Zatanna runs the Magic Challenge

Zatanna

New-52/Rebirth Zatanna RT

Rules

• Zatanna and all DC characters are Pre-52/New-52/Rebirth
• All Marvel characters are current/standard 616
• No Amps
• Only magic/sorcery-based powers are allowed
• Standard Gear
• In Character
• Victory by KO, death, or incap. BFR is allowed but does not count as a win.
• Battle takes place in a neutral dimension. Starting distance of 100 feet.

Challenge

***Note: this is NOT a gauntlet. State who she can beat and who she loses to.***

• Circe
• Dr Doom
• Dr Fate
• Dr Strange
• Enchantress (Marvel)
• John Constantine
• Loki
• Magik
• Raven
• Scarlet Witch

Rounds

Round 1: Random Encounter (no prep/knowledge)

Round 2: Basic Knowledge and 30 Minutes of Prep (on the battlefield)

Zatanna's inconsistent, so I can't really judge her on a consistent basis

Circe is 50/50 based on who gets momentum

Doom prob wins

Strange wins

Fate wins

Enchantress might win

Constantine loses

Loki might win if he's not stupid

Magik might win

Raven likely wins

Scarlet Witch loses

Honestly.....she loses to Fate, Strange (though really she's a better fighter), Classic Loki and Magik (only in the no knowledge round)

Everyone else just isn't really competeing at all....or in Circe's case just jobs too much

It's current/standard Loki, so not classic

Circe. Circe Wins

Dr Doom idk

Dr Fate Fate wins

Dr Strange idk

Enchantress (Marvel) Amora wins

John Constantine idk

Loki Loki Wins

Magik Magik stompa

Raven Raven Wins Pre Crisis Soul self has tanked worse

Scarlet Witch Zatanna wins

Circe- Zatanna

Dr Doom- Zatanna

Dr Fate- Fate

Dr Strange- 50/50

Enchantress (Marvel)- Zatanna easily

John Constantine- Zatanna easily

Loki- Loki lost to a much weaker version of Scarlet Witch, Zatanna should win decisively here

Magik- Zatanna pretty easily, the only issue is her sword

Raven- Zatanna in a good fight

Scarlet Witch- Zatanna easy

@emmafrostxmen: Hah. Enchantress has never used her full extent due to ambitions and CIS.

@sirkaboom11: this fight is “in character” therefore she will continue to not use her full “extent”

Read the OP please

@emmafrostxmen: Sigh, as in, her mind power is insane. It just gets undermined due to her ambitions. Also, don't leave an argument just because you're losing. This is the second time I've seen you do it.

@sirkaboom11: you said: “ Enchantress has never used her full extent due to ambitions and CIS“

She will continue to do this here because the fight is “in character”. Her potential doesn’t matter here

@emmafrostxmen: I you actually read what I said for once, you would know that I said that she could do it, she has just never been in a situation where she could.

@sirkaboom11: yes and she will continue to be in that situation here.

Zatanna is also faster than her and has frozen people like Despero

Despero >>>>>>>>>>> Enchantress

@emmafrostxmen: Read axis, then debate with me.

Let's be real here: she's got hundreds of spells to throw out, and that's one she's not used very consistently, if at all. I get you like the high end stuff, but we can't just go to that when she's in character and acting normally.

Despero also has zero defences against magic, and has no experience using it.

@professorrespect: that isn’t even Zatanna’s best feat

Her best feat is stalemating someone who was able to stalemate Spectre

Freezing Despero is not her “high end”

Stopping a teambuster is high end for her, frankly. The point is that you use consistency when judging a character.

she loses to fate,strange and gets stomped by loki

@professorrespect: I'm not saying enchantress would win, I'm saying it wouldn't be a curbstomp. And sorry if I sound angry, I've been in a very one-sided argument for the past twenty minutes.

@professorrespect: it’s not her best feat is my point.

Zatanna has casually blasted away Superman, Wonder Woman, and a bunch of other league members away at the same time

Her freezing Despero is in line with her character. She has also been able to summon Spectre against his will which even impressed him. She is consistent

@emmafrostxmen: Justifying high ends with a high end and referring to Spectre, who's very inconsistent, isn't very impressive and doesn't support your argument very much.

I imagine this'll be the continuous nature of this debate, so I'll not bother. Don't really care tbh

@professorrespect: Zatanna is still consistently above Enchantress...nothing you’ve said will change that

Enchantress was fodderized by Classic Scarlet Witch....Classic Scarlet Witch can’t even use magic. Zatanna would do the same, except to a larger extent

To my knowledge, Circe should stomp Zatanna, i think she fought the entire JL and easily controlled Superman and even beat Martian Manhunter, she can also give herself similar stats to Wonder Woman with her magic.

I can see her defeating Dr Doom, Enchantress and Constantine

50/50 with Wanda leaning towards zatanna tho

That is due to the nature of Wanda’s powers, not because of Amora’s incompetence. And I can name times where Amora has had her own victories against Wanda.

Does this help her case against Zatanna? Not really. But using Classic Wanda is a not a very good example.

Wanda STOMPS Zatanna, LOL

LOL no

@geekryan: Don't worry. Wanda will hold back. Even if Wanda kills her accidentally, she will resurrect her again. Wanda will defeat Zatanna in a magical stomp.

If Wanda holds back even just a little bit, Zatanna will wreck her.

Look at how all the other people who commented on this thread all agree that Zatanna would beat Wanda

@geekryan: Zatanna won't even have the time to react, before Wanda instantly warps her out of existance.

That's why Wanda is very underrated, especially in comicvine.

She isn't underrated. People like you just wank her lol.

Zatanna is faster than Wanda. She has reacted to Despero, who is MFTL via scaling to Martian Manhunter, Superman, and Flash

@geekryan: Wanda is very underrated.

In which comic has Zatanna reacted to Despero. And why did you scale him to Martian Manhunter, Superman, and the Flash?

Because Despero was able to keep up with the Justice League and he was owning them, and they are all MFTL in speed.

Zatanna has also reacted to Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Swamp Thing, and more.

@geekryan: In which comic that shows Despero is able to keep up with the Justice League? In which comic that shows Despero has owned them? In which comic that shows that they are all MFTL in speed?

In which comic that shows Zatanna has reacted to Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, and Swamp Thing? In which comic that shows Zatanna has reacted to Despero?

Oh yeah, Wanda is more consistent with all of her feats.

• Circe 0/10
• Dr Doom 6/10
• Dr Fate 2/10
• Dr Strange 2/10
• Enchantress (Marvel) 5/10
• John Constantine 5/10
• Loki 5/10
• Magik 7/10
• Raven 4/10
• Scarlet Witch 5/10

@emmafrostxmen: loki has never lost to Scarlet witch. In fact he has embarrassed Scarlet witch twice.,once just his astral form was too much for wanda to challenge,Debate me and get owned. Not my fault. And in no way is this chick beating loki. Loki especially current is a casual cosmic level reality warper

Blatant lie. Loki got owned by an immensely weaker version of Wanda that could only use hexes.

@emmafrostxmen:

isn't that Heroes reborn? yes it is 1996 heroes reborn Avengers vol2 #1 and she only managed to bfr loki here ,meh,loki was not concentrating on her and was about to bfr thor to limbo before wanda deflect the spells intended for thor back at loki. how is beating loki? loki addressed this couple pages later, he was not expecting wanda in that moment.

After all these,loki showed superiority to wanda and does not consider her a threat,even wanda stated she is afraid to face Loki's Astral form(just small fraction of his power mind you) ,in fact she is no threat to loki

also this was from year 2000. Avengers domination factor #2 so it is more recent compared to your scan lol from 1996... Loki stomps wanda,deal with it, she can't beat him

@nicolascagegod said:

@dami24434 said:

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Who drew those legs? She looks atleast 7 ft. Tall lmao

Rob Liefeld

@dami24434 said:

@nicolascagegod said:

@dami24434 said:

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Who drew those legs? She looks atleast 7 ft. Tall lmao

Rob Liefeld

Ah so it's the master of distorted Anatomy himself...

@nicolascagegod: lol. Facts

@dami24434: Wanda being scared doesn’t mean anything actually. Superman doesn’t want to fight Martian Manhunter, but that doesn’t mean he would lose.

Wanda has already proved she can effortlessly just turn his spells back on him...that’s all you need. That Wanda was a million times weaker than current Wanda

Wanda will stomp Zatanna.

@emmafrostxmen: loki has shown superiority to current wanda too, he was able to teleport her and score of magicians against their will with a thought and erase their Magical bar. lol , you kept saying wanda was weaker but back then so was loki, that was before god of stories and meeting with the children of eternity.

Zatanna can't beat Wanda.

@josh983: You've said that 3 times in less than a week. Get a life lol

@geekryan: I already got a life. We all have a life.