weak enough to be dominated. Generally, you could have a noteworthy fight that perhaps isn't too dangerous for the superior participant, or a trouncing that still isn't a full blown slaughter. That's where we come back to the IG-100 MagnaGuard comparison.

In general, an IG-100 MagnaGuard would be faster, stronger, more agile and coordinated, but an Imperial Inquisitor should be more dangerous overall, as they wield the power of the dark side and are equipped -- and inclined, by nature -- to fight dirty, and cut corners. In all likelihood, Darth Vader's Inquisitorius wouldn't have been as successful when the Jedi Order was in full operation, such as the Clone Wars -- General Grievous' MagnaGuards were in play then, but they were cut down with greater frequency, because droids are easier to dispose of from a storyteller's perspective, as the destruction of machinery isn't considered violence, per se. Normally, your heroes can't just cut their way through the Inquisitors, 'cause that's a bloodbath. In this respect, an Inquisitor's portrayal is inherently advantageous. Typically speaking, whenever you see a MagnaGuard sliced, that'd probably translate to kicking or Force pushing an Inquisitor. However, the finest showings from the MagnaGuards will outshine those of the Inquisitors, but their least impressive performances will be worse than the most decisive losses suffered by their Imperial counterparts. You get a lot of fights in between, though, and that's where the similarity is most prevalent.

Above Saleucami, for instance, Obi-Wan Kenobi finds himself at odds with two IG-100 MagnaGuards; they tag-team him initially, but he baits one into striking down the other and, after deflecting a few blows from General Grievous, he turns his lightsaber to the lone remaining MagnaGuard, who presses the Jedi Master back until there is no room left to retreat. Master Kenobi is able to destroy the droid bodyguard, and it wasn't a major battle, but it was a decent bout, in which the MagnaGuard backed its opponent up against the end of the chamber:

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Anakin Skywalker challenged four IG-100 MagnaGuards to a fight; the first charged him head-on, and the two exchanged several blows before Skywalker cut him down, only to be followed by the next MagnaGuard, whose strikes pushed Skywalker back toward the hallway entrance, at which point it became a two-on-one; the pair of MagnaGuards flank Skywalker, and one of them succeeds in scoring a grazing cut to his shoulder before being cut down -- the fourth MagnaGuard steps in place of the third, but after a bit more fighting, Skywalker is able to destroy the fourth and second of his opponents, finally ending the combat. The majority of trouble in this fight for Skywalker is contained in the more extended two-on-ones, though he couldn't just instantly dismiss each individual MagnaGuard, and so he ended up fighting two at once. It is another difficult battle:

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On Naboo, we are first introduced to Count Dooku's MagnaGuards, and Anakin Skywalker comes up against four of them. These MagnaGuards toy with Skywalker -- fighting him, tagging him, flipping around and circling him, eventually coordinating with Count Dooku to disarm the Jedi Knight, whose only real way to fend them off is the Force. An exceedingly dangerous skirmish for Skywalker, one he would have lost much sooner had the four MagnaGuards gone all in, instead of taking turns pressing him:

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On Utapau, Obi-Wan Kenobi fights four IG-100 MagnaGuards; he cuts down one of them right out the gate, then combats the remaining three: the dynamics don't reflect the expected line of reasoning, which would be something like, "Well, if he can face three, he can certainly defeat two, and one is even easier." Master Kenobi eventually fells a second MagnaGuard, and has now reduced the number of opponents from four to two -- the remaining two continue to compete, both as a team and individually, scoring numerous blows on the Jedi Master, who ultimately just uses the Force to pin them:

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That degree of challenge holds true throughout the film, as a dramatic two-on-two occurs aboard the Invisible Hand between the pair of MagnaGuards protecting General Grievous, and Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi. IG-101 & 102 pose quite the challenge before eventually going down, keeping their opponents on the defensive for most of the struggle, in addition to scoring several hits:

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Again on Naboo, Anakin Skywalker is faced with two of Count Dooku's MagnaGuards; he rushes and destroys the first one pretty quickly, and has the upper hand over the second, though it blocks and evades his attacks, scoring a hit of its own in beating down Skywalker's swordarm -- it then cocks back for quite the punch, but much to its surprise, Skywalker physically catches and overpowers the hit, then combines the Force and his lightsaber to finish off the droid bodyguard. A decisive but tough struggle:

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On Utapau, Anakin Skywalker faces off against a dual-wielding IG-100 MagnaGuard, and the ensuing fight is quite well matched. Obi-Wan Kenobi has to remind Skywalker that they need to keep the MagnaGuards at least somewhat intact -- since their goal is to subdue and interrogate the droids -- much to a struggling Skywalker's frustration. Another MagnaGuard challenges Master Kenobi, driving in back and scoring a powerful kick that sends the Jedi flying and causes him to drop his lightsaber. Skywalker, meanwhile, remains stymied by his MagnaGuard, who eventually lands a glancing cut; Skywalker counters, managing to sever one of the droid's arms, then gives up and resorts to the Force out of anger. Master Kenobi, unarmed, has been forced to duck, weave, and tangle with his MagnaGuard for quite a while, eventually recovering his lightsaber, though it is a flying tackle from Skywalker that finally downs the droid. These dynamic duels are akin to Master Kenobi's bout with Asajj Ventress on Teth, and Skywalker's tussle with Barriss Offee on Coruscant, only even more difficult:

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Further along the line, the positions are reversed in that an unarmed MagnaGuard evades, fights, and nearly kills an armed Obi-Wan Kenobi. Prior to that, Master Kenobi traded blows to no real conclusion with a MagnaGuard on a speeder, eventually disabling the droid's vehicle in order to defeat it. An unorthodox fight all around, but a good one nevertheless:

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The best of the Imperial Inquisitorius -- the fellow who is probably almost as powerful as Asajj Ventress -- would likely be the Grand Inquisitor, but in terms of the best combat showing we've seen from the Inquisitors, the black knight known as Marrok would take centrestage; Marrok twice duels with Ahsoka Tano, holding his own and appearing to legitimately challenge her abilities across the board:

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Whether or not Marrok is the best of the Inquisitors, it is reasonable to point out that such a performance would challenge most of the fighters who do otherwise outclass the Inquisitorius.

The various Imperial Inquisitors and IG-100 MagnaGuards on the big screen often come up against the elite Jedi fighters, and their performances vary within a certain range more often than not -- the exceptions being the best and least MagnaGuards, primarily. Most of these confrontations wouldn't merit the same attention, or constitute the same challenge as one of the major battles with the big villains, and in the case of the Imperial Inquisitorius they are supposed to be well beneath that level, with some partial grace in regards to their top member.

If the cutting edge of the Imperial Inquisitorius is almost as formidable as Asajj Ventress, and the aforementioned tip of the spear is the Grand Inquisitor, then it would be reasonable to expect a difficult, even dangerous bout. The outcome, however, short of some major foul play, would rest inevitably with Anakin Skywalker, for he is a much greater opponent than Kanan Jarrus, and can compete on a level beyond any Inquisitor.

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Happy to report that Anakin still slaps after TotE

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@greysentinel365: I think GI can take AotC Anakin. He should be above him in sabers at least.

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