People relying on Toneri Moon slicing feat when Naruto had a more impressive feat earlier in film
In the fact the Tenseigan Golden Sphere is a orb of huge chakra that can move the moon and survive the moon being destroyed. Toneri says even if the moon is destroyed they will be safe thanks to the chakra of golden sphere, as his own Tenseigan hadn’t manifested yet.
Hinata who received a portion of Hamura chakra planned on destroying the Golden Sphere but we know Hinata is fodder even with this chakra, so the boost would’ve made her stronger than the boost she received from 4th War BM Naruto But not that much more.
Then Naruto helps her with uncloaked rasengan, combining their attack they destroy The Golden Sphere. But we should know that majority of naruto chakra is responsible as Hinata couldn’t even dent the Golden Sphere by herself. So uncloaked Naruto Rasengan can destroy something that has Moon level durability
Naruto later battles Tenseigan cloak Toneri who could move the moon himself with his own Tenseigan and fight Naruto stimutaneously at same time. Toneri even stalemated a serious Rasengan from a fully cloaked Naruto when a non fully cloak Naruto Rasengan destroyed the original golden sphere that can survive moon being destroyed.
The last naruto AP >>> Tenseigan Toneri AP >>> Golden Sphere Durability >>> Moon level AP
Naruto and Toneri should scale to Moon+ level
And I don’t wanna stack but SPSM is stronger than BSM
How is it an outlier when this happens two years later with Naruto having two power boosts, another half of Kurama plus Hashirama cells, and has no contradiction since this is Naruto strongest appearance till date. I don't count adult Naruto since he is part of the Bortuo cast and we know how they have been treating the adult characters.
How do we know that when no one is sure how strong is Momoshiki or anyone in Boruto. You are just deciding that Naruto isn't this strong because two years before he was at this level and this is the level he should be. Like Naruto didn't just received a powerup or didn't train with his new powers. You know that in the war he only got them so two years with them is a long time.
2.) We can't assume things without evidence, show me some evidence that backs up planetary Naruto aside from this because we are assuming it's a outlier and trying to validate it.
@decaffeinated: How is it an outlier? Your only reason to say this is an outlier is because Boruto. That's it. If this movie was the last and nothing happened, you would have no excuse to deny it. Boruto power levels aren't well defined and have been a mess since the start so really you either just accept this or not.
Regardless the fact that Momoshiki died to a rasengan while Kaguya didn't to a rasenshurikens should show the massive change. The rasengan killed him, destroyed mountains, destroyed the shinju stump.
That's a lot of damage for a rasengan so even if you don't want to call Naruto a planet level, there is no way he is still on continental level.
Oh, yeah. I didn't see the reply option and thought it wasn't possible on the phone.
So really no actual proof, just clear bias. The whole plot of this event rested on these things so you can't just dismiss it since its integral to the future. I don't really care what you guys think since I already felt that people here have been cherry picking from the beginning. You accept it or not doesn't matter to me.
@kingblazeghost: wow, that's the dumbest answer I heard. Hinata attacked and it did nothing. There you go showing your.poor comprehension and talking about something you have no idea about. Naruto borrowed Hinata's help and then attacked it, destroying it. Unless you want to believe that Hinata suddenly became continental level or something, this whole feats is for Naruto. The curse only absorbs chakra while the barrier stops the damage and protects the castle.
@kingblazeghost: dude are you actually understanding the point. The barrier that Naruto destroyed would survive planetary destruction and Naruto broke it. He didn't use Hinata's chakra, he mixed his chakra with Hinata so that he could attack it. You can easily tell he was using his chakra since it's golden in color unlike the dark purple of Hinata.
An outlier is when a character does something that's above their normal power level, so yes you need consistent evidence that the character is on said level.
@decaffeinated: outlier is when a character does something big but next time you see him, he can't do anything close to it or if Naruto had done this after a few weeks. That would make it an outlier since throughout the war he hadn't shown anything on this level. You are saying to accept that Naruto didn't grow in power after the war after having gained new power ups and training time. It's clear cut that Naruto was growing in power and he never reached his limits since he is still young. Also no need to reply since you are just going to repeat.
I am not whining about this since I just wanted to know why people ignore it. It barely gets mentioned in debates and only the moon slice gets brought even though that's the inferior feat.
@kingblazeghost: dude are you actually understanding the point. The barrier that Naruto destroyed would survive planetary destruction and Naruto broke it. He didn't use Hinata's chakra, he mixed his chakra with Hinata so that he could attack it. You can easily tell he was using his chakra since it's golden in color unlike the dark purple of Hinata.
Planetary destruction has nothing to do with Hinata's chakra
Because of the curse, you need Hinata's chakra to destroy it no matter what
An outlier is when a character does something that's above their normal power level, so yes you need consistent evidence that the character is on said level.
No you don't. Not after a time skip. Time skips speak for themselves that improvement and training is done over time, since that's typically the case with time skips(Naruto: The Last) with characters coming back stronger than they were. Ergo, it ain't an outlier. Especially combined with the fact that Naruto's base rasengan sent Momoshiki to space, and he stopped a beam that sliced the moon in half.
An outlier is Boruto jumping in between Isshiki and Sasuke while Isshiki was in the middle of stabbing him, he has prior feats from the same arc that contradict that and show you exactly what level he's at.
Boruto doing that isn't an outlier lmao it would be PIS but even then it's not PIS because the manga clearly shows Isshiki not even moving the blade untill Boruto is already on top of Sasuke.
That boi Toneri was wearing a tenseigan chakra cloak, correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure its the same chakra which was gonna protect his castle from moon & earths impact and Naruto legit one shotted him in BSM.
The Golden Tenseigan has at least regular Moon lv Durability as it can survive Naruto Moon being destroyed and it is 14% Hollow. So it takes something much stronger than nuking 14% Hollow Moon to destroy Golden Tenseigan.
Naruto not even fully cloak destroyed it with Rasengan. Even accounting Hinata who is fodder to Naruto, it wouldn’t make a difference if she added on her power. Naruto fully cloaked Rasengan stalemated Toneri Blast. So Tenseigan Toneri and BSM Naruto AP are over Moon level.
Boruto doing that isn't an outlier lmao it would be PIS but even then it's not PIS because the manga clearly shows Isshiki not even moving the blade untill Boruto is already on top of Sasuke.
Toneri Moon slicing feat Is country level. That thing would be an outlier. No one except Kaguya’s ETSB is planet level and that is vía statement.
You can't just not accept facts simply because you choose to think old statements still apply. Especially when they were said before new characters were introduced like Toneri.
@naruto_buster: You said it's an outlier, I told you you can't just choose not to accept facts. I'm not seeing why you don't understand the exchange. It's simple.
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