How many John Wicks can Batman beat?

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#1  Edited By thelocust619

Look, Im on my third 10 hour day in a row at work, Im sore, every muscle wants to explode. I need a distraction. Help me out, guys. Sorry if this has been done before.

Edit: Apologies for the lack of setup. Let's give Wick his latest suit, a pistol, a backup pistol, and his boot knife.

R1: Baleman

R2: Burtonman

R3: Batfleck

R4: Comic Bruce Wayne (bullet resistant suit)

R5: Batman

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1, 0, 2, 3, +10

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R1. 0

R2. 0

R3 5+

R4: 10-20

R5-25-50

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0,0,0,25,30

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Depends heavily on setup

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R1: Baleman At least 5

R2: Burtonman No idea

R3: Batfleck 15? Maybe more than 20

R4: Comic Bruce Wayne (bullet-resistant suit) Infinite

R5: Batman Infinite

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I got you dawg!

R1: 1.

R2: 1.

R3: 2-3 at the max.

R4: 8-13 (estimated guess).

R5: 20-30 of them.

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#8 frozen  Moderator

R1: Baleman At least 5

R2: Burtonman No idea

R3: Batfleck 15? Maybe more than 20

R4: Comic Bruce Wayne (bullet-resistant suit) Infinite

R5: Batman Infinite

If Baleman gets Gotham Knight feats, he can get quite OP.

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#10  Edited By frozen  Moderator

@advent_ said:

@frozen: Gotham Knight feats?

Anime set inbetween Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. We see him cut bullet in half and have force fields:

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@frozen said:
@power_hunter said:

R1: Baleman At least 5

R2: Burtonman No idea

R3: Batfleck 15? Maybe more than 20

R4: Comic Bruce Wayne (bullet-resistant suit) Infinite

R5: Batman Infinite

If Baleman gets Gotham Knight feats, he can get quite OP.

Yeah, I agree. I never looked too much into it so I am only taking into account the movies.

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Yall need to put respect on Johns name lol, how is Bale Man or Batfleck beating one of him? Especially not Batfleck lol

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@power_hunter: What feats does Baleman Or Batfleck have above John?

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@infinitemass: Batfleck could take out Atleast a couple John wicks wouldn't you say?

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@warrior8411: After his recent movie, I don't think so at all. He was killing and striking people in full bullet proof armor and tanking falls from buildings and hits from cars. I don't see how Batfleck with his showings against humans is even close.

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Jesus Christ it’s been twenty years. Stop forcing the Gotham knights nonsense on us. Those feats obviously don’t make sense when you watch the subsequent live action movies.

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#17  Edited By thelocust619

Hey thanks you guys, I couldn't chime in but it was an interesting read when I had chances.

Id like to add that Keaton is mostly bulletproof, has seemingly easily blocked a bullet with his wrist blades after it was fired, and punched through the floor of the Batmobile. Dude's pretty extreme, even for a Wick character.

And Batfleck throwing that wooden crate with his grapnel is absolutely absurd if you think about how those forces are distributed along his body. Just looking at that makes my mid-back scream lol. Not to mention he doesn't seem to feel bullets much, even to the head.

Are we sure they can't do better?

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None but the comic versions can even beat 1. They'd get shot in the mouth before they hit him.

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@thelocust619:

I don't see Keaton hitting him, and as impressive as that is for Batfleck, Wick is too fast, vastly more skilled and brutal and has the durability to tank his best punches.

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#20  Edited By thelocust619

@infinitemass: Fair points.

...although the fact he can't move his neck or body very far might double as some mild joint-lock resistance lol

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#21  Edited By frozen  Moderator
@thelocust619 said:

Hey thanks you guys, I couldn't chime in but it was an interesting read when I had chances.

Id like to add that Keaton is mostly bulletproof, has seemingly easily blocked a bullet with his wrist blades after it was fired, and punched through the floor of the Batmobile. Dude's pretty extreme, even for a Wick character.

And Batfleck throwing that wooden crate with his grapnel is absolutely absurd if you think about how those forces are distributed along his body. Just looking at that makes my mid-back scream lol. Not to mention he doesn't seem to feel bullets much, even to the head.

Are we sure they can't do better?

In Flash trailer, Keaton's cape and cowl are bulletproof against automatic machine guns.

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#22 frozen  Moderator

Yall need to put respect on Johns name lol, how is Bale Man or Batfleck beating one of him? Especially not Batfleck lol

Wick would beat either, but I'd put Baleman over Batfleck tbh. At least in H2H. Especially since it was confirmed that Baleman = Bane in strength.

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@frozen: I agree Baleman > Batfleck which is why I was surprised with people thought Batfleck would beat him better than Baleman.

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#24 frozen  Moderator

@frozen: I agree Baleman > Batfleck which is why I was surprised with people thought Batfleck would beat him better than Baleman.

Its because the choreography of BvS looks nice compared to Nolan and people fixate too much on dogs showing. But when you analyse the actual feats and scaling, I think Baleman is definitely superior.

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@frozen: For sure, the Nolan movies choreography is trash for the most part, but he showed beating established skilled opponents, as opposed to Batfleck who only beats nameless mercs and still gets tagged and injured.

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Id like to drop a couple things for Keaton that might make a difference, idk

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I'm having trouble loading the rest, but the dude falls multiple stories and just keeps fighting, throws a man through a church bell with his ankles, and no sell blocks a pretty long combo from a dude with 2 swords. Besides regularly throwing guys/himself through wooden stairs, walls, doors, ect.

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Baleman with Gotham Knight Feats -> Couple of Dozens of Wick ... W/o Gotham Knight feats -> Zero or at most 2.

Burtonman -> 3 to Wick

Baffleck -> 8-10 at least

Bruce Wayne with simple suit -> Many Dozens of Wick at least

Full Gear, Modern DC Comics Batman -> Hundreds.

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@utkanflash: How? John is faster than all of them and a much better fighter, how do they take him on? Except for DC Batman, non of the Live Action Batman show the ability to stop John Wick

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@infinitemass: what are John's speed feats exactly? I've only seen the first 2 films and nothing stood out to me as all that crazy or significantly faster than what the Batmen have shown. Keaton has a feat of blocking a bullet, and the majority of them have blatantly bulletproof armor.

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@a_fine_edition: Ahh that's the issue, his best feats come from his last 2 movies, especially in the last movie where he kills over 20 soldiers equipped in full bullet proof armor.

The Keaton Feat he didn't block a bullet after it was fired, he actually lifts his arm before he shoots, its just because its 2 scenes spliced together like they did with a lot of those older movies.

John Disappears multiple times while in front of people, straight up Comic book Batman type shit. He also stands above everyone in his universe, except for Cain, in pure Martial Arts.

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0, 0, 0, 0, maybe 1, 10.

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Jesus Christ it’s been twenty years. Stop forcing the Gotham knights nonsense on us. Those feats obviously don’t make sense when you watch the subsequent live action movies.

I can't help but agree. He doesn't really look like Bale, he's not voiced by Bale, several of the characters don't match up with their film counterparts (Sal Maroni and Scarecrow in particular) or are never even mentioned in the films (Killer Croc), and Batman is way more armored. His cape straight up deflects bullets and is completely fireproof in one of the stories, whereas Bale's was a fabric that didn't seem to protect him from flames in Batman Begins. He no-sells a piece of wood and a bottle getting smashed over his head. Watching these shorts, I would have no idea they were meant to be connected to Nolans films.

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@infinitemass: I think the Keaton feat can be contested, but I’m not really willing to argue the point. Regardless, I had no idea Wick got that good. I really need to check out these next two films. I’ve been meaning to get caught up.

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@a_fine_edition: 3 is good, but 4 is just amazing, close second for my favorite in the series

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stalemate imo

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#36  Edited By The_Hajduk

Keaton is very underrated. He is a real bullet timer.

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@frozen said:
@advent_ said:

@frozen: Gotham Knight feats?

Anime set inbetween Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. We see him cut bullet in half and have force fields:

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Nice find. Baleman needs these feats with the crazy shit Batfleck and Keaton are getting up to

OT:

Bale defeating 1 Wick is debatable, 2 definitely put him down

Keaton takes 3-5 mainly due to his agility. In a direct fight, he doesn’t do much better than Bale.

Batfleck isn’t as agile, but hits with more than enough force to oneshot Wick. His suit can also likely tank his gunshots. 10-20

Comics Batman simply goes until he collapses from exhaustion, which might take days to weeks

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Wouldn't 1 Wick beat everybody except Comic Book Batman if you just give him the armor piercing slug rounds shotgun from john wick 3?

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@utkanflash: I checked my facts, and it still says John Beats every Live action batman

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@kryptonianking88: Batfleck doesn't hit hard enough to one shot wick what are you talking about?

And Wick is more agile than Keaton.

Bale is the best Batman with feats and still loses

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@infinitemass: his suit doesn’t increase his strength. So his feat of busting stone pillars was all him, Wick gets oneshotted

I highly doubt Wick is more agile than a guy with a grappling hook and pseudo-flight

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@kryptonianking88:

his suit doesn’t increase his strength. So his feat of busting stone pillars was all him, Wick gets oneshotted

That isn't strong enough to oneshot him, Wick took hard falls, gunshots, and getting hit by cars and didn't stop beating people. Literally in John Wick 2 hes hit by a car 4 different times and still beats down each enemy.

I highly doubt Wick is more agile than a guy with a grappling hook and pseudo-flight

Then you would be wrong, none of the Batman have impressive Combat feats except for Animated Batman and Comic book Batman.

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@frozen said:
@power_hunter said:

R1: Baleman At least 5

R2: Burtonman No idea

R3: Batfleck 15? Maybe more than 20

R4: Comic Bruce Wayne (bullet-resistant suit) Infinite

R5: Batman Infinite

If Baleman gets Gotham Knight feats, he can get quite OP.

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@infinitemass: sure, whatever :D awk....ward... Wick is simply nigh-peak human, Even the worst live action Batman (which is Baleman in 2nd and 3rd movies btw) is almost beyond that by feats, acheivements, accolades, reputation and portrayal.

Gotham already filled with super assassins (such as Deadshot, Deathstroke occasionaly, Red Hood when he was on bad side, and all League of Shadows, all high liutenants of that organisation and Ra's Al Ghul's himself is a better assassin than Wick.)

Keep wet dreamin ...

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@utkanflash: A peak human isn't getting hit by a car and continue to fight 10 or so guys, let alone 4 cars.

Gotham already filled with super assassins (such as Deadshot, Deathstroke occasionaly, Red Hood when he was on bad side, and all League of Shadows, all high liutenants of that organisation and Ra's Al Ghul's himself is a better assassin than Wick.)

Deathstroke hasn't been in the movies, neither has Red hood? Are you even talking about the right thing here? I said None of the Live action Batmans here have the feats to compete, please explain how?
Batfleck was tagged multiple times by mercenaries

Baleman is far slower than Wick and far less skilled at taking on opponents, plus Wick is far more deadlier and can Tank his best hits.

And BurtonMan is far less skilled and far weaker, and his bulletproof armor isn't helping considering Wick cleared a room with people all wearing bullet proof armor.

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@power_hunter: What feats does Baleman Or Batfleck have above John?

Nolan Batman

Took hits from Bane:

Broke Ra's sword easily:

No-sold busting a van:

Moved about a meter within the time it took an assault rifle to shoot twice:


Easily defeats 6 ninjas:

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Effortlessly defeated 17 thugs in 21 seconds:

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DCEU Batman:

Attack Potency:

Smashes Superman through multiple concrete columns:

Rips Firefly's metallic wings with raw strength casually:

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Durability:

Tanks hits from Superhuman Parademons:

Parademons are superhuman.

Tanks a slap from Superman, smashing the door of a police car:

Batman takes a point-blank explosion like nothing

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Speed

Blocks plasma blasts:

Crawls on a roof fast enough to avoid shots:

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@power_hunter: I can't see half of your feats, and why are you using comic book tie ins?

Regardless nothing you showed beats any of his feats from his last movie.

Majority of the Assassins he fights are suited in full bulletproof armor, and he kills multiple of them in the hotel scene

He Breaks a mans Neck

Kills over 430 People over 4 films, 3 of them took place within a week.

Has tanked Gun fire, and by the way he still feels every hit from each bullet.

Head shots 7 people before they can draw their gun

Disappears from right in front of another Master Assassin(Twice) after fighting a building of fully armored soldiers

Kills 5 people with a katana while fighting on a motorcycle

Actually has enough stamina to outlast any of the batman

John Tanked falling onto a Van without a special suit to protect them, and still went up a hill to kill about 20 more assassins

None of the Batmen have faced anything near the amount of people John has.