The Best of Anakin Skywalker (RotS) - A Legends Respect Thread [With Some Canon Material]

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As a character with such vast amounts of material, making a complete respect thread for Anakin Skywalker would not be possible. However, I am compiling a list of quotes that prove Anakin's exceptional nature. I am primarily compiling accolades, although I will consider adding in exceptional feats as well. Ideally, things will be supported by more than one quote, and preferably from more than once source, if possible. In that way, certain claims about Anakin will become irrevocably cemented as fact and will not be able to be dismissed in the forums.

Additions are welcome - tell me in the comments if I've missed anything. As suggested by the title, this will be a referring to Legends, although some of it is applicable to canon (basically anything that's supplementary to the movies). A few canon sources have also been drawn on, but they are all supplementary to points already made in Legends material. I would like to thank @darthant66 for finding much of the material below.

Note: I am generally willing to take in accolades referring to Anakin at any time, but will only be including his feats from Revenge of the Sith.

Respect Anakin Skywalker, the Chosen One:

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Power

Anakin has unprecedented power in the Force, making him the most powerful Force user in history:

This makes Anakin, in effect, a Jedi Master, a rank that Anakin, with his unprecedented power in the Force, feels has been long overdue.

Source: Star Wars Miniatures: Ultimate Missions: Revenge of the Sith

Anakin Skywalker is the most powerful Jedi in history:

This is Anakin Skywalker:

The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace.

He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Gillard also reports that the duel will explain how Obi-Wan is able to defeat his protege, even though Anakin has been established as the most powerful Jedi who ever lived.

Source: The Making of Revenge of the Sith

"Fully defeated by just anyone, the dark side cannot be, but only by the Chosen One. And who might be this Jedi? Know I do not, but not yet born is he or she. This much, sense I can. A vessel of pure Force the Chosen One will be, more powerful than any Jedi in history."

Source: Jedi vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force

Even after all these months, she couldn't make herself entirely believe that actual Jedi blood ran in her veins-not only Jedi blood, but the blood of arguably the most powerful Jedi in history.

Source: Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor

Anakin is the most powerful Jedi in more than a millennium:

Anakin Skywalker is the most powerful Jedi in over a thousand years.

Source: Star Wars Miniatures: Ultimate Missions: Revenge of the Sith

Anakin is the most powerful Jedi of his time, and still growing in strength:

At nine years of age he had been an expert Podracer; by twenty-one he would have been a galactic champion. With or without Qui-Gon's or Watto's help, he would eventually have won the Boonta Eve race, and his reputation would have been made. He would have bought freedom for himself, his mother, all the slaves in Mos Espa, gone on to win the Grand Races on Malastare, been hailed in the gambling casinos on Ord Mantell and Coruscant. He wouldn't have become a Jedi--he would have been too old to train--would never have learned to wield a lightsaber. But he would have been able to fly rings around the finest of Jedi pilots, including Saesee Tiin.

And he still would have been stronger in the Force than any of them.

Source: Labyrinth of Evil

"Skywalker is arguably the most powerful Jedi alive, and he is still getting stronger."

Source: Revenge of the Sith

"We won't try, Anakin. We will do. After all, they are only Senators. Most of them couldn't hide what they're thinking from a brain-damaged blindworm, let alone the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy."

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Obi-Wan Kenobi has endured the unenviable task of training the Jedi Order's most powerful and headstrong young Jedi, Anakin Skywalker.

Source: Star Wars Miniatures: Ultimate Missions: Revenge of the Sith

One of the most powerful Jedi Knight of his time, Anakin was prophesized to bring balance to the Force. Some members of the Jedi Council distrusted his immense power and emotion.

Source: Force Collection

The Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker is the greatest hero of a Republic at war and has proved his bravery on many battlefields.

Source: The Clone Wars: Visual Guide

Anakin is one of the most powerful Jedi in history:

Anakin Skywalker's rise to power was astonishing. He went from being a slave on Tatooine to one of the most powerful Jedi ever.

Source: Force Collection

Re-live the incredible battle between two of the most powerful Jedi of all - as they fight to the finish on a Trade Federation Cruiser!

Source: Battle Arena: Federation Cruiser

Anakin Skywalker grows vastly more powerful after Ahsoka Tano leaves the Jedi Order:

But Ahsoka eventually became disillusioned and left the Jedi Order, an act which Anakin regretted.

The Clone Wars continued, and Anakin became a hero and grew vastly in power.

Source: http://www.starwars.com/databank/anakin-skywalker

Anakin is more powerful than anyone on the Jedi Council as of Revenge of the Sith - including the likes of Yoda, Mace Windu, Obi-Wan Kenobi, and so on:

Clearly Anakin was as strong in the Force as any Jedi who had ever sat on the Council.

Source: Labyrinth of Evil

"What? How can you do this? This is outrageous! It’s unfair! I’m more powerful than any of you. How can you be on the Council and not be a Master?"

"Take a seat, young Skywalker . . ."

...

Everything in his life had led to this point because Anakin Skywalker’s destiny had been subverted and warped by well-meaning but blind Masters, sending him off on a tangent to do a flawed Palpatine’s bidding instead of realizing his own full power.

I’m more powerful than any of you.

It was a boy’s expression of anger, but it was true.

Source: Legacy of the Force: Bloodlines

Darth Sidious concedes that Anakin is potentially more powerful than him:

"He is powerful. Potentially more powerful than even myself."

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Darths Sidious and Tyranus agree that Anakin Skywalker is the greatest Jedi alive:

"An embarrassment you can survive, Lord Tyranus. After all, he is the greatest Jedi alive, is he not?"

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Anakin is much more powerful than Count Dooku:

"Soon, I shall have a new apprentice. One far younger and more powerful."

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Sidious then turned his attention to Anakin Skywalker, knowing that young Skywalker was much stronger in the Force than Tyranus.

Source: The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia

Sidious bared his teeth, but only briefly. "Darth Tyranus knew what he risked, Lord Vader. If he had been stronger in the dark side, you would be dead, and he would be my right hand."

Source: Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader

Re-live the incredible battle between two of the most powerful Jedi of all - as they fight to the finish on a Trade Federation Cruiser! Only the strongest Jedi remains—will it be the light side or the dark side of the Force?

Source: Battle Arena: Federation Cruiser

Sidious is merely playing for time until he is ready to replace Tyranus with a new, more powerful apprentice, who will help him to achieve his ultimate aim: utter subjugation of the galaxy under Sith rule and the formation of a merciless new order — the Galactic Empire.

Source: Revenge of the Sith Incredible Cross-Sections

Anakin's power is compared to that of Zonama Sekot, a sentient planet:

The being projecting the image of Anakin Skywalker had all the resources of a planet behind it, yet still it radiated uncertainty. It was easy to believe that it was the child Luke's father had once been, enormously powerful, tempted by the dark side but still too young to know what was right or wrong.

Source: The New Jedi Order: Force Heretic III: Reunion

Anakin Skywalker's powers grow as he descends into the dark side:

"You have done well, my new apprentice. Do you feel your power growing?"

"Yes, my Master."

Source: Revenge of the Sith

He could feel his power growing, indeed. He had the measure of his “Master” already; not long after Palpatine shared the secret of Darth Plagueis’s discovery, their relationship would undergo a sudden … transformation.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

By this point, Anakin's Force abilities are unparalleled:

Palpatine elevated himself to the position of Emperor, and dispatched Vader as his ultimate enforcer. With his unparalleled Force abilities, Vader swept through the Jedi Temple.

Source: Databank (old): Darth Vader

Anakin Skywalker is immensely more powerful than Shaak Ti:

Shaak Ti was at the Jedi Temple when Vader attacked, and narrowly escaped death at the hands of the immensely more powerful Sith Lord.

Source: The Official Starships & Vehicles Collection #51

Anakin Skywalker's powers are boundless:

Skywalker was seduced by the dark side of the Force. His boundless abilities fueled a sense of pride that hastened his fall.

Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20110910222533/http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/darthvader/index.html

As Palpatine, he befriended Skywalker, becoming a close friend and a fatherly authority to a youthful warrior often confused by his seemingly boundless power and abilities he had at his disposal.

Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20110913045252/http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/darthsidious/index.html

Anakin's raw power is infinitely greater than even experienced Jedi Masters' expertise in the Force, even though Jedi Masters can unlock powerful secrets that few Jedi can even dream of comprehending:

The clone troopers are methodical, but Skywalker is merciless. He wields his lightsaber like a scythe, cutting down anyone foolish enough to get in his way. Even experienced Jedi Masters fall, for their expertise in the Force is nothing before the raw power Anakin can unleash.

Source: Star Wars Miniatures: Ultimate Missions: Revenge of the Sith

A deep understanding of the Force is a must, for a Jedi Master is able to unlock powerful secrets that few Jedi even dream of comprehending.

Source: Threats of the Galaxy

George Lucas claims that Anakin is "as strong as" Palpatine at this point:

"From then on, he wasn't as strong as the Emperor – he was like Darth Maul or Count Dooku. He wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that."

Source: http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/george-lucas-and-the-cult-of-darth-vader-20050602

Anakin Skywalker is stated to be at the peak of his powers prior to his defeat on Mustafar, indicating his superiority to the suited Darth Vader:

An epic duel made impossible by time. The fully grown Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker crosses lightsabers with Anakin Skywalker before his brutal defeat on Mustafar. Both Skywalkers are at the peak of their powers.

Source: Star Wars Head-to-Head

Anakin Skywalker lost a considerable amount of power upon entering his cybernetic suit, implying that he is far more powerful than the suited Darth Vader:

Now he's half-machine and half-man so he's lost a lot of the power of the Force and a lot of his ability to become more powerful than the Emperor.

Source: The Empire Strikes Back DVD Commentary

"Anakin, as Skywalker, as a human being, was going to be extremely powerful,” he says. “But he ended up losing his legs and an arm and became partly a robot. So a lot of his ability to use the Force, a lot of his powers, are curbed at this point, because, as a living form, there’s not that much of him left. So his ability to be twice as good as the Emperor disappeared, and now he’s maybe 20 percent less than him.

Source: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2005/02/star-wars-george-lucas-story

"You got it. And when he finds out Luke is his son, his first impulse is to figure out a way of getting him to join him to kill the Emperor. That's what Siths do! He tries it with anybody he thinks might be more powerful, which is what the Emperor was looking for in the first place: somebody who would be more powerful than he was and could help him rule the universe. But Obi-Wan screwed that up by cutting off his arms and legs and burning him up. From then on, he wasn't as strong as the Emperor – he was like Darth Maul or Count Dooku. He wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that."

Source: http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/george-lucas-and-the-cult-of-darth-vader-20050602

In other words, the skill and power that Anakin shows as a young man is greater than what we see in the classic films. As Vader, Anakin is more machine than man, and being a half-droid construct has seriously hampered his lightsaber prowess.

Source: Insider #72

Under Palpatine's supervision, surgical droids transformed Vader's mutilated body into an armored cyborg. Although the Dark Lord was entirely dependent on his armor's life support systems, and his formidable powers were drastically reduced by his injuries, he remained strong with the Force for the rest of his life.

Source: Star Wars Blueprints — The Ultimate Collection

Darth Vader was encased in sinister black armor. The man underneath was mortally wounded in a lightsaber duel, and the dark suit includes extensive machinery to keep Vader alive. The sounds of his mechanical lungs accompany his every step. Such injuries greatly diminished his ability to use the Force, but Vader is still very powerful.

Source: Star Wars Encyclopedia — Darth Vader

And you rage and scream and reach through the Force to crush the shadow who has destroyed you, but you are so far less now than what you were, you are more than half machine, you are like a painter gone blind, a composer gone deaf, you can remember where the power was but the power you can touch is only a memory, and so with all your world-destroying fury it is only droids around you that implode, and equipment, and the table on which you were strapped shatters, and in the end, you cannot touch the shadow.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Where Darth Sidious had gained everything, Vader had lost everything, including—for the moment, at least—the self-confidence and unbridled skill he had demonstrated as Anakin Skywalker.

Source: Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader

Emperor Palpatine considers it perilous to reawaken the power in Lord Vader, suggesting that he recognized that Anakin's strength in the Force was a threat to him:

Powered by treachery, the Sith Master–apprentice relationship was always a dangerous game. Trust was encouraged even while being sabotaged; loyalty was demanded even while betrayal was prized; suspicion was nourished even while honesty was praised.

In some sense, it was survival of the fittest.

Fundamental to Vader's growth was the desire to overthrow his Master.

Had Vader killed Obi-Wan on Mustafar, he might have attempted to kill Sidious, as well. In fact, Sidious would have been surprised if Anakin hadn't made an attempt. Now, however, incapable of so much as breathing on his own, Vader could not rise to the challenge, and Sidious understood that he would need to do everything in his power to shake Vader out of his despair, and reawaken the incredible power within him.

Even at Sidious's own peril ...

Source: Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader

Force Augmentation

Strength

Anakin is the strongest Jedi:

This is Anakin Skywalker:

The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace.

He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Anakin overwhelms Count Dooku with his strength, causing Dooku to become so exhausted that he could no longer even strike back, and could barely even feel the room around him. Here he exhibits a strength unmatched by others who have failed to exhaust the Count in such a way - such as General Grievous, Mace Windu, and even Yoda himself:

Skywalker was all over him.

The shining blue lightsaber whirled and spat and every overhand chop crashed against Dooku's defense with the unstoppable power of a meteor strike; the Sith Lord spent lavishly of his reserve of the Force merely to meet these attacks without being cut in half, and Skywalker-

Skywalker was getting stronger.

Each parry cost Dooku more power than he'd used to throw Kenobi across the room; each block aged him a decade.

He decided he'd best revise his strategy once again.

He no longer even tried to strike back. Force exhaustion began to close down his perceptions, drawing his consciousness back down to his physical form, trapping him within his own skull until he could barely even feel the contours of the room around him; he dimly sensed stairs at his back, stairs that led up to the entrance balcony. He retreated up them, using the higher ground for leverage, but Skywalker just kept on coming, tirelessly ferocious.

That blue blade was everywhere, flashing and whirling faster and faster until Dooku saw the room through an electric haze and now Kenobi was back in the picture: with a shout of the Force, he shot like a torpedo up the stairs behind Skywalker, and Dooku decided that under these rather extreme circumstances, it was at least arguably permissible for a gentleman to cheat.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Anakin comes close to breaking Obi-Wan's bones:

His hands seized Obi-Wan's wrists with impossible strength, forcing his arms wide. "I am so sick of your lectures!"

Dark power bore down with his grip.

Obi-Wan felt the bones of his forearms bending, beginning to feather toward the greenstick fractures that would come before the final breaks.

Oh, he thought. Oh, this is bad.

...

With Anakin's grip on his wrists bending his arms near to breaking, forcing both their lightsabers down in a slow but unstoppable arc, Obi-Wan let go.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Speed

Anakin is the fastest Jedi:

This is Anakin Skywalker:

The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace.

He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Anakin overwhelms Count Dooku with his speed, causing him to see the room through an electric haze and perceive Anakin's blue blade as being everywhere:

That blue blade was everywhere, flashing and whirling faster and faster until Dooku saw the room through an electric haze and now Kenobi was back in the picture: with a shout of the Force, he shot like a torpedo up the stairs behind Skywalker, and Dooku decided that under these rather extreme circumstances, it was at least arguably permissible for a gentleman to cheat.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Telekinesis

Anakin hurls a boulder the size of a hut:

He saw one group rush into a hut and reached out across the way, to a large boulder in the distance. It flew to his call, soaring across the sand, smashing one fleeing Tusken down and flying on.

Anakin dropped it on the hut full of Tuskens, crushing them all.

Source: Attack of the Clones

Anakin casually hurls aside dozens of Super Battle Droids:

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Anakin tilts a Conqueror-class dreadnought into the path of several missiles:

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Some scans for the size of the dreadnought:

Anakin hurls the wreckage of an AT-TE with enough force to make it slam into droids with the effect of a bomb going off:

The men sprinted for the door, plunging into the acrid black smoke that now filled the courtyard. It was some kind of cover for a few seconds. Anakin saw the droids, hampered by their own debris, and his eyes went to the blazing carcass of the AT-TE.

Just do it.

Adrenaline fueled him. He sent the wreckage skidding across the ground with a massive Force push. The kinetic force of the impact and the sheet of flame released when it slammed into the droid ranks had the effect of a bomb going off.

Source: The Clone Wars

Anakin rips a spider droid apart:

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Anakin hurls a giant escape pod with Durge in it into a star:

Anakin telekinetically dominates Asajj Ventress with the Force, suspending her in the air and then coiling electric wires around her before using them to electrocute her:

Anakin telekinetically dominates Ventress again, hurling her into a wall hard enough to crack it, then Choking her:

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Anakin telekinetically dominates Barriss Offee:

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Note: Anakin has grown vastly more powerful in the Force since all of the previous showings.

Anakin uses a Force Scream to bring down a 90 x 30 meter dome:

In the ruined archive hall of LiMerge Power's plasma facility, Count Dooku waited for Kenobi and Skywalker to arrive. The room was enormous by any standard, thirty meters high and three times that in circumference.

More droids appeared. To Dooku, this was nothing more than a game, Obi-Wan told himself. But if it was a demonstration of Force ability Dooku wanted, then Anakin was still more than willing to provide it.

"Dooku!" he howled.

With such force and wrath that the ceiling of the vast hall began to collapse.

Dragging himself out from under plasteel girders and chunks of ferrocrete, Count Dooku came shakily to his feet and gazed in astonished disbelief at the shambles of the control room. Had the containment dome been so weak that it had succumbed to flurries of ricocheting blaster bolts, or had Skywalker's voiced rage actually called the ceiling down? Had Dooku not leapt forcefully at the last moment, he might have been buried, as the two Jedi were, somewhere below, in the expanse of rubble that covered the archive room. He was certain that they had survived. But if nothing else they were trapped, which had been the intent from the start.

But Skywalker... Assuming that he had grown powerful enough to have collapsed the dome, the end result was simply further evidence that he would someday undo himself. Wasn't it? Because admitting to any alternative explanation meant accepting that Skywalker was potentially a greater threat to the Sith than anyone realized.

Source: Labyrinth of Evil

Anakin hurls Dooku:

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Anakin easily waves aside the portion of collapsed balcony that crushed Obi-Wan:

He sprang to his feet and waved away the debris that had buried the body of his friend.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

With his powers obstructed by his emotional state, Anakin smashes Obi-Wan into a wall and leaves him half-stunned. Obi-Wan only escapes certain death afterwards by using Electronic Manipulation on Anakin's mechanical hand:

A roar of the Force blasted Obi-Wan back into a wall, smashing breath from his lungs, leaving him swaying, half stunned. Anakin stepped over bodies and lifted his blade for the kill.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Still with his powers obstructed, Anakin sends Obi-Wan crashing into a wall again:

Anakin roared and flew at him, using both the Force and his body to crash Obi-Wan back into the wall once more.Source: Revenge of the Sith

Combat Abilities

Accolades

Even as of Attack of the Clones, Anakin is able to defeat Darth Maul handily:

When asked who would win in a fight -- Ray Park’s Darth Maul or Hayden Christensen’s Anakin Skywalker -- Gillard had no hesitation. "Hayden would cream Darth Maul."

Source: Sword Master & Apprentice

Anakin has grown exponentially since the events of Attack of the Clones, and has surpassed his master Obi-Wan Kenobi:

"Hayden in this film has gone up to a level nine. He's gone past Obi."

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PAOPveZtoE

"Obi-Wan has gone up one level from Episode I to Episode III, but it’s a huge jump from one level to another. It’s not just about a style of fighting—it’s mental as well. Anakin has gone up probably four levels from Episode II to Episode III. So he’s gone beyond Obi-Wan, but he hasn’t gone beyond him mentally."

Source: http://www.theforce.net/episode3/story/nick_gillard_talks_rots_game_92147.asp

'Obi-Wan taught Anakin and Anakin has gone past him,' he notes.

Source: The Making of Revenge of the Sith

"Obi knows that Anakin is better than him, but because he taught him, he knows emotionally how he’s going to behave."

Source: http://www.theforce.net/episode3/story/nick_gillard_talks_rots_game_92147.asp

The ease with which Kenobi had taken command of the situation was frightening. More frightening was the fact that of the two, Skywalker was reportedly the greater warrior.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

He had been a superior fighter even when he had been Anakin Skywalker, and yet Obi-Wan had defeated him.

Source: Death Star

By the start of Revenge of the Sith, Anakin is an unstoppable warrior, the fastest and strongest among all Jedi, and the best at what he does:

This is Anakin Skywalker:

The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace.

He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Darth Sidious claims that Anakin's skills as the newly christened Darth Vader are unmatched by any Sith before him:

"Lord Vader, your skills are unmatched by any Sith before you. Go forth, my boy. Go forth, and bring peace to our Empire."

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Upon his descent into the dark side, Anakin becomes the Jedi Order's most formidable threat:

As the Clone Wars rage on, Anakin Skywalker becomes seduced by the dark side and betrays his fellow Jedi and all that he once held dear. Obi-Wan Kenobi must now battle his former Padawan, who has become the Jedi’s most formidable threat.

Source: Commemorative Episode III DVD Collection — Jedi Knights

Anakin's skills in combat are peerless and he is invincible against any opponent:

Anakin was also peerless in combat, invincible against any opponent.

Source: The Official Figurine Collection #8

Anakin is unbeatable and far more dangerous than anybody else in the Star Wars universe:

"Anakin's style has changed completely between Episode II and Episode III. He now no longer cares. He knows he's unbeatable. He's far more dangerous than anybody in the universe."

Source: http://www.theforce.net/episode3/story/nick_gillard_talks_rots_game_92147.asp

Anakin is a level nine duelist, on the same tier as swordmasters such as Yoda and Darth Sidious. He is thus one tier above Count Dooku, Darth Maul and Obi-Wan Kenobi, who are tier 8 duelists:

"When I started, I figured that a youngling is a level one. And somebody like Kit Fisto - seven. I did take it to eight and nine, but not many people know that. Eight and nine is cheat. So Obi-Wan is eight. Yoda is nine. Mace is eight, bordering on nine. Anakin is nine."

Source: https://youtu.be/Z2-iZNQrFBA?t=908

"Yes, but it's like a Richter scale - an earthquake - and so the difference between seven and eight and eight and nine is enormous."

Source: https://youtu.be/Z2-iZNQrFBA?t=946

"Obi-Wan has gone up one level from Episode I to Episode III, but it’s a huge jump from one level to another. It’s not just about a style of fighting—it’s mental as well. Anakin has gone up probably four levels from Episode II to Episode III. So he’s gone beyond Obi-Wan, but he hasn’t gone beyond him mentally."

Source: http://www.theforce.net/episode3/story/nick_gillard_talks_rots_game_92147.asp

"The level is not necessarily an indication of the performer's talent, but it takes a truly gifted and physically skilled actor to play a powerful Jedi combatant. 'Hayden Christensen is one of the best there is,' says Gillard. 'I've seen hundreds of sword fighters, people who do it for a living, and he leaves them all in his wake. His style has changed a bit since Episode II, when he was only a level seven. On this he's a level nine.' For the curious, Gillard does not reveal any Jedi who has achieved level ten. The highest is nine, occupied by a small number of capable sword masters, including Yoda and Darth Sidious. At so high a ranking, it comes down to individual fighting styles as well as the circumstances of the surroundings that make a difference."

Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20051202222123/http://starwars.com/episode-iii/bts/production/beacon126.html

"There’s up to eight levels. Yoda is an eight, Mace Windu is an eight, Obi is a seven, but if you miss a level, it’s a bit like taking drugs to get enlightenment.” Anakin is the perfect example of messing with the established system. “I’ve got him down as an eight or nine, which doesn’t really exist,” says Gillard, before explaining that by turning to the Dark Side, Anakin skipped some essential steps. “It’s only a writing tool,” he says, “but it gives you the edge over it just being a fight."

Source: https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/star-wars-den-of-geek-goes-jedi-training-with-nick-gillard/

In the Jedi levels of lightsaber fighting, Obi-Wan is an eight, while Anakin, Yoda and Darth Sidious are nines.

Source: http://www.theforce.net/episode3/jtf/palpatine.asp

"Dooku & Maul are 8, but there is a huge difference inside the numbers themselves. It's not about how well they fight, it's about how well they learned."

Source: https://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/17/73/92/12/ng10.png

Anakin is the best Djem So user that Dooku has ever seen:

Skywalker's Shien ready-stance had been a ruse, as had his Ataro gymnastics; the boy was a Djem So stylist, and as fine a one as Dooku had ever seen.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Anakin is a better swordsmaster than anyone in the Jedi Temple during Operation Knightfall:

Even the Temple's finest swordmaster is no match for Anakin Skywalker and the stormtroopers of the 501st Legion.

Source: Revenge of the Sith Visual Dictionary

Anakin Skywalker's skills are greater than that of his future suited self as Darth Vader. In Legends, his skills in A New Hope are described as a "shadow" of his former self's. Following this, Vader improves greatly, yet never regains the lightsaber prowess of his younger years:

In other words, the skill and power that Anakin shows as a young man is greater than what we see in the classic films. As Vader, Anakin is more machine than man, and being a half-droid construct has seriously hampered his lightsaber prowess.

Source: Insider #72

When Obi-Wan Kenobi duels his former apprentice Darth Vader on the Death Star, both combatants know that they are but shadows of their former selves. Neither has fought another lightsaber-wielder for many years. Kenobi is an older man, and Vader a cyborg crippled by the lingering pain of his injuries that make his life-support suit necessary.

Source: Insider #62: Fightsaber

As the Rebels escape, Ben and Vader are locked in an epic clash of the force! Though they are now both older and damaged compared to their former selves, it is still a sight to behold! Luke can do nothing but stare in awe.

Source: Adventures: The Daring Escape!

A generation later, Obi-Wan Kenobi would face Darth Vader once again. While Vader wanted revenge, Obi-Wan was focused on buying time for his friends— including Luke Skywalker. Their duel was careful and measured compared to their previous meeting. Obi-Wan's movements were slowed by age and lack of practice; Darth Vader— recalling the grievous injuries he suffered during their last encounter— fought his former Master with apprehension, while his cybernetic body reduced his actions. Ultimately, Obi-Wan deliberately dropped his defenses, and Darth Vader cut through him, but the Jedi Master mysteriously vanished into the Force.

Source: Lightsabers: A Guide to the Weapons of the Force

Within the armored forces Vader now holds absolute power over the higher Imperial officers who scorned him earlier in his career. This situation reflects Vader's greater mastery over himself and over the Force in the time since the Battle of Yavin, an improvement that is readily apparent in his lightsaber style during the duel with Luke Skywalker on Bespin. Vader has largely freed himself of pain through the Force in the years since the Battle of Yavin and, by practice with living opponents both willing and unwilling, he has advanced his lightsaber technique. Baron Orman Tagge serves as testament to Vader's technique by this era, precisely blinded in both eyes by Vader's blade in a duel. Vader is thus a far more formidable foe on Bespin than he was against Ben Kenobi on the Death Star.

Source: Insider #62: Fightsaber

Both are limited, Vader by his cybernetic body parts and Skywalker by his relative lack of experience dueling.

Source: Insider #62: Fightsaber

Feats

Anakin rapidly drives back Count Dooku, tiring him out and eventually defeating him effortlessly once he calls upon his rage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYT3ctPuVRw

"Surrender." Kenobi's voice deepened into finality. "You will be given no further chance."

Dooku lifted an eyebrow. "Unless one of you happens to be carrying Yoda in his pocket, I hardly think I shall need one."

The Force crackled between them, and the ship pitched and bucked under a new turbolaser barrage, and Dooku decided that the time had come. He flicked a false glance over his shoulder-a hint of distraction to draw the attack-And all three of them moved at once.

The ship shuddered and the red smoke surged from Anakin's spine into his arms and legs and head and when Dooku gave the slightest glance of concern over his shoulder, distracted for half an instant, Anakin just couldn't wait anymore.

He sprang, lightsaber angled for the kill.

Obi-Wan leapt from Dooku's far side in perfect coordination-and they met in midair, for the Sith Lord was no longer between them.

Anakin looked up just in time to glimpse the bottom of Dooku's rancor-leather boot as it came down on his face and smacked him tumbling toward the floor; he reached into the Force to effortlessly right himself and touched down in perfect balance to spring again toward the lightning flares, scarlet against sky blue, that sprayed from clashing lightsabers as Dooku pressed Obi-Wan away with a succession of weaving, flourishing thrusts that drove the Jedi's blade out of line while they reached for his heart.

Anakin launched himself at Dooku's back-and the Count half turned, gesturing casually while holding Obi-Wan at bay with an elegant one-handed bind. Chairs leapt up from the situation table and whirled toward Anakin's head. He slashed the first one in half contemptuously, but the second caught him across the knees and the third battered his shoulder and knocked him down.

He snarled to himself and reached through the Force to pick up some chairs of his own-and the situation table itself slammed into him and drove him back to crush him against the wall. His lightsaber came loose from his slackening fingers and clattered across the tabletop to drop to the floor on the far side.

And Dooku barely even seemed to be paying attention to him.

Pinned, breathless, half stunned, Anakin thought, If this keeps up, I am going to get mad.

While effortlessly deflecting a rain of blue-streaking cuts from Kenobi, Dooku felt the Force shove the situation table away from the wall and send it hurtling toward his back with astonishing speed; he barely managed to lift himself enough that he could backroll over it instead of having it shatter his spine.

"My my," he said, chuckling. "The boy has some power after all."

His backroll brought him to his feet directly in front of the lad, who was charging, headlong and unarmed, after the table he had tossed, and was already thoroughly red in the face.

"I'm twice the Jedi I was last time!"

Ah, Dooku thought. Such a fragile little ego. Sidious will have to help him with that. But until then-The grip of Skywalker's blade whistled through the air to meet his hand in perfect synchrony with a sweeping slash. "My powers have doubled since we last met-"

"How lovely for you." Dooku neatly sidestepped, cutting at the boy's leg, yet Skywalker's blade met the cut as he passed and he managed to sweep his blade behind his head to slap aside the casual thrust Dooku aimed at the back of his neck-but his clumsy charge had put him in Kenobi's path, so that the Jedi Master had to Force-roll over his partner's head.

Directly at Dooku's upraised blade.

Kenobi drove a slash at the scarlet blade while he pivoted in the air, and again Dooku sidestepped so that now it was Kenobi in Skywalker's way.

"Really," Dooku said, "this is pathetic."

Oh, they were certainly energetic enough, leaping and whirling, raining blows almost at random, cutting chairs to pieces and Force-hurling them in every conceivable direction, while Dooku continued, in his gracefully methodical way, to out-maneuver them so thoroughly it was all he could to do keep from laughing out loud.

It was a simple matter of countering their tactics, which were depressingly straightforward; Skywalker was the swift one, whooshing here and there like a spastic hawk-bat-attempting a Jedi variant of neek-in-the-middle so they could come at him from both sides-while Kenobi came on in a measured Shii-Cho cadence, deliberate as a lumberdroid, moving step by step, cutting off the angles, clumsy but relentlessly dogged as he tried to chivvy Dooku into a corner.

Whereas all Dooku need do was to slip from one side to another-and occasionally flip over a head here and there-so that he could fight each of them in turn, rather than both of them at the same time. He supposed that in their own milieu, they might actually prove reasonably effective; it was clear that their style had been developed by fighting as a team against large numbers of opponents. They were not prepared to fight together against a single Force-user, certainly not one of Dooku's power; he, on the other hand, had always fought alone. It was laughably easy to keep the Jedi tripping and stumbling and getting in each other's way.

They didn't even comprehend how utterly he dominated the combat. Because they fought as they had been trained, by releasing all desire and allowing the Force to flow through them, they had no hope of countering Dooku's mastery of Sith techniques They had learned nothing since he had bested them on Geonosis.

They allowed the Force to direct them; Dooku directed the Force.

He drew their strikes to his parries, and drove his own ripostes with thrusts of dark power that subtly altered the Jedi's balance and disrupted their timing. He could have slaughtered both of them as casually as that creature Maul had destroyed the vigos of the Black Sun.

However, only one death was in his plan, and this dumb-show was becoming tiresome. Not to mention tiring. The dark power that served him went only so far, and he was, after all, not a young man.

He leaned into a thrust at Kenobi's gut that the Jedi Master deflected with a rising parry, bringing them chest-to-chest, blades flaring, locked together a handbreadth from each other's throats. "Your moves are too slow, Kenobi. Too predictable. You'll have to do better."

Kenobi's response to this friendly word was to regard him with a twinkle of gentle amusement in his eye.

"Very well, then," the Jedi said, and shot straight upward over Dooku's head so fast it seemed he'd vanished.

And in the space where Kenobi's chest had been was now only the blue lightning of Skywalker's blade driving straight for Dooku's heart.

Only a desperate whirl to one side made what would have been a smoking hole in his chest into a line of scorch through his armorweave cloak.

Dooku thought, What?

He threw himself spinning up and away from the two Jedi to land on the situation table, disengaging for a moment to recover his composure-that had been entirely too close-but by the time his boots touched down Kenobi was there to meet him, blade weaving through a defensive velocity so bewilderingly fast that Dooku dared not even try a strike; he threw a feint toward Kenobi's face, then dropped and spun in a reverse ankle-sweep-But not only did Kenobi easily overleap this attack, Dooku nearly lost his own foot to a slash from Skywalker who had again come out of nowhere and now carved through the table so that it collapsed under Dooku's weight and dumped the Sith Lord un-:eremoniously to the floor. This was not in the plan. Skywalker slammed his following strike down so hard that the shock of deflecting it buckled Dooku's elbows. Dooku threw himself into a backroll that brought him to his feet-and Kenobi's blade was there to meet his neck. Only a desperate whirling slash-block, coupled with a wheel kick that caught Kenobi on the thigh, bought him enough time to leap away again, and when he touched down-Skywalker was already there.

The first overhand chop of Skywalker's blade slid off Dooku's instinctive guard. The second bent Dooku's wrist. The third flash of blue forced Dooku's scarlet blade so far to the inside that his own lightsaber scorched his shoulder, and Dooku was forced to give ground.

Dooku felt himself blanch. Where had this come from? Skywalker came on, mechanically inexorable, impossibly powerful, a destroyer droid with a lightsaber: each step a blow and each blow a step. Dooku backed away as fast as he dared; Skywalker stayed right on top of him. Dooku's breath went short and hard. He no longer tried to block Skywalker's strikes but only to guide them slanting away; he could not meet Skywalker strength-to-strength-not only did the boy wield tremendous reserves of Force energy, but his sheer physical power was astonishing-And only then did Dooku understand that he'd been suckered.

Skywalker's Shien ready-stance had been a ruse, as had his Ataro gymnastics; the boy was a Djem So stylist, and as fine a one as Dooku had ever seen. His own elegant Makashi simply did not generate the kinetic power to meet Djem So head-to-head. Especially not while also defending against a second attacker.

It was time to alter his own tactics.

He dropped low and spun into another reverse ankle-sweep-the weakness of Djem So was its lack of mobility-that slapped Skywalker's boot sharply enough to throw the young Jedi off balance, giving Dooku the opportunity to leap away-Only to find himself again facing the wheel of blue lightning that was Kenobi's blade.

Dooku decided that the comedy had ended.

Now it was time to kill.

Kenobi's Master had been Qui-Gon Jinn, Dooku's own Padawan; Dooku had fenced Qui-Gon thousands of times, and he knew every weakness of the Ataro form, with its ridiculous acrobatics. He drove a series of flashing thrusts toward Kenobi's legs to draw the Jedi Master into a flipping overhead leap so that Dooku could burn through his spine from kidneys to shoulder blades-and this image, this plan, was so clear in Dooku's mind that he almost failed to notice that Kenobi met every one of his thrusts without so much as moving his feet, staying perfectly centered, perfectly balanced, blade never moving a millimeter more than was necessary, deflecting without effort, riposting with flickering strikes and stabs swifter than the tongue of a Garollian ghost viper, and when Dooku felt Skywalker regain his feet and stride once more toward his back, he finally registered the source of that blinding defensive velocity Kenobi had used a moment ago, and only then, belatedly, did he understand that Kenobi's Ataro and Shii-Cho had been ploys, as well.

Kenobi had become a master of Soresu.

Dooku found himself having a sudden, unexpected, overpowering, and entirely distressing bad feeling about this . . .

His farce had suddenly, inexplicably, spun from humorous to deadly serious and was tumbling rapidly toward terrifying. Realization burst through Dooku's consciousness like the blossoming fireballs of dying ships outside: this pair of Jedi fools had somehow managed to become entirely dangerous.

These clowns might-just possibly-actually be able to beat him.

No sense taking chances; even his Master would agree with that. Lord Sidious could come up with a new plan more easily than a new apprentice.

He gathered the Force once more in a single indrawn breath that summoned power from throughout the universe; the slightest whipcrack of that power, negligent as a flick of his wrist, sent Kenobi flying backward to crash hard against the wall, but Dooku didn't have time to enjoy it.

Skywalker was all over him.

The shining blue lightsaber whirled and spat and every overhand chop crashed against Dooku's defense with the unstoppable power of a meteor strike; the Sith Lord spent lavishly of his reserve of the Force merely to meet these attacks without being cut in half, and Skywalker-Skywalker was getting stronger.

Each parry cost Dooku more power than he'd used to throw Kenobi across the room; each block aged him a decade.

He decided he'd best revise his strategy once again.

He no longer even tried to strike back. Force exhaustion began to close down his perceptions, drawing his consciousness back down to his physical form, trapping him within his own skull until he could barely even feel the contours of the room around him; he dimly sensed stairs at his back, stairs that led up to the entrance balcony. He retreated up them, using the higher ground for leverage, but Skywalker just kept on coming, tirelessly ferocious.

That blue blade was everywhere, flashing and whirling faster and faster until Dooku saw the room through an electric haze and now Kenobi was back in the picture: with a shout of the Force, he shot like a torpedo up the stairs behind Skywalker, and Dooku decided that under these rather extreme circumstances, it was at least arguably permissible for a gentleman to cheat.

"Guards!" he said to the pair of super battle droids that still stood at attention to either side of the entrance. "Open fire!"

Instantly the two droids sprang forward and lifted their hands. Energy hammered out from the heavy blasters built into their arms; Skywalker whirled and his blade batted every blast back at the droids, whose mirror-polished carapace armor deflected the bolts again. Galvened particle beams screeched through the room in blinding ricochets.

Kenobi reached the top of the stairs and a single slash of his lightsaber dismantled both droids. Before their pieces could even hit the floor Dooku was in motion, landing a spinning side-stamp that folded Skywalker in half; he used his last burst of dark power to continue his spin into a blindingly fast wheel-kick that brought his heel against the point of Kenobi's chin with a crack like the report of a huge-bore slugthrower, knocking the Jedi Master back down the stairs. Sounded like he'd broken his neck.

Wouldn't that be lovely?

There was no sense in taking chances, however.

While Kenobi's bonelessly limp body was still tumbling toward the floor far below, Dooku sent a surge of energy through the Force. Kenobi's fall suddenly accelerated like a missile burning the last of its drives before impact. The Jedi Master struck the floor at a steep angle, skidded along it, and slammed into the wall so hard the hydrofoamed permacrete buckled and collapsed onto him.

This Dooku found exceedingly gratifying.

Now, as for Skywalker-Which was as far as Dooku got, because by the time his attention returned to the younger Jedi, his vision was rather completely obstructed by the sole of a boot approaching his face with something resembling terminal velocity.

The impact was a blast of white fire, and there was a second impact against his back that was the balcony rail, and then the room turned upside down and he fell toward the ceiling, but not really, of course: it only felt that way because he had flipped over the rail and he was falling headfirst toward the floor, and neither his arms nor his legs were paying any attention to what he was trying to make them do. The Force seemed to be busy elsewhere, and really, the whole process was entirely mortifying.

He was barely able to summon a last surge of dark power before what would have been a disabling impact. The Force cradled him, cushioning his fall and setting him on his feet.

He dusted himself off and fixed a supercilious gaze on Skywalker, who now stood upon the balcony looking down at him-and Dooku couldn't hold the stare; he found this reversal of their original positions oddly unsettling.

There was something troublingly appropriate about it. Seeing Skywalker standing where Dooku himself had stood only moments ago ... it was as though he was trying to remember a dream he'd never actually had . . .

He pushed this aside, drawing once more upon the certain knowledge of his personal invincibility to open a channel to the Force. Power flowed into him, and the weight of his years dropped away.

He lifted his blade, and beckoned.

Skywalker leapt from the balcony. Even as the boy hurtled downward, Dooku felt a new twist in the currents of the Force between them, and he finally understood.

He understood how Skywalker was getting stronger. Why he no longer spoke. How he had become a machine of battle. He understood why Sidious had been so interested in him for so long.

Skywalker was a natural.

There was a thermonuclear furnace where his heart should be, and it was burning through the firewalls of his Jedi training. He held the Force in the clench of a white-hot fist. He was half Sith already, and he didn't even know it.

This boy had the gift of fury.

And even now, he was holding himself back; even now, as he landed at Dooku's flank and rained blows upon the Sith Lord's defenses, even as he drove Dooku backward step after step, Dooku could feel how Skywalker kept his fury banked behind walls of will: walls that were hardened by some uncontrollable dread.

Dread, Dooku surmised, of himself. Of what might happen if he should ever allow that furnace he used for a heart to go supercritical.

Dooku slipped aside from an overhand chop and sprang backward. "I sense great fear in you. You are consumed by it. Hero With No Fear, indeed. You're a fraud, Skywalker. You are nothing but a posturing child."

He pointed his lightsaber at the young Jedi like an accusing finger. "Aren't you a little old to be afraid of the dark?"

Skywalker leapt for him again, and this time Dooku met the boy's charge easily. They stood nearly toe-to-toe, blades flashing faster than the eye could see, but Skywalker had lost his edge: a simple taunt was all that had been required to shift the focus of his attention from winning the fight to controlling his own emotions. The angrier he got, the more afraid he became, and the fear fed his anger in turn; like the proverbial Corellian multipede, now that he had started thinking about what he was doing, he could no longer walk.

Dooku allowed himself to relax; he felt that spirit of playfulness coming over him again as he and Skywalker spun 'round each other in their lethal dance. Whatever fun was to be had, he should enjoy while he could.

Then Sidious, for some reason, decided to intervene.

"Don't fear what you're feeling, Anakin, use it!" he barked in Palpatine's voice. "Call upon your fury. Focus it, and he cannot stand against you. Rage is your weapon. Strike now! Strike! Kill him!"

Dooku thought blankly, Kill me?

He and Skywalker paused for one single, final instant, blades locked together, staring at each other past a sizzling cross of scarlet against blue, and in that instant Dooku found himself wondering in bewildered astonishment if Sidious had suddenly lost his mind. Didn't he understand the advice he'd just given? Whose side was he on, anyway?

And through the cross of their blades he saw in Skywalker's eyes the promise of hell, and he felt a sickening presentiment that he already knew the answer to that question. Treachery is the way of the Sith.

***

This is the death of Count Dooku:

A starburst of clarity blossoms within Anakin Skywalker's mind, when he says to himself Oh. I get it, now and discovers that the fear within his heart can be a weapon, too.

It is that simple, and that complex.

And it is final.

Dooku is dead already. The rest is mere detail.

The play is still on; the comedy of lightsabers flashes and snaps and hisses. Dooku & Skywalker, a one-time-only command performance, for an audience of one. Jedi and Sith and Sith and Jedi, spinning, whirling, crashing together, slashing and chopping, parrying, binding, slipping and whipping and ripping the air around them with snarls of power.

And all for nothing, because a nuclear flame has consumed Anakin Skywalker's Jedi restraint, and fear becomes fury without effort, and fury is a blade that makes his lightsaber into a toy.

The play goes on, but the suspense is over. It has become mere pantomime, as intricate and as meaningless as the space-time curves that guide galactic clusters through a measureless cosmos.

Dooku's decades of combat experience are irrelevant. His mastery of swordplay is useless. His vast wealth, his political influence, impeccable breeding, immaculate manners, exquisite taste-the pursuits and points of pride to which he has devoted so much of his time and attention over the long, long years of his life-are now chains hung upon his spirit, bending his neck before the ax.

Even his knowledge of the Force has become a joke.

It is this knowledge that shows him his death, makes him handle it, turn it this way and that in his mind, examine it in detail like a black gemstone so cold it burns. Dooku's elegant farce has degenerated into bathetic melodrama, and not one shed tear will mark the passing of its hero.

But for Anakin, in the fight there is only terror, and rage.

Only he stands between death and the two men he loves best in all the world, and he can no longer afford to hold anything back. That imaginary dead-star dragon tries its best to freeze away his strength, to whisper him that Dooku has beaten him before, that Dooku has all the power of the darkness, to remind him how Dooku took his hand, how Dooku could strike down even Obi-Wan himself seemingly without effort and now Anakin is all alone and he will never be a match for any Lord of the Sith-But Palpatine's words rage is your weapon have given Anakin permission to unseal the shielding around his furnace heart, and all his fears and all his doubts shrivel in its flame.

When Count Dooku flies at him, blade flashing, Watto's fist cracks out from Anakin's childhood to knock the Sith Lord tumbling back.

When with all the power that the dark side can draw from throughout the universe, Dooku hurls a jagged fragment of the durasteel table, Shmi Skywalker's gentle murmur I knew you would come for me, Anakin smashes it aside.

His head has been filled with the smoke from his smothered heart for far too long; it has been the thunder that darkens his mind. On Aargonar, on Jabiim, in the Tusken camp on Tatooine, that smoke had clouded his mind, had blinded him and left him flailing in the dark, a mindless machine of slaughter; but here now, within this ship, this microscopic cell of life in the infinite sterile desert of space, his firewalls have opened so that the terror and the rage are out there, in the fight instead of in his head, and Anakin's mind is clear as a crystal bell.

In that pristine clarity, there is only one thing he must do.

Decide.

So he does.

He decides to win.

He decides that Dooku should lose the same hand he took. Decision is reality, here: his blade moves simultaneously with his will and blue fire vaporizes black Corellian nanosilk and disintegrates flesh and shears bone, and away falls a Sith Lord's lightsaber hand, trailing smoke that tastes of charred meat and burned hair. The hand falls with a bar of scarlet blaze still extending from its spastic death grip, and Anakin's heart sings for the fall of that red blade.

He reaches out and the Force catches it for him.

And then Anakin takes Dooku's other hand as well.

Dooku crumples to his knees, face blank, mouth slack, and his weapon whirs through the air to the victor's hand, and Anakin finds his vision of the future happening before his eyes: two blades at Count Dooku's throat.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

As Obi-Wan and Anakin ignited their lightsabers, Count Dooku jumped down from the balcony. He landed lightly, and Obi-Wan felt the dark side of the Force surging around him. “Your swords, please, Master Jedi. Let’s not make a mess of this in front of the Chancellor.”

Obi-Wan and Anakin ignored him. Lightsabers ready, they closed in. As Dooku reached for his own lightsaber, they charged. Dooku met them with a mocking smile. “Don’t assume that because there are two of you, you have the advantage,” he said.

Count Dooku deserved his reputation as a master of the old style of lightsaber fencing. Even with both Anakin and Obi-Wan pressing him, he seemed at ease. The Jedi used every trick they knew, leaping and striking from unexpected directions. Dooku blocked them all. At least he’s not having any more luck hitting us than we are hitting him, Obi-Wan thought. That’s a big improvement over last time.

Anakin seemed to be thinking along the same lines. In a lull between fierce exchanges, he gave Dooku a frightening smile and said, “My powers have doubled since we last met, Count.”

No, Anakin, Obi-Wan thought. Don’t taunt him. Anger fed the dark side; they didn’t need Dooku’s power to be any greater than it already was.

“Good,” the Count said calmly. “Twice the pride, double the fall. I have looked forward to this, Skywalker.”

Despite the Count’s confidence, the two Jedi forced him slowly backward. When the super droids got in the way, they cut them down. At last they reached the first set of stairs to the balcony. As the Count started up, Obi-Wan disengaged and ran to the second set of stairs to attack him from behind. Climbing the stairs, it cut down two of the super battle droids.

He can’t fight in two directions at once, Obi-Wan thought as he came up behind the Count. If we can —

Count Dooku half-turned and raised a hand. A rush of dark power lifted Obi-Wan off his feet and choked the air from his lungs. He reached for the Force to counter Dooku, but the attack had been too sudden. He saw Dooku twist, kicking out at Anakin with all his weight behind it. Anakin fell backward, and Dooku hurled Obi-Wan over the edge of the balcony.

Obi-Wan dropped to the floor below and lay half-stunned. Distantly, he felt a surge in the dark side, and then a large chunk of the balcony hurtled down at him. His last thought before he lost consciousness was, It’s up to Anakin now.

* * *

As the balcony collapsed atop Obi-Wan, Anakin rushed at the Count and kicked him over the edge, then followed him down. He wanted to rush to the pile of rubble burying Obi-Wan, but he knew he couldn’t. It’s up to me now. I can’t give Dooku even the smallest opening. He tried to concentrate on Dooku, but his fear for Obi-Wan was hard to ignore.

Dooku smiled, and echoed Anakin’s thoughts. “I sense great fear in you, Skywalker.” He shook his head, as if Anakin were a particularly slow student. “You have power, you have anger — but you don’t use them.”

And I’m not going to, Anakin told himself. That’s the way to the dark side. Pushing his fear aside, he tried to forget the balcony crushing Obi-Wan and the intent expression on the Chancellor’s face as he watched the battle that would decide his fate. Anakin made himself focus on the fight, and only the fight.

All of the super battle droids had been cut down; only Anakin and Dooku were left. Down the long length of the room they fought, neither one able to gain an advantage. He’s old, Anakin thought. Maybe I can just outlast him. But the power of the dark side flowed around him, denying that possibility. The dark side would keep Dooku going as long as he needed. What am I going to do? I have to beat him, or the Chancellor and Obi-Wan are dead. Not to mention me….

Behind him, he heard Chancellor Palpatine calling something, trying to be heard over the crackle and hum of the lightsabers. “Use your aggressive feelings, Anakin! Call on your rage. Focus it, or you don’t stand a chance against him.”

Anakin hesitated. The Chancellor was no Jedi; he couldn’t know about the dangers of the dark side. He only cared about getting out of there alive. And there’s only me to do it. Surely he could risk the dark side just this once, in order to save the Chancellor and Obi-Wan. He looked at Dooku and let himself feel the emotions that he had been keeping so tightly controlled.

Rage poured through him. This was the man who had belittled him, who had kidnapped Palpatine and nearly killed Obi-Wan, who had cut off Anakin’s hand and tried to have Padme put to death. Anakin used his anger the way he normally used the Force, letting it guide his lightsaber. Faster and faster he moved, and then his lightsaber came down and severed Count Dooku’s hands.

Leaning forward, Anakin caught the Count’s lightsaber as it fell. The anger still sang in his veins. He set the two lightsabers against the Count’s neck and stood panting with the effort of trying to control himself.

“Good, Anakin, good,” Palpatine said. He was smiling in relief. “I knew you could do it.” Anakin felt himself begin to relax at the sound of that gentle, familiar voice. Then Palpatine said, “Kill him. Kill him now!”

Source: Revenge of the Sith Junior Novelization

Anakin Skywalker easily cut downs Cin Drallig and Whie Malreaux with one hand, whilst simultaneously Choking Bene:

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"Stone-faced, Obi-Wan watched younglings run into the room, fleeing a storm of blasterfire; he watched Cin Drallig and a pair of teenage Padawans-was that Whie, the boy Yoda had brought to Vjun?-backing into the scene, blades whirling, cutting down the advancing clone troopers with deflected bolts. He watched a lightsaber blade flick into the shot, cutting down first one Padawan, then the other. He watched the brisk stride of a caped figure who hacked through Drallig's shoulder, then stood aside as the old Troll fell dying to let the rest of the clones blast the children to shreds."

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Drallig tried to fend off Vader with the help of two of his students, Whie and Bene, but Vader cut them down.

Source: The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia

When Darth Vader and his clone troopers attacked the Jedi Temple the night of Order 66, Vader choked Bene with one hand whilst he dueled Drallig with the other.

Source: The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia

Anakin drives Obi-Wan back across the landscape of Mustafar, fighting evenly despite a slew of circumstances (mostly against Anakin). In the end, Anakin's overconfidence causes him to mistime a leap that allows Obi-Wan to sever his organic limbs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOhZ5wD6u7A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tzqehBgi4I

Obi-Wan sighed.

He brought out his own lighstaber and angled it before him. "Then I will do what I must."

"You'll try," Anakin said, and leapt.

Obi-Wan met him in the air.

Blue blades crossed, and the volcano above echoed their lightning with a shout of fire.

***

Blade-to-blade, they were identical. After thousands of hours in lightsaber sparring, they knew each other better than brothers, more intimately than lovers; they were complementary halves of a single warrior.

In every exchange, Obi-Wan gave ground. It was his way. And he knew that to strike Anakin down would burn his own heart to ash.

Exchanges flashed. Leaps were sideslipped or met with flying kicks; ankle sweeps skipped over and punches parried. The door of the control center fell in pieces, and then they were inside among the bodies. Consoles exploded in fountains of white-hot sparks as they ripped free of their moorings and hurtled through the air. Dead hands spasmed on triggers and blaster bolts sizzled through impossibly intricate lattices of ricochet.

Obi-Wan barely caught some and flipped them at Anakin: a desperation move. Anything to distract him; anything to slow him down. Easily, contemptuously, Anakin sent them back, and the bolts flared between their blades until their galvening faded and the particles of the packeted beams dispersed into radioactive fog.

"Don't make me destroy you, Obi-Wan." Anakin's voice had gone deeper than a well and bleak as the obsidian cliffs. "You're no match for the power of the dark side."

"I've heard that before," Obi-Wan said through his teeth, parrying madly, "but I never thought I'd hear it from vow."

A roar of the Force blasted Obi-Wan back into a wall, smashing breath from his lungs, leaving him swaying, half stunned. Anakin stepped over bodies and lifted his blade for the kill.

Obi-Wan had only one trick left, one that wouldn't work twice—

But it was a very good trick.

It had, after all, worked rather splendidly on Grievous...

He twitched one finger, reaching through the Force to reverse the polarity of the electrodrivers in Anakin's mechanical hand.

Durasteel fingers sprang open, and a lightsaber tumbled free. Obi-Wan reached. Anakin's lightsaber twisted in the air and flipped into his hand. He poised both blades in a cross before him. "The flaw of power is arrogance."

"You hesitate," Anakin said. "The flaw of compassion—"

"It's not compassion," Obi-Wan said sadly. "It's reverence for life. Even yours. It's respect for the man you were."

He sighed. "It's regret for the man you should have been."

Anakin roared and flew at him, using both the Force and his body to crash Obi-Wan back into the wall once more. His hands seized Obi-Wan's wrists with impossible strength, forcing his arms wide. "I am so sick of your lectures!"

Dark power bore down with his grip.

Obi-Wan felt the bones of his forearms bending, beginning to feather toward the greenstick fractures that would come before the final breaks.

Oh, he thought. Oh, this is bad.

***

With Anakin's grip on his wrists bending his arms near to breaking, forcing both their lightsabers down in a slow but unstoppable arc, Obi-Wan let go. Of everything.

His hopes. His fears. His obligation to the Jedi, his promise to Qui-Gon, his failure with Anakin. And their lightsabers.

Startled, Anakin instinctively shifted his Force grip, releasing one wrist to reach for his blade; in that instant Obi-Wan twisted free of his other hand and with the Force caught up his own blade, reversing it along his forearm so that his swift parry of Anakin's thundering overhand not only blocked the strike but directed both blades to slice through the wall against which he stood. He slid Anakin's following thrust through the wall on the opposite side, guiding both blades again up and over his head in a circular sweep so that he could use the power of Anakin's next chop to drive himself backward through the wall, outside into the smoke and the falling cinders.

Anakin followed, constantly attacking; Obi-Wan again gave ground, retreating along a narrow balcony high above the blacksand shoreline of a lake of fire.

Mustafar hummed with death behind his back, only a moment away, somewhere out there among the rivers of molten rock. Obi-Wan let Anakin drive him toward it.

It was a place, he decided, they should reach together. Anakin forced him back and back, slamming his blade down with strength that seemed to flow from the volcano overhead. He spun and whirled and sliced razor-sharp shards of steel from the wall and shot them at Obi-Wan with the full heat of his fury. He slashed through a control panel along the walkway, and the ray shield that had held back the lava storm vanished.

Fire rained around them.

Obi-Wan backed to the end of the balcony; behind him was only a power conduit no thicker than his arm, connecting it to the main collection plant of the old lava mine, over a riverbed that flowed with white-hot molten stone. Obi-Wan stepped backward onto the conduit without hesitation, his balance flawless as he parried chop after chop.

Anakin came on. Out on the tightrope of power conduit, their blades blurred even faster than before. They chopped and slashed and parried and blocked. Lava bombs thundered to the ground below, shedding drops of burning stone that scorched their robes. Smoke shrouded the planet's star, and now the only light came from the hell-glow of the lava below them and from their blades themselves. Flares of energy crackled and spat.

This was not Sith against Jedi. This was not light against dark or good against evil; it had nothing to do with duty or philosophy, religion or morals.

It was Anakin against Obi-Wan.

Personally. Just the two of them, and the damage they had done to each other.

Obi-Wan backflipped from the conduit to a coupling nexus of the main collection plant; when Anakin flew in pursuit, Obi-Wan leapt again. They spun and whirled throughout its levels, up its stairs, and across its platforms; they battled out onto the collection panels over which the cascades of lava poured, and Obi-Wan, out on the edge of the collection panel, hunching under a curve of durasteel that splashed aside gouts of lava, deflecting Force blasts and countering strikes from this creature of rage that had been his best friend, suddenly comprehended an unexpectedly profound truth.

The man he faced was everything Obi-Wan had devoted his life to destroying: Murderer. Traitor. Fallen Jedi. Lord of the Sith. And here, and now, despite it all...

Obi-Wan still loved him.

Yoda had said it, flat-out: Allow such attachments to pass out of one's life, a Jedi must, but Obi-Wan had never let himself understand. He had argued for Anakin, made excuses, covered for him again and again and again; all the while this attachment he denied even feeling had blinded him to the dark path his best friend walked.

Obi-Wan knew there was, in the end, only one answer for attachment...

He let it go.

The lake of fire, no longer held back by the ray shield, chewed away the shore on which the plant stood, and the whole massive structure broke loose, sending both warriors skidding, scrabbling desperately for handholds down tilting durasteel slopes that were rapidly becoming cliffs; they hung from scraps of cable as the plant's superstructure floated out into the lava, sinking slowly as its lower levels melted and burned away.

Anakin kicked off from the toppling superstructure, swinging through a wide arc over the lava's boil. Obi-Wan shoved out and met him there, holding the cable with one hand and the Force, angling his blade high. Anakin flicked a Shien whipcrack at his knees. Obi-Wan yanked his legs high and slashed through the cable above Anakin's hand, and Anakin fell.

Pockets of gas boiled to the surface of the lava, gouting flame like arms reaching to gather him in.

But Anakin's momentum had already swung back toward the dissolving wreck of the collection plant, and the Force carried him within reach of another cable. Obi-Wan whipped his legs around his cable, altering its arc to bring him within reach of the one from which Anakin now dangled, but Anakin was on to this game now, and he swung cable-to-cable ahead of Obi-Wan's advance, using the Force to carry himself higher and higher, forcing Obi-Wan to counter by doing the same; on this terrain, altitude was everything.

Simultaneous surges of the Force carried them both spinning up off the cables to the slant of the toppling superstructure's crane deck. Obi-Wan barely got his feet on the metal before Anakin pounced on him and they stood almost toe-to-toe, blades whirling and crashing on all sides, while around them the collection plant's maintenance droids still tinkered mindlessly away at the doomed machinery, as they would continue to do until lava closed over them and they melted to their constituent molecules and dissolved into the flow.

A roar louder even than the volcano's eruption came from the river ahead; metal began to shriek and stretch. The river dropped away in a vertical sheet of fire that vanished into boiling clouds of smoke and gases.

The whole collection plant was being carried, inexorably, out over a vast lava-fall.

Obi-Wan decided he didn't really want to see what was at the bottom.

He turned Anakin's blade aside with a two-handed block and landed a solid kick that knocked the two apart. Before Anakin could recover his balance, Obi-Wan took a running leap that became a graceful dive headlong off the crane deck. He hurtled down past level after level, and only a few tens of meters above the lava itself the Force called a dangling cable to his hand, turning his dive into a swing that carried him high and far, to the very limit of the cable.

And he let it go.

As though jumping from a swing in the Temple playrooms, his velocity sent him flying up and out over a catenary arc that shot him toward the river's shore. Toward. Not quite to.

But the Force had led him here, and again it had not betrayed him: below, humming along a few meters above the lava river, came a big, slow old repulsorlift platform, carrying droids and equipment out toward a collection plant that its programming was not sophisticated enough to realize was about to be destroyed.

Obi-Wan flipped in the air and let the Force bring him to a catfooted landing. An adder-quick stab of his lightsaber disabled the platform's guidance system, and Obi-Wan was able to direct it back toward the shore with a simple shift of his weight.

He turned to watch as the collection plant shrieked like the damned in a Corellian hell, crumbling over the brink of the falls until it vanished into invisible destruction.

Obi-Wan lowered his head. "Good-bye, old friend." But the Force whispered a warning, and Obi-Wan lifted his head in time to see Anakin come hurtling toward him out from the boil of smoke above the falls, perched on a tiny repulsorlift droid. The little droid was vastly swifter than Obi-Wan's logy old cargo platform, and Anakin was easily able to swing around Obi-Wan and cut him off from the shore. Obi-Wan shifted weight one way, then another, but Anakin's droid was nimble as a sand panther; there was no way around, and this close to the lava, the heat was intense enough to crisp Obi-Wan's hair.

"This is the end for you, Master," he said. "I wish it were otherwise."

"Yes, Anakin, so do I," Obi-Wan said as he sprinted into a leaping dive, making a spear of his blade.

Anakin leaned aside and deflected the thrust almost contemptuously; he missed a cut at Obi-Wan's legs as the Jedi Master flew past him.

Obi-Wan turned his dive into a forward roll that left him barely teetering on the rim of a low cliff, just above the soft black sand of the riverbank. Anakin snarled a curse as he realized he'd been suckered, and leapt off his droid at Obi-Wan's back— Half a second too slow.

Obi-Wan's whirl to parry didn't meet Anakin's blade. It met his knee. Then his other knee.

And while Anakin was still in the air, burned-off lower legs only starting their topple down the cliff, Obi-Wan's recovery to guard brought his blade through Anakin's left arm above the elbow. He stepped back as Anakin fell.

Anakin dropped his lightsaber, clawing at the edge of the cliff with his mechanical hand, but his grip was too powerful for the lava bank and it crumbled, and he slid down onto the black sand. His severed legs and his severed arm rolled into the lava below him and burned to ash in sudden bursts of scarlet flame.

The same color, Obi-Wan observed distantly, as a Sith blade. Anakin scrabbled at the soft black sand, but struggling only made him slip farther. The sand itself was hot enough that digging his durasteel fingers into it burned off his glove, and his robes began to smolder.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

“Only a Sith Lord deals in absolutes, Anakin,” Obi-Wan told him, and ignited his lightsaber. Now I will do what I must.

Anakin’s face twisted as he ignited his own weapon, and the battle began.

***

As Anakin’s lightsaber hummed toward him, a calm certainty filled Obi-Wan. Anakin was going to kill him. Oh, he’d make Anakin work for it. He’d fight with everything he had. But he was positive, with the sureness that came from any Force-driven insight, that he would die at Anakin’s hands.

His lightsaber came up in an instinctive parry. They had sparred together so often that they knew each other’s favorite moves. Obi-Wan hardly had to think to counter Anakin’s attack. Lightsabers humming, they battled their way down the hall and into the control center. It felt … familiar, like another practice session, except for the exploding equipment.

He saw the same emotions reflected on Anakin’s face. “Don’t make me destroy you,” his former apprentice said again. Then his expression changed to a sneer. “You’re no match for the dark side.”

“I’ve heard that before, Anakin,” Obi-Wan said. “But I never thought I’d hear it from you.”

They were in the conference room now. There were headless and limbless bodies on the floor; Obi-Wan recognized several of the Separatist leaders. Anakin has been here before, he thought. But still his arms moved, weaving light into a deadly shield against all of Anakin’s blows.

Anakin did a back flip onto the table to gain the high ground. But Obi-Wan had been expecting something like that, and did not follow. Instead, he threw himself into a long slide, bowling Anakin over.

As he fell, Anakin lost his grip on his lightsaber. Obi-Wan caught it and stared at it in surprise. How can Anakin kill me, if he doesn’t have a lightsaber? Then Anakin charged him. Before Obi-Wan could swing his own weapon, Anakin was on him. His left hand gripped Obi-Wan’s right wrist, holding off the deadly lightsaber; the mechanical right hand fought to repossess his own weapon.

Durasteel and servomotors proved stronger than flesh and bone. Anakin wrenched his lightsaber away, and attacked once more.

Out into the hall, they fought, then onto a balcony above a river of lava. A slender pipe led from the control center to a collection plant on the far side of the river. As Anakin’s attack intensified, Obi-Wan was forced onto the pipe, where a single misstep would send him plunging into the fire.

***

Crossing the collection pipe was difficult, even for a Jedi. At one point, Obi-Wan slipped and nearly fell into the lava, but his Jedi reflexes and agility let him recover. On the far side, Anakin rushed him again, driving him back onto the collection plates.

But the collection plant had never been designed to take the weight of two men, and in the heat of the battle in the control room, they had smashed the shield controls that protected the plant from fiery lava, weakening the structure. A spray of lava from the river that melted one of the supports provided the final straw. A huge section of a collection arm broke away and fell into the lava, carrying the two Jedi with it.

Still the fight continued, even as the collection tower sank slowly into the lava. And still, neither man could gain an advantage.

But that’s not really true, Obi-Wan thought as he ducked and wove and parried. Both he and Anakin felt the anguish of their need to kill the other. But Anakin had turned to the dark side, and despair and pain strengthened the dark side. It gave him an advantage Obi-Wan could not match. Unless he let go of his own despair and let the living Force move him — the Force that bound all living things together, even Obi-Wan and this new, deadly, evil Anakin.

It was hard. It was, perhaps, the hardest thing he had ever tried to do. For in letting go of his anguish, his despair, and his pain, he would have to let go of the Anakin who was his student, his brother, and his dearest friend. He’d have to admit that this time, he could not save the man who had saved his life so many times, whose life he had saved at least as often.

Obi-Wan couldn’t do it. As the collection tower sank farther into the lava, he looked for a way to escape. A droid platform floated on air near the tower. Obi-Wan took another swipe at Anakin, then grabbed a hanging cable and swung out toward the platform. At the height of his swing, he flipped himself into the air, landing precisely.

The platform wobbled, but it held his weight. He leaned to one side, steering it away from the collection tower. Perhaps the sinking tower and the lava would do what he had been unable to finish.

But when he looked back, Anakin was standing on a worker droid, coming up fast. “Your combat skills have always been poor,” he taunted. “You’re called the Negotiator because you can’t fight!”

“I have failed you, Anakin,” Obi-Wan told him. “I was never able to teach you to think.”

Anakin nodded. “I should have known the Jedi were plotting to take over.”

“From the Sith!” Obi-Wan cried, shocked. “Anakin, Chancellor Palpatine is evil.”

“From the Jedi point of view!” Anakin retorted. “From my point of view, the Jedi are evil.”

The words stabbed at Obi-Wan, even though he knew that Anakin was speaking out of his own pain. He felt the dark side grow stronger, feeding on his despair. And then, as Anakin came close enough to swing his lightsaber once more, the Jedi in Obi-Wan rose up and at last he did the thing he hadn’t thought he could do.

He let go. Calm, centered, free — for the moment — of sorrow and despair, resting in the living Force as he had been trained to do, Obi-Wan Kenobi looked at his former friend and student, and did the unexpected. He made a soaring leap into the air and landed on the high bank of the lava river.

“It’s over, Anakin,” he said, looking down. “I have the high ground. Don’t try it.”

“You underestimate the power of the dark side!” Anakin shot back, and with the last word, he jumped.

And Obi-Wan’s lightsaber moved, slicing through Anakin’s knees and then coming up to take his remaining hand. Anakin’s lightsaber fell at Obi-Wan’s feet. What was left of Anakin fell on the burning black sand almost at the edge of the lava.

Source: Revenge of the Sith Junior Novelization

Notably, Obi-Wan himself conceded that whilst he'd make Anakin work for it, he would fall to Anakin's blade:

As Anakin’s lightsaber hummed toward him, a calm certainty filled Obi-Wan. Anakin was going to kill him. Oh, he’d make Anakin work for it. He’d fight with everything he had. But he was positive, with the sureness that came from any Force-driven insight, that he would die at Anakin’s hands.

Source: Revenge of the Sith Junior Novelization
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Ooooh. Noice! Do you think Anakin is > Yoda?

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Pretty good so far. I don't like those "most powerful Jedi ever" accolades though, especially when feats have several people above him. So I'm going to assume they all refer to potential in this case.

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@darthbane77: Thanks. This is just a prototype so I have the most important quotes and layout set out for me. There will be more to come.

@wollfmyth209: Thanks.

As for whether Anakin's stronger than Yoda? Not stronger than, personally, but definitely on the same level. He does have more raw power, though, definitely, and if we take the RotS novel's narration, he's also faster and stronger than Yoda (which isn't implausible, since he was hammering Dooku harder than Yoda ever did).

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@shootingnova: Well, Yoda was holding back against Dooku, or was hindered by a nexus that amplified Tyranus.

Still, Anakin only really started hammering Dooku when he got enraged. The two seemed close enough that Skywalker got knocked on his ass twice by Dooku and had to have Kenobi's intervention. Obviously, Skywalker is superior, but I'm not willing to say he's stomping Dooku. Though, this should still put Anakin on a similar level as Yoda, since Yoda only had a "slight edge" over Dooku. :up:

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@wollfmyth209: Depends on the source you take. The script makes it blindingly obvious that Yoda wasn't holding back - IIRC, he goes for the kill but Dooku stops him. The only one where he really seems to be holding back is the junior novel, tbh.

Anyways, I have to go to have dinner now. I'll work on this more when I come back.

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@shootingnova: Yeah, I can understand Anakin being faster and stronger because of his age and superior aug. Hopefully this RT will succeed in raising my opinion of Anakin, because I hold him as about equal to Dooku at the moment; and there are plenty of people I have above Dooku.

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@shootingnova: Meh, he was still hammering Dooku decisively enough on a DS nexus, so it doesn't make sense he was pressed that hard by Tyranus in AotC.

In any case, Annie is on a similar level as Yoda, yeah.

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@wollfmyth209: Didn't say he was hard-pressed by Tyranus?

Yeah, I can understand Anakin being faster and stronger because of his age and superior aug. Hopefully this RT will succeed in raising my opinion of Anakin, because I hold him as about equal to Dooku at the moment; and there are plenty of people I have above Dooku.

I'm pretty sure if you cared to read what was in this blog already, you'd realize he's far and away superior to Dooku.

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Disgusting.

Well, that's the most I'll ever get from you, so thanks.

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On mobile, sorry for the formatting.

Anakin is Father-tier if he lets go of his guilt and focuses enough:

"You must now release the guilt, and free yourself, by choosing!"

-The Father

"A series of tests proves that Anakin is capable of controlling both offspring, as the Father does, but Skywalker refuses to take the Father's place."

-TCW Episode guide: Overlords

Anakin is a Force nexus even as a kid:

"Qui-Gon noted the boy's extraordinary Force potential and believed him to be a "vergence" in the Force - a focus of power."

-The Dark Side Sourcebook.

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Here are a couple to consider, @shootingnova. Let me know if these are good enough. All the following quotes are from Labyrinth of Evil:

"Rooms distant, Dooku merely spread his hands in a gesture of greeting, and aimed his words at the holoprojector's microphone.

"Stand not amazed, young Jedi. Is this not the way you had your first glimpse of Lord Sidious?"

Instead of replying, Kenobi touched Skywalker on the arm, and the two of them began to scan the hall, no doubt in an attempt to locate him through the Force.

"You won't find me, Jedi - - "

"We know you're here, Dooku," Kenobi said suddenly - - and with irksome audio distortion. "We can sense you."

Dooku sighed in disappointment. They weren't hearing him. Worse, the video feed was also becoming hopelessly corrupted. More through the Force than the holocam feed he saw them moving toward the very doorway he had taken to reach the control room.

Exceptional, he thought. Despite his mastery of the Quey'tek technique for hiding oneself in the Force, they had located him! Ah, well then, time to entertain them, in observance of Sidious's wishes."

This includes Kenobi, but here we learn that Skywalker was able to detect Tyranus using the dark side to hide himself. Tyranus would have learned this from Sidious who had taught this to Maul. We know that Sids and Maul were able to use this technique so effectively that they were able to go undetected by the Jedi in the Jedi Temple. I am not sure if we are learning that Kenobi and Skywalker were stronger in the force in detecting this Sith ability than the other Jedi at the Jedi Temple that day, of if Tyranus wasn't as strong as other Sith who had employed it before. Either way, I think this shows that Anakin was strong enough to detect a Sith Lord using this force ability.

"More droids appeared. To Dooku, this was nothing more than a game, Obi-Wan told himself. But if it was a demonstration of Force ability Dooku wanted, then Anakin was still more than willing to provide it. "Dooku!" he howled.

With such force and wrath that the ceiling of the vast hall began to collapse."
...
"Dragging himself out from under plasteel girders and chunks of ferrocrete, Count Dooku came shakily to his feet and gazed in astonished disbelief at the shambles of the control room. Had the containment dome been so weak that it had succumbed to flurries of ricocheting blaster bolts, or had Skywalker's voiced rage actually called the ceiling down? Had Dooku not leapt forcefully at the last moment, he might have been buried, as the two Jedi were, somewhere below, in the expanse of rubble that covered the archive room. He was certain that they had survived. But if nothing else they were trapped, which had been the intent from the start. But Skywalker...

Assuming that he had grown powerful enough to have collapsed the dome, the end result was simply further evidence that he would someday undo himself. Wasn't it? Because admitting to any alternative explanation meant accepting that Skywalker was potentially a greater threat to the Sith than anyone realized."
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"Now he wasn't so sure. What if it should all come crashing down? he found himself thinking, as he dusted himself off and raced to exit the ruined facility. "

Here we learn that Anakin was strong enough that his anger and voice brought down a ceiling made of plasteel girders and ferrocret. Tyranus was not near Skywalker (remember above it said they were "rooms distant"), yet the cave in was large enough to affect Tyranus as well. We also learn that when Tyranus realized the power that Anakin had, Tyranus had second doubts about the Sith winning the war.

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@redheathen: Yes, most of that is good. Although I won't be including Force powers quite yet. I might do that tomorrow.

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@shootingnova: Eh, I meant more that since he was hammering Dooku on Vjun, it doesn't make sense he didn't do so in AotC unless he was holding back and whatnot.

I'm pretty sure if you cared to read what was in this blog already, you'd realize he's far and away superior to Dooku.

Eehh. Not really. I mean, Dooku knocked him on his arse and it took Kenobi to save him, despite being the former an unfavourable situation and it being in a novel that portrays Anakin as basically God.

An enraged Anakin is far and away superior to Tyranus, but baseline Anakin, while decisively ahead, shouldn't ragdoll or stomp him in a fight by any means.

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@wollfmyth209: Actually, the novel notes that Anakin was holding back his true ability. Palpatine was simply using anger to draw it out.

And an enraged Anakin isn't just "far and away superior to Tyranus". He basically won that fight by deciding he would.

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@shootingnova: Actually, the novel notes that Anakin was holding back his true ability. Palpatine was simply using anger to draw it out.

The novel states he's holding back his anger, not his true ability. And even then, Tyranus realizes the will over anger is what made him "stronger and stronger", which is why he exploited said anger.

And an enraged Anakin isn't just "far and away superior to Tyranus". He basically won that fight by deciding he would.

Isn't that how anyone fights? I doubt Anakin was just: "I mean, I could win, but then again... I'm kinda on the fence, since this guy was great in Dracula and Twin Towers so it'd be a shame to kill him." Anybody who's fighting decides it is their right to win, and that is what drives them to win.

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@wollfmyth209: The novel directly states that Dooku surmised that Anakin had a dread of his true ability, IIRC.

Most duelists don't just decide that their opponent's right hand is going to go, and then it does.

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@shootingnova: The novel directly states that Dooku surmised that Anakin had a dread of his true ability, IIRC.

Which can, and likely is, referring to potential. Also, quote, please. So far, I'm only seeing Dooku realize something made Anakin stronger and stronger, and then realizing that is because he kept his anger in check behind walls of will and dread.

Most duelists don't just decide that their opponent's right hand is going to go, and then it does.

But they do decide that they want to win, which drives them. I doubt Anakin was on the fence the entire time, he just got extra motivation from Sheev when Tyranus knocked him down a few pegs. Though, it is hard to interpret since Stover has his head up his own ass whenever he writes.

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@shootingnova: Are you really taking Stover's words litteraly? I mean, the entire novel is full of hyperboles (or whatever you call it) and other sources describe the fight quite differently

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@darthduelist9: Taking what literally? I'm obviously not citing things like the "force of meteors". Stover declaring that Anakin was holding back some of his strength is obviously literal.

I'll respond to Wollf later.

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@shootingnova: Anakin deciding he was going to win against Dooku and that kind of stuff. My other point still stands, the RotS duel is depicted differently across other sources, Stover's novel is not law.

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@darthduelist9: Anakin deciding he would win against Dooku could be literal, but honestly, the stompage at that point was so great that it could be entirely literal.

Also, be careful with the hyperbole card. The novel was, after all, personally edited and approved of by George Lucas.

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@shootingnova: Sure but where do you draw the line? Stover's more hyperbolic way of writing things, especially in the RotS novel, makes it quite difficult to judge that.

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@darthduelist9: That depends. Regardless, the point of this thread is to include anything of note. If you want to dismiss something on justifiable grounds, you can do that in a versus thread when it gets brought up.

Which can, and likely is, referring to potential. Also, quote, please. So far, I'm only seeing Dooku realize something made Anakin stronger and stronger, and then realizing that is because he kept his anger in check behind walls of will and dread.

But they do decide that they want to win, which drives them. I doubt Anakin was on the fence the entire time, he just got extra motivation from Sheev when Tyranus knocked him down a few pegs. Though, it is hard to interpret since Stover has his head up his own ass whenever he writes.

1. What you said about fury was right, but Dooku considered it an integral part of Anakin and his natural ability, anyway. But say it's a morals off fight - Anakin would indeed allow those "walls of will" down and unleash his fury on his opponents. This only has bearing in a morals on encounter.

Skywalker leapt from the balcony. Even as the boy hurtled downward, Dooku felt a new twist in the currents of the Force between them, and he finally understood.

He understood how Skywalker was getting stronger. Why he no longer spoke. How he had become a machine of battle. He understood why Sidious had been so interested in him for so long.

Skywalker was a natural.

There was a thermonuclear furnace where his heart should be, and it was burning through the firewalls of his Jedi training. He held the Force in the clench of a white-hot fist. He was half Sith already, and he didn't even know it.

This boy had the gift of fury.

And even now, he was holding himself back; even now, as he landed at Dooku's flank and rained blows upon the Sith Lord's defenses, even as he drove Dooku backward step after step, Dooku could feel how Skywalker kept his fury banked behind walls of will: walls that were hardened by some uncontrollable dread.

Dread, Dooku surmised, of himself. Of what might happen if he should ever allow that furnace he used for a heart to go supercritical.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

2. Not sure what you mean. Nobody can just cut off their opponent's hand by simply willing it (virtually). Which was the extent of the discrepancy between Anakin and Tyranus, though as you said, this may be a classic case of Stover hyperbole.

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Nice, but some of these sources that say Anakin is stronger in the Force than the rest of the Jedi are references to his Force potential, not the current power he has achieved.

But on the other hand, here's a quote that says out of Obi-Wan and Anakin, Anakin was reportedly the superior warrior.

"The ease with which Kenobi had taken command of the situation was frightening. More frightening was the fact that of the two, Skywalker was reportedly the greater warrior." - Revenge of the Sith Novel.

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#26  Edited By ShootingNova

@yousufkhan1212: Yeah, that's worth putting in.

And potential is raw power. What you do over life is accumulate knowledge and mastery to wield that power more effectively. The only way you can actually increase your power is by deepening your connection to the Force, or by letting it grow in response to specific stimuli. You can only sense someone's current raw power, not the power they will achieve in time (that would be foresight, an entirely different thing).

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@shootingnova: What you said about fury was right, but Dooku considered it an integral part of Anakin and his natural ability, anyway. But say it's a morals off fight - Anakin would indeed allow those "walls of will" down and unleash his fury on his opponents. This only has bearing in a morals on encounter.

So we're discussing morals off? That's fair; but morals on, or standard morals, whichever, has the two as being close enough for Anakin not to stomp him.

2. Not sure what you mean. Nobody can just cut off their opponent's hand by simply willing it (virtually). Which was the extent of the discrepancy between Anakin and Tyranus, though as you said, this may be a classic case of Stover hyperbole.

But he didn't will it off; he didn't just pull a Jesus, say: "You'll hand is gonna fly, boi!" and Dooku's hands just popped off and ran to star in an Addams Family film. He used his lightsaber -- i.e. an extention of a person's will over/power of the Force as per numerous sources -- to sliced them off. Basically, he was pulling a Bane vs Kas'im situation, only Drew is overly simplistic where Stover is vague as fuqq.

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@wollfmyth209: Essentially, morals on is Anakin at the start of the fight. Morals off is Zonakin.

lol I know that, I'm just saying that he basically decided that Tyranus would lose the same hand that he took from Anakin three years earlier, a moment later, he snipped the hand off effortlessly.

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@yousufkhan1212: Yeah, that's worth putting in.

And potential is raw power. What you do over life is accumulate knowledge and mastery to wield that power more effectively. The only way you can actually increase your power is by deepening your connection to the Force, or by letting it grow in response to specific stimuli. You can only sense someone's current raw power, not the power they will achieve in time (that would be foresight, an entirely different thing).

I'm not disputing the fact that Anakin has more raw power (higher Force potential, more Midichlorians, whatever you want to call it), I'm just saying that these quotes don't prove Anakin has succeeded everyone on the Jedi Order.

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@shootingnova: Very true. But in a fight, standard morals are to be expected, and a standard-moral Anakin isn't stomping Dooku, which is my point.

So Anakin has a bit of poetic justice and precision to him; he still isn't Jesus to will everything he wants when he decides to ala the Beyonder of WF Mxy.

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@shootingnova: I'm going to read it soon, I was busy last night with something else so I only had time to skim.

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@shootingnova: OK, after reading through it I can see why Anakin would be above Dooku. Most of these Force accolades still most likely refer to potential instead of actual realized power though, because there's no way base Anakin could defeat Sidious, Yoda, and several others. But, you did successfully raise Anakin above Dooku for me; so that's something.

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@darthbane77

Anakin was always above Dooku though. That much was established firmly. But I agree on the other two points. Seems like actualized power and potential are being confused here.

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@lordofthelight: I didn't know too much about either Dooku or Anakin until recently, which is why I had Dooku above him; based solely on what I knew at the time. Now I know better haha.

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@lordofthelight: I did, and initially thought Anakin was>Dooku for a while, but I was convinced by somebody that the only reason Anakin won that fight was because Dooku's use of Dun Moch backfired and sent Anakin into the Zonakin State.

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Phenomenal work! I was wondering, do you think these accolades put Anakin above Yoda? The quotes for Yoda generally describe him as the greatest practitioner of the lightside/opponent of the dark side, so since Anakin has had issues with the dark side in the past, wouldn't Anakin be excluded from those?

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#38  Edited By LordOfTheLight

@darthbane77

Actually Palpatine's statement put Anakin into the Zonakin state. Dooku's Dun Moch, actually succeeded and hindered Anakin for a while( it is written point blank in the novel actually). Although to be fair, the time Anakin's blows were actually starting to have an effect that large, was after Obi Wan had been force pushed out, so that may very well have amped him. Before that, even while Anakin stopped fooling around, and got serious, Dooku didn't get that fazed by his power( he did note that Djem So gave Anakin an edge over his Makashi, and remarked that his form did not generate the power to effectively face a master of Djem So head on), in fact, he only actually starts to get scared after Obi Wan reveals his trump card too.

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NOVA, YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE. IT WAS SAID THAT YOU WOULD DESTROY THE CANCER, NOT JOIN IT. BRING QUALITY TO THE BOARD, NOT CAST IT FURTHER INTO SHIT.

YOU WERE IDOL NOVA, I RESPECTED YOU.

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@lordofthelight: Interesting, thanks for info. Definitely changes my outlook on that fight.

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@shootingnova: Might I recommend adding the fact that Anakin was immensely more powerful than Shaak:

Shaak Ti was at the Jedi Temple when Vader attacked, and narrowly escaped death at the hands of the immensely more powerful Sith Lord.

The Official Star Wars Vehicle Collection #51

Now, this is RotS Shaak, but she's still considered a worthy replacement for Yaddle(someone who moves too fast for pre-AotC Kenobi and Skywalker to percieve, can hold back a massive water-flood, and has been compared to Yoda) and I doubt her improvement up to TFU(where she's besting an army-buster, and being canonically placed as far above another army buster and someone who can bring down a factory) would be good enough to go from being immensely less powerful to comparable.

Just something of note. :)

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#43  Edited By LordOfTheLight

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There is also a quote that says that Dooku, having expended all of his energies into dispatching Obi Wan, was left helpless before Anakin's "rage". In the main novel, he was tiring even before they had stopped fooling around.

To begin with, Anakin and Obi-Wan did well, pushing Dooku back and destroying the B2 droids.Realizing that each Jedi was a threat on their own, Dooku abruptly switched tactics. He lifted Obi-Wan in a choke-hold, simultaneously kicking Anakin out of the way and hurling Kenobi across the room, bringing down a section of walkway to trap him there. However, in expending all his energy to dispatch Kenobi, the Count was left helpless before Skywalker's rage.

Credit: The Official Star Wars Starships and Vehicles Collection#3

I'll inform you though, that even though this is a newer source and an out of universe one, Stover's novel was edited and approved by GL himself, and the wording used there, "may" contradict what is said here. Which quote you assign priority to, I'll leave it to you.

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@ordeith

Someone seems angry!! Anyways direct it, not at Nova but at DarthAnt66. He is the one who masterminded this!! I'll assume you have a proper counter for it?

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#47  Edited By Azronger

@shootingnova: Pre-suit Vader's Force abilities were considered "unparallelled" as of Operation Knightfall:

"Palpatine elevated himself to the position of Emperor, and dispatched Vader as his ultimate enforcer. With his unparalleled Force abilities, Vader swept through the Jedi Temple."

-Databank (old): Darth Vader

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@wollfmyth209: (and @ordeith) Anakin far twice as powerful in ROTS than he was in AOTC. As to the TCW clips, I think what i just said applies to that as well. He was able to take on Tyranus in ROTS by himself whereas he and Kenobi combined couldn't defeat Tyranus in AOTC.

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@ordeith: I understand the sentiment, but with such a number of accolades, would it be fair to assume they're all wrong or referring solely to potential (i.e. future power level, not mastered power)?