MoM Scarlet Witch vs Snydercut Superman (Read OP)

Lets end this debate once and for all,

Both are bloodlusted, Superman killed Vision and told her that her life was a lie and that she doesn’t have any kids (House of M style) and then Superman saw Wanda killing Lois and Martha in the most gruesome way.

Both at full power and to the best of their abilities.

Win condition : Death

Superman statues and oneshots. There is no way around that.

^

Clark’s only win condition is a blitz and he needs to do it ASAP. As soon as he gives Wanda an opening, it’s over.

Superman bullrushes into her auto shield which blocks a Captain MARVEL level bullrush then kills him in his mind like she did Professor X.

simple as

@gas777: This. End Thread.

@angeljax: He statued Diana for almost a minute. Saying he needs to do it ASAP here is hilarious. He has all the time he needs to paste her.

@gorr: She reacted to photon blasts several times. Plus auto shields to boot. Most people on CV that Wanda stomps/reacts to Diana btw. So yeah, Clark better bullrush and abuse all the stats he can, like I said. Wanda has more ways to win than he does.

Wanda oneshots in numerous ways. Superman can't kill her.

MoM was a mistake

Wanda wins..

Reacting to her speedster kid, her speedster brother, and CMs bullrush and CMs phton blats proves she can react, her TK shields that can stop Thanos blade can stop Supeeman in his tracks anyways.

She blinks Superman, Really Warp, TP or ripping him apart limb from limb with her uru/vibranium busting TK are all easy options for her.

TK

She broke Thanos sword, held back Thanos with infinity stones, and ripped out vibranium Ultrons heart.

TP

All these people had resistance to mind control, and she beat all.. Thor in particular resisted the Norns.

I think they said "this one is strong...he resists us" or something (Shout out to Raj for that one)

She has also TPd soldiers, a town, and sokovia and broke Dr Cho free of the mind stone.

Reality Warp

Witches, wizards, and scientist’s all confirm it’s reality warp, and Wanda called the hex easy.

She warped BBs mouth, turned groups of people onto clowns and made a functioning vision from scratch.

Wanda has auto shields tho

Facts lmaoo. The ultimate chance to get this massive OP power up her fans were anticipating and Raimi happens…

Now the court lowkey open for another high-tier to take a layup.👀

Love the DCEU fanboys saying he blitzes when MOM Wanda has auto shields that can tank Captain MARVEL bullrush and break what appears to be Uru.

Face it, he gets swatted then TP'd into being her butler.

@heiqn said:

MCU Fans in a DCEU vs MCU battle - Maria IS a Carol level Captain Marvel.

MCU fans in a MCU vs MCU battle -Maria is fodder and IS NOT a Carol level Captain Marvel.

Now that's comedy.

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Superman is too strong and too fast. ZSJL Flash could not get the drop on him like hell Wanda is with her TK, TP or RW.

A serious Clark is way to fast.

@logicbomb: Maria is definitely not on Carol’s level

@akz:

Thank you buddy.

Wanda could probably rip Snydercut Clark apart like the Motherbox, if he didn’t turn her into paste before she could begin to react. Captain Marvel has no super speed combat feats on par with even Quicksilver from AoU, and this alternate Captain Marvel has even fewer applicable feats (NONE), so using either of them to scale to Clark’s combat (who casually statued Wonder Woman and kept up with the flash) is nonsense. If Clark abuses his speed it’s an instant win, if he doesn’t Wanda probably has a solid advantage.

Ye here’s the thing.. she reacted to speedsters(her son and brother and boner) and bullrush from Captain Marvel .. that shows intent.. shes not ment to be statued by speedsters... don’t come at me with MCU QS is slow, ok.. again this parag is just for the intent guys.. not the calc guys.. but intent she can react to speedsters and blitzes.

Now for the calc guys.. the number junkies.. the show me something quantifiable guys…Wanda has reacted to bullets(her son caught a bullet too) she has reacted to C4 explosions after they went off, she and she reacted to photon blasts in CQC.

By quantifiable feats, and by intent she can react to a bullrush from Supes just fine, she has shields that can block Thanos sword in any case.

Wanda stomps.

So.. Would you say 838 CM scales to 616? cause that would be bad for 616 CM.

Naw, but intent wise she’s still a comic hero flying from planet to planet.….….….intent.

And for the calc guys photons are photons……..quantifiable.

What I have said about Thor, is that he has like magical durability enchantments protecting him. Superman however is known for vulnerability to magic which might be his downfall.

Based on showings from MoM itself, Superman could bullrush through her shield and kill her. But that becomes less likely when when you use EG scaling.

Superman uses more bullrushes in MoS, while in Justice Leugue he's mostly a reactive fighter, so she could win if he's just standing waiting for her move with her reality warping spells. But she also doesn't fight well in character, what could happen is Superman sidesteps her attacks and bullrushes her from the side which is likely because she's not always holding up her strongest shield.

Knowledge of the others abilities may be important.

Nothing has changed. Statues don't fight back.

@akz:

Yeah. Superman gets statued

Except for the fact that Superman snaps Wanda's neck before she processes a single thought.

Oh ye another goat feat.
SW take this for sure.

@akz: After that, Superman proceeds to solo the MCU, unlike statue-level CM.

LOL!

@akz said:

Not sure how Superman's atoms would be split into "trillions of pieces" when Wanda isn't even capable of perceiving him in the first place. Superman still solos the verse, except for Arishem and Dormammu.

Reacted to speedsters, bullrushes, C4 explosions and phton blasts.

Superman isn’t blitzing shit.

^^ DCEU right now. ^^

Wanda doesn’t have a goddamn healing factor, that was mirror dimensions shenanigans. She had a limp for like 15 min of the movie , and she was killed by rocks falling on her. She can’t actually heal like that.

She healed on screen repeatedly,, I think (edit 3)separate times that I counted.

This one she clearly is cut comming out of the mirror dimension, and then heals… then she’s limping, but fine in the next scene.. etc etc… none of her wounds stick through the whole movie on either alt of Wanda. And we see wounds close onscreen.