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Poll Kratos vs Avengers Assemble Thor (63 votes)

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Pretty sure this Thor has scaling to the likes of Doctor Spectrum, who was a actual legit planet busting force. Way too much for Kratos.

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@ganon15: please state only feats in games and no "lore" Kratos. Otherwise people will say that it is a mismatch and say that he is universa/multiversal

Pretty sure this Thor has scaling to the likes of Doctor Spectrum, who was a actual legit planet busting force. Way too much for Kratos.

Yeah this animation has some great feats like Hulk pushing tectonic plates together or Thor creating tidal waves that could destroy new york by hitting barda a considerable distance away

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Kratos solos the entire Avengers

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@asgardianweapon: Yeah it's surprising how much they were able to get away with in terms of big fancy feats and visuals.

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Just EMH Thor would be better

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Kratos does a hulk hogan leg drop on Thor and accidently solos the other avengers with shockwaves.

Attempting to Separating “Lore” Kratos is Cope. Kratos is low multiversal.

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Kratos does a hulk hogan leg drop on Thor and accidently solos the other avengers with shockwaves.

Attempting to Separating “Lore” Kratos is Cope. Kratos is low multiversal.

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This Thor stomps. EMH Thor would make this a better fight

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Probably, Kratos

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#16  Edited By rajjarsalt  Online
@mr-yes said:
@allfugger said:

Kratos does a hulk hogan leg drop on Thor and accidently solos the other avengers with shockwaves.

Attempting to Separating “Lore” Kratos is Cope. Kratos is low multiversal.

No, you have to be fair. Either no lore for Kratos, or lore for Thor as well!

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#17  Edited By MaulSmacker
@mr-yes said:
@allfugger said:

Kratos does a hulk hogan leg drop on Thor and accidently solos the other avengers with shockwaves.

Attempting to Separating “Lore” Kratos is Cope. Kratos is low multiversal.

This, there is no such thing as lore, just canon, and people make the term up to become ignorant of feats and plot of the games and put Kratos lower then he actually is.
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#19  Edited By rajjarsalt  Online
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@rajjarsalt: what's lore for Thor?

Lore for AA Thor is expansive as it draws upon EMH continuity (shown in AA flashback) and his appearance in GotG show as well. Here's the little I know about it.

In AA, Odin says no one's hit him like Hulk did since Surtur. Surtur back in EMH has on-panel feats like busting a solar system and shaking a nebula, which are physical feats performed by him forging his sword.

And AA Thor is considered to be superior to AA Hulk by right of denting his skull with Mjolnir and giving him brain damage.

Yggrasil/Nine Realms is just too big in this Marvel verse and IIRC there's a feat of Thor taking a blast from the World Tree's seed.

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too big a power disparity, Kratos vapes. funny how the same character nuking a SS and shaking a nebulae is an acceptable feat but the same exact character (different variant) nuking a universe and shaking the multiverse to roots is lore, kek.

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too big a power disparity, Kratos vapes. funny how the same character nuking a SS and shaking a nebulae is an acceptable feat but the same exact character (different variant) nuking a universe and shaking the multiverse to roots is lore, kek.

They are acceptable feats because they are feats. Whereas the lore is lore because it comes from the gossip squirrel.

Stoke thy rage 'pon Surtur's frothing fires!

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#22  Edited By tagsorwhatever
@rajjarsalt said:
@tagsorwhatever said:

too big a power disparity, Kratos vapes. funny how the same character nuking a SS and shaking a nebulae is an acceptable feat but the same exact character (different variant) nuking a universe and shaking the multiverse to roots is lore, kek.

They are acceptable feats because they are feats. Whereas the lore is lore because it comes from the gossip squirrel.

Stoke thy rage 'pon Surtur's frothing fires!

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did Gossip squirrel (say the name) make Asgard get engulfed in flames and be, ya know, destroyed?

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Gossip squirrel just confirmed the aftermath.

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#23  Edited By rajjarsalt  Online
@tagsorwhatever said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@tagsorwhatever said:

too big a power disparity, Kratos vapes. funny how the same character nuking a SS and shaking a nebulae is an acceptable feat but the same exact character (different variant) nuking a universe and shaking the multiverse to roots is lore, kek.

They are acceptable feats because they are feats. Whereas the lore is lore because it comes from the gossip squirrel.

Stoke thy rage 'pon Surtur's frothing fires!

did Gossip squirrel (say the name) make Asgard get engulfed in flames and be, ya know, destroyed?

Gossip squirrel just confirmed the aftermath.

The landmass that is Asgard was engulfed in flames, indeed!

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#24  Edited By tagsorwhatever
@rajjarsalt said:
@tagsorwhatever said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@tagsorwhatever said:

too big a power disparity, Kratos vapes. funny how the same character nuking a SS and shaking a nebulae is an acceptable feat but the same exact character (different variant) nuking a universe and shaking the multiverse to roots is lore, kek.

They are acceptable feats because they are feats. Whereas the lore is lore because it comes from the gossip squirrel.

Stoke thy rage 'pon Surtur's frothing fires!

No Caption Provided

did Gossip squirrel (say the name) make Asgard get engulfed in flames and be, ya know, destroyed?

Loading Video...

Gossip squirrel just confirmed the aftermath.

The landmass that is Asgard was engulfed in flames, indeed!

Both prophecy sequences show Surtur breaking a physical, spherical world as well

lol bro changed the goalpost

Sphere are used to represent realms so don't know what you wanted showed

and nah the entire realm of asgard was engulfed and destroyed, nobody states otherwise.

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AA Thor unless you take lore kratos

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@mr-yes said:
@allfugger said:

Kratos does a hulk hogan leg drop on Thor and accidently solos the other avengers with shockwaves.

Attempting to Separating “Lore” Kratos is Cope. Kratos is low multiversal.

This, there is no such thing as lore, just canon, and people make the term up to become ignorant of feats and plot of the games and put Kratos lower then he actually is.
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@mr-yes said:
@allfugger said:

Kratos does a hulk hogan leg drop on Thor and accidently solos the other avengers with shockwaves.

Attempting to Separating “Lore” Kratos is Cope. Kratos is low multiversal.

This, there is no such thing as lore, just canon, and people make the term up to become ignorant of feats and plot of the games and put Kratos lower then he actually is.
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@nixtollo said:
@maulsmacker said:
@mr-yes said:
@allfugger said:

Kratos does a hulk hogan leg drop on Thor and accidently solos the other avengers with shockwaves.

Attempting to Separating “Lore” Kratos is Cope. Kratos is low multiversal.

This, there is no such thing as lore, just canon, and people make the term up to become ignorant of feats and plot of the games and put Kratos lower then he actually is.
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Why do people separate lore and games? Feats are feats.

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@calclord said:

Why do people separate lore and games? Feats are feats.

I believe it is so , Technically Kratos who's>/=Zeus>>Titans>>Primordials should then be ridiculously high levels..such as Universal or something.,

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Why do people separate lore and games? Feats are feats.

So what are his actual feats then? Did he ever destroy a galaxy or a universe or even a planet?

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You should probably check the source before sending it. I can't open a single scan in that thread and most links aren't working either. Although maybe it's just some issue on my side. Still, from the looks of it, that thread is just another scalling fest, with nothing concrete. I was asking for actual clear feats of Kratos destroying anything on a galactic/universal scale, or at least any celestial object. After years of arguing with Kratos fans, I am still yet to see any actual feat for Kratos on that level

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#35  Edited By MaulSmacker

don't know why you even care when 98% of the material is in links and the images there were purely for aesthetics, your years of arguing are quite pointless tbh, because you don't even allow scaling and consider it uncredible, many characters are debated on scaling, the idea that X needs to do a feat on a level their inferior already achieved to be argued on that level is just an incorrect way to argue, thats like asking for proof Someone who can blitz bullet timers is a bullet timer himself, you can dislike scaling to other characters but can't blame someone for doing something literally every debater does, be it in games and anime or practically anything.

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@nixtollo said:
@maulsmacker said:
@mr-yes said:
@allfugger said:

Kratos does a hulk hogan leg drop on Thor and accidently solos the other avengers with shockwaves.

Attempting to Separating “Lore” Kratos is Cope. Kratos is low multiversal.

This, there is no such thing as lore, just canon, and people make the term up to become ignorant of feats and plot of the games and put Kratos lower then he actually is.
.

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What is mountain level Kratos suppose to do?

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#39  Edited By rajjarsalt  Online
@tagsorwhatever said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@tagsorwhatever said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@tagsorwhatever said:

too big a power disparity, Kratos vapes. funny how the same character nuking a SS and shaking a nebulae is an acceptable feat but the same exact character (different variant) nuking a universe and shaking the multiverse to roots is lore, kek.

They are acceptable feats because they are feats. Whereas the lore is lore because it comes from the gossip squirrel.

Stoke thy rage 'pon Surtur's frothing fires!

No Caption Provided

did Gossip squirrel (say the name) make Asgard get engulfed in flames and be, ya know, destroyed?

Loading Video...

Gossip squirrel just confirmed the aftermath.

The landmass that is Asgard was engulfed in flames, indeed!

Both prophecy sequences show Surtur breaking a physical, spherical world as well

lol bro changed the goalpost

Sphere are used to represent realms so don't know what you wanted showed

and nah the entire realm of asgard was engulfed and destroyed, nobody states otherwise.

Can you prove this statement? This might be new to the GoW fandom, but spheres are also used to represent planets.

Why is Kratos struggling to lift that rock at 4:00 mark?

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So what are his actual feats then? Did he ever destroy a galaxy or a universe or even a planet?

And what exactly do you think an "actual feat" is? Is consistently beating the snot out of characters who have countless "actual feats" like Zeus, Thor, Hades, Poseidon, Hercules and so on not an "actual feat" to you?

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What is mountain level Kratos suppose to do?

"Mountain level Kratos" goes head to head with beings that ate entire mountain ranges as pups, splintered constructs that hold the entire Norse cosmology and participated in a war that created the entire Greek reality.

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Kratos absolutely murders, not even a question.

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Kratos, I don’t think it’s all that close. Thor was fighting Surtr and Jormungandr solo, sent the latter back in time. Kratos Axe matched Mjolnir and that’s arguably not even his best weapon. Ultimately, I think Kratos wins here because he has a better arsenal.

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@eredin12 said:
@flameburn146 said:
@nixtollo said:
@maulsmacker said:
@mr-yes said:
@allfugger said:

Kratos does a hulk hogan leg drop on Thor and accidently solos the other avengers with shockwaves.

Attempting to Separating “Lore” Kratos is Cope. Kratos is low multiversal.

This, there is no such thing as lore, just canon, and people make the term up to become ignorant of feats and plot of the games and put Kratos lower then he actually is.
.

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@sonofsparda1366 said:

So what are his actual feats then? Did he ever destroy a galaxy or a universe or even a planet?

And what exactly do you think an "actual feat" is? Is consistently beating the snot out of characters who have countless "actual feats" like Zeus, Thor, Hades, Poseidon, Hercules and so on not an "actual feat" to you?

Well, an actual feat of someone destroying a planet or anything larger than that, instead of relying on a mile-long chain of scalling from some dubious statement. Something like this

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Can you provide such a feat for any of the guys you mentioned?

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@eredin12 said:
@flameburn146 said:
@nixtollo said:
@maulsmacker said:
@mr-yes said:
@allfugger said:

Kratos does a hulk hogan leg drop on Thor and accidently solos the other avengers with shockwaves.

Attempting to Separating “Lore” Kratos is Cope. Kratos is low multiversal.

This, there is no such thing as lore, just canon, and people make the term up to become ignorant of feats and plot of the games and put Kratos lower then he actually is.
.

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#47  Edited By tagsorwhatever

@tagsorwhatever said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@tagsorwhatever said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@tagsorwhatever said:

too big a power disparity, Kratos vapes. funny how the same character nuking a SS and shaking a nebulae is an acceptable feat but the same exact character (different variant) nuking a universe and shaking the multiverse to roots is lore, kek.

They are acceptable feats because they are feats. Whereas the lore is lore because it comes from the gossip squirrel.

Stoke thy rage 'pon Surtur's frothing fires!

No Caption Provided

did Gossip squirrel (say the name) make Asgard get engulfed in flames and be, ya know, destroyed?

Loading Video...

Gossip squirrel just confirmed the aftermath.

The landmass that is Asgard was engulfed in flames, indeed!

Both prophecy sequences show Surtur breaking a physical, spherical world as well

lol bro changed the goalpost

Sphere are used to represent realms so don't know what you wanted showed

and nah the entire realm of asgard was engulfed and destroyed, nobody states otherwise.

Can you prove this statement? This might be new to the GoW fandom, but spheres are also used to represent planets.

Why is Kratos struggling to lift that rock at 4:00 mark?

yea it's easy to prove, just go ro any of the realms and look at the nightsky, stars aren't a part of planets.

suppressed as he always is in the norse saga of things

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#48  Edited By IAmTheOneWhoKno

@tagsorwhatever: Those stars are clearly just small lights in the sky that aren't real stars, nice try.

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#49  Edited By rajjarsalt  Online
@tagsorwhatever said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@tagsorwhatever said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@tagsorwhatever said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@tagsorwhatever said:

too big a power disparity, Kratos vapes. funny how the same character nuking a SS and shaking a nebulae is an acceptable feat but the same exact character (different variant) nuking a universe and shaking the multiverse to roots is lore, kek.

They are acceptable feats because they are feats. Whereas the lore is lore because it comes from the gossip squirrel.

Stoke thy rage 'pon Surtur's frothing fires!

No Caption Provided

did Gossip squirrel (say the name) make Asgard get engulfed in flames and be, ya know, destroyed?

Loading Video...

Gossip squirrel just confirmed the aftermath.

The landmass that is Asgard was engulfed in flames, indeed!

Both prophecy sequences show Surtur breaking a physical, spherical world as well

lol bro changed the goalpost

Sphere are used to represent realms so don't know what you wanted showed

and nah the entire realm of asgard was engulfed and destroyed, nobody states otherwise.

Can you prove this statement? This might be new to the GoW fandom, but spheres are also used to represent planets.

Why is Kratos struggling to lift that rock at 4:00 mark?

yea it's easy to prove, just go ro any of the realms and look at the nightsky, stars aren't a part of planets.

suppressed as he always is in the norse saga of things

I just went outside and saw the night sky, you're saying the stars being out prove Midgard is not a planet, but a universe?

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#50  Edited By tagsorwhatever
@rajjarsalt said:
@tagsorwhatever said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@tagsorwhatever said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@tagsorwhatever said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@tagsorwhatever said:

too big a power disparity, Kratos vapes. funny how the same character nuking a SS and shaking a nebulae is an acceptable feat but the same exact character (different variant) nuking a universe and shaking the multiverse to roots is lore, kek.

They are acceptable feats because they are feats. Whereas the lore is lore because it comes from the gossip squirrel.

Stoke thy rage 'pon Surtur's frothing fires!

No Caption Provided

did Gossip squirrel (say the name) make Asgard get engulfed in flames and be, ya know, destroyed?

Loading Video...

Gossip squirrel just confirmed the aftermath.

The landmass that is Asgard was engulfed in flames, indeed!

Both prophecy sequences show Surtur breaking a physical, spherical world as well

lol bro changed the goalpost

Sphere are used to represent realms so don't know what you wanted showed

and nah the entire realm of asgard was engulfed and destroyed, nobody states otherwise.

Can you prove this statement? This might be new to the GoW fandom, but spheres are also used to represent planets.

Why is Kratos struggling to lift that rock at 4:00 mark?

yea it's easy to prove, just go ro any of the realms and look at the nightsky, stars aren't a part of planets.

suppressed as he always is in the norse saga of things

I just went outside and saw the night sky, you're saying the stars being out prove Midgard is not a planet, but a universe?

Nah, just said the presence of stars in the realms prove they extend beyond just planets, like stars existing in a dimension would prove its not just a planet.