BP only has his suit and nothing else
Black panther Vs wolverine
@smoothsanta: But wolvie has way more experience
@waitomegastorm: How so?
@kratodamanto: How so?
@thedevil98: I dont see how T'challa is putting him down and if we are being slick here, I'd say Logan outlasts him
Spite. Black Panther is helpless here. He may stall and defend, but what is he going to do offensively?
@smoothsanta: no he isn't wolverine has him beat in all categories skill wolverine is as good if not straight up better he is faster and stronger more durable and his regeneration he wins a decent fight
@smoothsanta: HF + claws that cut everything + unbreakable skeleton is a combo BP can't defeat
@comic_book_fan: I don't think he's better than T'challa in hand to hand, yes he's one of the best, but the guys style comes from taking a beating. T'challa on the other hand relies on precise striking and holds, and is smart enough to know how to take Logan down with his healing factor.
Black Panther with suit only? He’s never putting Logan down while Logan can bypass the suit, is already as skilled and probably a bit stronger while T’Challa has him in agility.
Seems the most succinct and accurate analysis.
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wolverine claws did penetrate and scratch through BP suit but BP is faster and should have the advantge here u less BP jobs around and loses stamina IN which wolvie excelled at
@o0deadman0o: and then you woke up
@smoothsanta: logan chooses to get hit because he can take the beating and it's quicker he knows precise strikes too. he may not use technique all of the time because tanking hits and putting a claw through is quicker but he has trained most of the x-men and black widow and he has beaten all of the best including panther not to mention the death of wolverine he takes down groups of men who have fought cap by himself with no healing and already sick and injured
Black Panther with suit only? He’s never putting Logan down while Logan can bypass the suit, is already as skilled and probably a bit stronger while T’Challa has him in agility.
I would assume he has the anti-metal claws here since they are built into the suit. But even without them depending on how you wank certain feats Black Panther could have ways to knock out Wolverine:
Admittedly if we are assuming he doesn't have anti-metal claws Black Panther is at a dsadvantage since he is relying on his kinetic energy blasts.
@dcandmarvelcomicfan: not even close panther is smarter and you can argue as skilled although i would give the slight edge in skill to wolverine because of experience but at best you could do is say they are both masters of all known forms of combat so it's a tie in skill but wolverine is stronger faster more durable and harder to put down and if panther hurts logan to bad he will go berserk and those stat advantages wolverine already has all increase even higher wolverine is meant to fight the hulk and characters close to savage hulk he has the skill of your black panthers and captain america's but he isn't really one of those guys wolverine at his best should take a good majority
@thedevil98: BP wins. This was made years ago wolverine vs black panther - Battles - Comic Vine
Actually no. Wolverine will keep coming back until BP can't stand no more.
BP punches a guy that regens, whereas Wolverine stabs a guy that won't heal back.
@comic_book_fan: Just read Wolverine (2013) #8.
Black Panther kind of just found him annoying, and stated Logan couldn't win. Yes it's just a statement but the fight itself felt like little brother trying to fight big brother.
If BP is limited to only his suit and can't use his anti-metal claws or energy daggers, Logan probably wins.
How do you mean "probably"? There's little chance of BP winning with plot. Without it, James murders him in slices.
@smoothsanta: that wolverine was a afraid of shaving he wasn't in his right mind he lost humiliatingly to sabertooth and in the death of wolverine he fights him again still without his regeneration but in a more normal mind set and stomped him that panther fight was very poorly done and way out of character.
@dcandmarvelcomicfan: Wolverine (2013) #8
It was what it was. Both were holding back but IMO T'challa had the upper hand.
Everyone beats up Sabretooth lately so Logan beating him isn't that good.
I do remember reading T'challa stomping classic Sabretooth, even to the point running him down in a jungle after Creed was well ahead of him.
@smoothsanta: i was explaining the difference in his mindset right after he lost to black panther he was oneshotted by sabertooth laying on the floor crying infront of kitty and the other x-men while creed was literally walking all over him and you can tell in the panther fight he don't want to fight and is scared the whole point of that story arc that the fight was from was to show how far wolverine had fallen and make him look weak.
the whole point was to show how afraid to die he was when he is kill able which is garbage because wolverine has never thought he would live for ever he never feared death hell which is the worse thing death could possibly offer and and did not break so basically they completely changed his character for this point
when wolverine was back in his right mind he fought creed like a year later in the death of wolverine and wolverine beat him after he had already killed nuke and dozens of assassins without his powers
T’Challa isn’t putting Logan down before getting stabbed, he needs more gear.
I asked about T’Challa with a vibranium suit, energy daggers, anti-metal claws and obviously on the hsh vs Wolverine with his memories and essentially it came down to this: Logan is slightly more skilled, T’Challa is slightly faster. Who could bypass the others defense faster? If Logan fights to his capability and T’Challa fights to his capability then the Wolverine edges it out. However, if Logan fights underestimating T’Challa obviously he loses.
I love the fact that people think T’Challa wins based off of that one instance alone where he claims that Black Panther was too fast or whatever. How is Black Panther putting Logan down?
Anti metal slices through Logans skull, energy daggers one shot, energy claws one shot, spear of bashenga one shots, Way faster, more skilled, Way more experiences, way better hax and abilities, his force fields can't be cut through, his ice pellets would trap logan, solar flares burn logan to a crisp, He can turn into a hulkbuster, can multiply his strength by 10 and blatantly overpower logan, and he has the better win record. In black panther issue 8 he blitzed and outskilled wolverine, in COC he stalemated him, in their most recent fights he beat wolverine as well. I'm not naming the fight where BP beat logan because logan had no healing factor, but it was pretty obvious that BP was faster and stronger regardless.
Black panther also has necromancy and can summon his ancestors, his soul sense gives him precog, He has King of the dead abilities, the heart shaped herb, and anti magic (he gained all this back, as seen in his 2018 guidebook and statements of him still having these abilities).
One thing I would like to point out is that multiple people still think Black Panthers suit can be cut by adamantium, well His recent fight with logan proves otherwise:
Well this one occured in black panther #8
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This is the recent one:
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As we can see in the fight wolverine failed to cut through his suit, even in that fight Black panther stated that his vibranium laced teeth could not be cut through, and logan cussed in admission. Moving on, before anyone here cries that "Adamantium should pierce vibranium, it's PIS!", hold your horses. Iron man said in his own comic that both vibranium and mysterium can block adamantium:
https://readcomicsonline.ru/uploads/manga/invincible-iron-man-2022/chapters/15/13.jpg
So with that being said, Black panther's suit blocking adamantium should not be so far fetched, especially when It's not that far off actual vibranium in terms of durability. Furthermore, before anybody brings up old anti feats from black panther's previous comics, you should know that BP's current comics or more recent ones (since 2016) depict him having nanotechnology that is laced with vibranium, not cloth, so cutting along the grain, Using knives etc doesn't work unless you have vibranium yourself, and even then Black Panther's suit can block vibranium too:
https://readcomicsonline.ru/uploads/manga/black-panther-2021/chapters/2.1/14.jpg
So all in all, If logan is using his adamantium claws, they will either be sliced off by BP's Antarctic vibranium claws or the suit will block it. I can add black panther being the stronger and faster opponent of the two, but I believe their fights already prove that, but iff people need more, I'll send.
Also, for everyone that knows little about black panther: Everything he pulls out at random is standard equipment because it is all built into his suit, and his uit is consistently reworked and upgraded, so basically everything t'challa brings out is indeed base, unless it was a prep weapon. His suit stores every weapon he uses or has used in order for t'challa to be ready for basically every threat that comes his way. Except debatably his gear in man without fear, all the gear he pulls at random is his own.
So yeah, Black panther's gear, skill, physicals and weapory gives him the win as he has too many options that I can't fit in here, and he has multiple ways in which he can literally one shot Logan. Black panther isn't some slouch or regular street tier. Black panther, Moon knight and shang chi are in a tier of their own and debatably not street, people Just read none of them so they assume based off limited knowledge on comics or movies.
Proof for black panther still has basically all his abilities, he's even trained in all forms of martial arts:
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91IrErn+eeL._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_.jpg
Proof that black panther consistently upgrades his suit so all of his weapons would still apply:
https://www.impulsegamer.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/blackpanther06.jpg
O yeah, all in all, black panther is too poerful for wolverine to handle. Panther has beaten up sabretooth and deadpool so Logans healing factor doesn't matter, he can still be incapacitated. Also, these moves one shot Logan:
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