@straight-fire: They are stretched thin this year, it's either pay off the critics or RT's audience score and they picked the latter.
RT alone probably demanded less money than critics. It is already far more difficult to write a professional review of a film as a critic than a casual one as some internet user, to write a rave review for a movie you only pretend to enjoy is even harder. Of course critics would demand a fortune if they are putting themselves at reputational risk.
Lets not forget that some critics may actually take their profession seriously and have more integrity. Eventually, passion would take precedence over higher income.
@ghostodoofus2: lol Star Wars was actually acquired by Disney from Lucasfilm on 2012 which was actually an independent production company before this. Same case for Indiana Jones.
@saiyan_ross: Star Wars was mostly fine until Disney took over and sacrificed the lore for propaganda. Indiana Jones 5 is one of the biggest flops ever.
@death4bunnies: That's only the case for Disney films, sometimes they bribe the critics and other times the RT technicians. I can still trust both sets of RT scores for, say, John Wick or Dune films but if I need to validate the quality of Disney films, I check the user scores on Metacritic.
Those bunch of stooges at Disney only ever hit a lottery once in their life time. And that's with MCU. Otherwise there is no single shred of originality as well as creativity to ACTUALLY create by their own shit. Only thing that they can do is buy and pay to own those shit that they can't even dream about creating their own. So yes I totally agree with Ghostodoofus paying those critics. Same way they already bought all those film rights to blockbusters or commercially popular franchises.
If they were bribing critics I seriously doubt if they'd mysteriously stop taking the money.
If they were bribing anyone there'd be insane backlash like there was for that tiny indie company doing so for a couple dozen reviews lol. Must be the greatest cover-up in history if thousands of people can keep it under wraps
@death4bunnies: That's only the case for Disney films, sometimes they bribe the critics and other times the RT technicians. I can still trust both sets of RT scores for, say, John Wick or Dune films but if I need to validate the quality of Disney films, I check the user scores on Metacritic.
Lol but you believe bad scores for Disney but think any good score(even in its past) was paid critics.. then tell us please don’t look at the audience score?
Come on mate.. you can see the humor in that.. right?
@death4bunnies: Bruv, I'm telling you not to be fooled by the audience score. It's what Disney does now, they do the bare minimum on the creative side of filmmaking but market the shit out of their new films like it's the next best thing. Their quantity over quality business model may have worked before when consumers consumed Disney without question but relying on your brand name alone can only sustain them for so long.
Just read the positive audience reviews for this film or heck, the reviews for Obi-Wan Kenobi, Thor: Love and Thunder or Indiana Jones 5, on RT then tell me they don't resemble reviews of paid shills you see on infomercials for some vacuum cleaner.
You know it's ironic, Disney is woke but can't wake up to reality. They'd rather gaslight detractors than admit to their ineptitude.
@death4bunnies: Bruv, I'm telling you not to be fooled by the audience score. It's what Disney does now, they do the bare minimum on the creative side of filmmaking but market the shit out of their new films like it's the next best thing. Their quantity over quality business model may have worked before when consumers consumed Disney without question but relying on your brand name alone can only sustain them for so long.
Just read the positive audience reviews for this film or heck, the reviews for Obi-Wan Kenobi, Thor: Love and Thunder or Indiana Jones 5, on RT then tell me they don't resemble reviews of paid shills you see on infomercials for some vacuum cleaner.
You know it's ironic, Disney is woke but can't wake up to reality. They'd rather gaslight detractors than admit to their ineptitude.
Lol yeah you’re trying to say ‘bad scores are real but good scores are paid shills’ … even the old MCU movies.. it’s funny, take a step back and you will see it’s funny. … based on ‘just read the reviews‘.. I leave corny reviews here and there, and like the movies, so not real evidence?
I'm sorry but the idea that Disney unironically pays for reviews is actually ridiculous. It would have to be one of the greatest covers of all time, and frankly, if it was done on the scale you're constantly implying, the FTC would have delivered the rock bottom on the company a while ago. It's just not feasible regardless of your opinion of the company as a whole.
The problem is Disney has to make a tremendous volume of content to attract subscribers to Disney+, which is limiting their ability to devote enough resources to each individual project.
If Disney+ didn't exist these films would have more time to be developed. They would have greater access to vfx that is basically being rationed, would have less pressure to hit certain windows to avoid competing with other company projects, and they could be more selective over scripts, actors, directors, etc. etc.
Disney can scale down on the volume of content they produce the way Warner Bros Discovery has, but the likely affect is we'll see the Disney+ subscriber count drop the way Max has.
@death4bunnies: Bruv, I'm telling you not to be fooled by the audience score. It's what Disney does now, they do the bare minimum on the creative side of filmmaking but market the shit out of their new films like it's the next best thing. Their quantity over quality business model may have worked before when consumers consumed Disney without question but relying on your brand name alone can only sustain them for so long.
Just read the positive audience reviews for this film or heck, the reviews for Obi-Wan Kenobi, Thor: Love and Thunder or Indiana Jones 5, on RT then tell me they don't resemble reviews of paid shills you see on infomercials for some vacuum cleaner.
You know it's ironic, Disney is woke but can't wake up to reality. They'd rather gaslight detractors than admit to their ineptitude.
Lol yeah you’re trying to say ‘bad scores are real but good scores are paid shills’ … even the old MCU movies.. it’s funny, take a step back and you will see it’s funny. … based on ‘just read the reviews‘.. I leave corny reviews here and there, and like the movies, so not real evidence?
PS: I like woke... could use more of it imo.
I would've argued back but upon reading this, I know it's futile. Guess we are just fundamentally different; if you're happy with woke, good for you.
You are free to like whatever you like, I can respect your right to do that even if I don't like what you like. No grudge here, we may be ideologically opposed but it's nothing personal man.
@wastelandman: Oh God, that little bastard was insufferable. By the time he made his sacrifice, I was basically thinking "Good, stay dead" at that point. Truly heart breaking that he lived.
@death4bunnies: Bruv, I'm telling you not to be fooled by the audience score. It's what Disney does now, they do the bare minimum on the creative side of filmmaking but market the shit out of their new films like it's the next best thing. Their quantity over quality business model may have worked before when consumers consumed Disney without question but relying on your brand name alone can only sustain them for so long.
Just read the positive audience reviews for this film or heck, the reviews for Obi-Wan Kenobi, Thor: Love and Thunder or Indiana Jones 5, on RT then tell me they don't resemble reviews of paid shills you see on infomercials for some vacuum cleaner.
You know it's ironic, Disney is woke but can't wake up to reality. They'd rather gaslight detractors than admit to their ineptitude.
Lol yeah you’re trying to say ‘bad scores are real but good scores are paid shills’ … even the old MCU movies.. it’s funny, take a step back and you will see it’s funny. … based on ‘just read the reviews‘.. I leave corny reviews here and there, and like the movies, so not real evidence?
PS: I like woke... could use more of it imo.
I would've argued back but upon reading this, I know it's futile. Guess we are just fundamentally different; if you're happy with woke, good for you.
You are free to like whatever you like, I can respect your right to do that even if I don't like what you like. No grudge here, we may be ideologically opposed but it's nothing personal man.
Fair… same to you.. I can respect your opinions even if they differ from mine… then again I think Sharknado 3 is high cinema so I’ve been told i might not be the best judge.
@death4bunnies: Bruv, I'm telling you not to be fooled by the audience score. It's what Disney does now, they do the bare minimum on the creative side of filmmaking but market the shit out of their new films like it's the next best thing. Their quantity over quality business model may have worked before when consumers consumed Disney without question but relying on your brand name alone can only sustain them for so long.
Just read the positive audience reviews for this film or heck, the reviews for Obi-Wan Kenobi, Thor: Love and Thunder or Indiana Jones 5, on RT then tell me they don't resemble reviews of paid shills you see on infomercials for some vacuum cleaner.
You know it's ironic, Disney is woke but can't wake up to reality. They'd rather gaslight detractors than admit to their ineptitude.
Lol yeah you’re trying to say ‘bad scores are real but good scores are paid shills’ … even the old MCU movies.. it’s funny, take a step back and you will see it’s funny. … based on ‘just read the reviews‘.. I leave corny reviews here and there, and like the movies, so not real evidence?
PS: I like woke... could use more of it imo.
I would've argued back but upon reading this, I know it's futile. Guess we are just fundamentally different; if you're happy with woke, good for you.
You are free to like whatever you like, I can respect your right to do that even if I don't like what you like. No grudge here, we may be ideologically opposed but it's nothing personal man.
Fair… same to you.. I can respect your opinions even if they differ from mine… then again I think Sharknado 3 is high cinema so I’ve been told i might not be the best judge.
It's all good, I myself am more entertained by The Room than most films. "You are tearing me apart, Lisa!"
If they were bribing critics I seriously doubt if they'd mysteriously stop taking the money.
If they were bribing anyone there'd be insane backlash like there was for that tiny indie company doing so for a couple dozen reviews lol. Must be the greatest cover-up in history if thousands of people can keep it under wraps
@ghostodoofus2: I seriously do believe certain(or most) critics sites and youtube channels do get paid by the mouse. Like, 'Lightyear' in the 'Top 10 best movies of 2022'? Good one, watchmojo. Either they really don't know anything about movies, or there's something else.
@agmine570: Disney's been losing money rapidly, they can't afford to bribe anymore and the less they can bribe critics, the worse their movies will bomb. Vicious cycle, but they got themselves into it.
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