Credit to This guy. Other Galaxy, who did Part 1 better than I did.

I'm honestly, not sure how I didn't see this. Scans collected from here to the end of this section are from discord and other sources. I deeply apologize for not researching further, and investigating where the information I used came from.

Parts 2, 3, 4, and 5 will be my own original work, with credit going to everyone.

Canon-

More of a mini section, but it's important to start this off in order to get anywhere with TF scaling. To put it bluntly, in Transformers everything is canon. This means crossovers, one off comic covers, toy bios that contradict other official material, and in some cases even unproduced material, or material that was never officially published entirely! Transformers leans very hard into an "anything can happen" philosophy with its multiverse, and unlike its contemporaries rarely if ever retcons things out. In fact the opposite tends to happen, where retcons are more commonly used to add further context into previously vaguely explained events. TF wiki puts it nicely.

In theTransformersbrand, as a result of editorial choice and the multiversalnature of the Transformers brand, canon is both extremely complicated and extremely simple, depending on how you look at it. The only reliable metric for determining the canonical status ofTransformersfiction is whether it was officially licensed/approved or not. If so, it is canon... forsomecontinuity. If not, it is not canon at all.

Even the last has caveats however, for example, in the officially sanctioned Ask Vector Prime facebook Q&A panel, Vector Prime answers this regarding canon.

Q: Dear Vector Prime,

What is the multiversal status of stories that were never officially 'produced' in this universal stream but about which details are known like for instance the TransTech franchise that was to follow Beast Machines or the planned Dreamwave issues.

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A: Dear Apocryphal Adept,

That depends entirely on the story. Some are the true and accurate conclusions of the events of the primary universes, such as the Dreamwave issues. Others are microcontinuities or even absent from the multiverse all together.

So in some cases, and this will be important later, unofficial stories are still canon. What's important for now is just to know that everything has its place, somewhere in the multiverse .Somewhere being the key, you cannot cross-scale from one universe or continuity to another haphazardly, only a select few characters benefit from that sort of thing, and they are generally in the cosmic bracket. In Transformers, everything exists in a timeline whether it's the "main" one or a "branch" one, and this will be examined extensively later. Generally speaking, comic tie-ins to a movie or cartoon are usually considered to take place in branch or splinter timelines. In this sense, a piece of media not perfectly tying in with another can simply be handwaved as different outcomes in two different universes. This happens a LOT and it's important to keep that in mind before trying to apply a feat or scaling from one piece of media to another.

One notable exception is the Collector's Club's opening storyline Balancing Act, which explicitly does take place in the same universe the Cybertron cartoon happens in.

Multiverse Origins-

Like many stories, Transformers has its own "multiverse" setting, however unlike its contemporaries, there is no clear single explanation for how it came about. There are however, two eyewitness/on-page accounts from characters who witnessed it, reliable statements from other cosmic characters that corroborate this, and stories from omniscient narrator perspectives that add further context.

I will start with Primus' own accounting of the origin from Marvel's Transformers #74. While this has been iterated on many times, largely this is the most consistent and complete on-page origin we have received.

Next we have Vector Prime's answer on the multiverse's origins. Here he highlights three potential origin points, and even implies they may have all somehow happened at once. Funny thing about that, from all available evidence...this looks to be the case.

Dear Vector Prime,

Do you or the Transtech have any idea how the multiverse came into existence?

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A: Dear Fledgling Physicist,

There are many theories about how multiverses originate. Some more mathematical than others.

In some circles, it is believed that the entirety of the Cybertronian Multiverse can be traced back to a single instance - often dubbed "the Big Bang" by humans. At this moment in time, the time that time began, a random explosion of homogeneous particles littered a singular, primordial universe with "inflatons". These inflatons spread themselves throughout the void, planting the seeds for matter to form. As the life-span of the inflaton is not one that is long-lived (from the quantum perspective that is), the inflatons began to decay, and from the dying inflatons came all the more familiar particles that matter interacts with today. Importantly, that moment when the first inflatons began to decay and started to form other particles, they also formed a group of particles collectively known as "observers". This is important since the inflatons themselves have neutral quantum vibrations, but begin to vibrate when in proximity to observers. These vibrations then generate a "bubble" effect, and those bubbles begin to inflate and form pocket universes. Some of these universes stay together in the initial cluster, but others begin to bud off and form their own clusters, completely individual from the first. The process continues over countless millennia until a multiverse such as ours is created*.

*Remember though, the inflatons are not immortal particles, and it takes an event as powerful as the Big Bang to create them. So according to this theory at some point, the expansion of the multiverse will slow and come to a halt.

Another theory is more philosophical. Existence began with The One. The One was existence - harmony and discord, order and chaos all existing in perfect balance in a state without time. It was this way until The One created entity known as Unicron. (There are countless more theories as to why it did so). The One then split Unicron into two and formed Primus. The latter inherited all of the qualities of Order, while the former retained near-every aspect of Chaos. So it was that existence was created outside of The One, and the split that formed Primus split this new existence, forming fragments in the void that would grow to create the many parallel universes in our multiverse.

One last theory, as philosophical as the prior, posits that a multiverse was always in existence. Right from the beginning of time, there were already multiple versions of our history. These versions, much fewer than we know exist now, sat and stewed before a powerful external force - let us name this force "The Forest Leer" as it was the first to see that original untidy thicket of trees and the potential it had to become a mighty and expansive forest - transformed these histories by the sheer will of identifying and classifying them. This spark of creativity was all that was needed to organize what had come before, and to build upon it exponentially until our multiverse became what it is today.

Take from these theories what you will. One may be correct or, somehow, all could have coincided at once. Even in my wisdom and vision of all time and space, I do not have a single interpretation for how time and existence started. Time travel, by its very nature, requires time in which to travel. Attempting to visit an era without time is futile.

Vector Prime posits three unique and contradictory origins of the Transformers multiverse. However, we can actually prove to some degree that they are all true, which Vector does note is a possibility as well. Contradictions are extremely common in Transformers lore, but rarely does one explanation outweigh another. Instead, what we can do is look at all sources and see what has been reiterated time and time again. For example...

Transformers Cloud material reveals a multiversal big bang occurred that birthed countless universes, as Vector theorized above..

Transformers Cloud

https://web.archive.org/web/20170504042805/http://takaratomymall.jp/special/tfcloud/story01_00.html

Prologue

It all started when space was created…

A great number of universes were born after the terribly great explosion that was enough to nullify everything. Because every single universe possessed a “Time Stream”, it resulted in the expansion of areas between universes.

The second origin however, is also true. We see this played out in the comics directly. Vector Prime elaborates though and states that the creation of Primus had the side-effect of creating the multiverse. Thus we can assume the multiversal big bang was actually the result of The One, the supreme being of Transformers, creating Primus out of Unicron

Simon Furman elaborated on the Marvel origin in more detail during Reaching the Omega Point #1

The beginning, strictly speaking, was the end. The end of an entire universe, one that had existed long before any modern measurement of time began. It was the twilight of the gods, beings of pure energy that had grown to a point where nothing was beyond them. They were omnipotent, almighty, boundless. But, as it turned out, not all-seeing.

Otherwise, they might have noticed that one of their number had taken to calling himself the devourer of worlds. Though as it happened, worlds were merely an aperitif to the banquet that was to follow. Its name was Unicron, and its terrible hunger drove it to wipe all life from this old Universe. It consumed its fellow gods (not immortal either), planets, galaxies, even space itself, until there was nothing. Satiated, it finally slept, alone in the void.

But tenaciously, life hung on, and through a massive effort of will it began a subatomic chain reaction that built and expanded, gathering gaseous momentum with each explosion of primal forces. Until ultimately, it birthed a new Universe, created new life. And with this creation came a protector, a counter-force to the threat of Unicron. Its name was Primus.

However, it soon became apparent that this fragile new universe was not meant to contain beings as powerful and elemental as Unicron and Primus. Their battles laid waste to countless fledgling star systems, destroying the very life Primus had been created to protect. And so, a plan was borne. One that would, if successful, both end the current threat of Unicron, and, ultimately, safeguard the universe for generations to come.

Primus intended to lure Unicron to a reality that existed as an extension of the mind, beyond the physical form. There, Unicron would all but triumph, and scenting final victory would blindly pursue the retreating Primus. Unicron would not, until far too late, realize that, instead of returning to their energy forms, their psychic essences had materialized inside dead metal asteroids, where they would both be trapped for all eternity.

But like all good plans, a dry run was needed. Especially as all this was simply the precursor to a much grander and far reaching scheme. And that was where the Covenant came in.

There are some key details added here, notably that the absence of the Light and Dark Gods is explained...Unicron devoured his entire species along with the Old Realms.

The One creating Primus from Unicron was confirmed in the Simon Furman's Transformers DK Guide

Note, while the original Marvel G1 comics (and other early material) refer to all this as the birth of one universe, this was retconned extremely early on into the birth of the multiverse itself. As you can see on the above page, it refers to Unicron and Primus' original battle taking place as they spread across many realities. This is what I meant that retcons in Transformers rarely remove material outright, only add further context. The Marvel G1 origin is actually the strongest point either Primus or Unicron have yet to reach in Transformers canon due to repeated retcons expanding the scope of those few pages these stories were covered in.

The final origin is a meta reference to writer Forest Lee, who oversaw much of the cosmic aspect of TF fiction at the time. Forest Lee both wrote the Transformers Collection Club early fiction, which dealt heavily with the multiverse, and pioneered the "Multiversal Singularity" concept that would define many of Transformers' strongest and most important characters. The "Forest Leer", while rarely mentioned, seems to be a force for order in the multiverse.

Scope/Size of the Multiverse/Megaverse-

The name multiverse is misleading, as Transformers uses the terms "multiverse" "megaverse" and "omniverse" to not necessarily denote scale. Multiverse in this case simply refers to all Transformers fiction, as in-universe other fictions are merely considered other multiverses. Megaverse refers to universes outside of, but tangentially related to Transformers, while the omniverse dwarfs Transformers and contains numerous unrelated realities. This has grown more complicated however by the revelation that Shattered Glass, a "reversed" continuity, was all along a multiverse in its own right. Furthermore, other recent material has considered the multiverse to be composed of other multiverses. In context, this will make sense as I explain further, due to Transformers making extreme use of the idea of branch universes, essentially making each universe a spawning point for multiverses.

The multiverse itself is divided into "Universal Streams", which are for all intents and purposes, just universes. In Transformers, a single universe is (bizarrely consistently) considered infinite in size.

(Source is from TFCC Balancing Act #1, check it out)

“Had I been able to spend enough time with Optimus before he left our battered planet in search of the AllSpark, I might have had the chance to tell him that … to explain to him what the gladiator who once called himself Megatronus knows intuitively, that an infinite universe contains infinite opponents by definition.”

Transformers Retribution (p. 8)

I have yet to find a statement for any universe in Transformers being finite in size, it's always referred to as infinite or endless, and so on. Though there is a phenomena when a universe ends where it may become finite and infinite simultaneously (somehow).

Q: Dear Vector Prime,

Could you tell us about the distant future of the Viron universal cluster?

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A: Dear Cosmological Commentator,

Certainly. In some streams, the fundamental constants and makeup of the universes are such that they will eventually experience a Big Rip, with the scale factor of the universe becoming simultaneously finite and infinite. Some, a Big Crunch, with all matter collapsing upon itself. Some, an entropic heat death, a perfect equilibrium of matter and energy, punctuated by the last hydrogen atom decaying into a burst of energy, and then nothingness. Of course, all of this is billions of years in the future. Your people and mine will have long since passed on by this time, so (barring time travel) we will not be there to experience it.

And then there are those TINY sliver of Viron universes where, with enough of Earth's children united in purpose, even the end of everything can be forestalled.

There are an infinite number of these universes, stated at several points, primarily in comics.

(TFCC Balancing Act, #3)

Windrazor! But how-?!”

The Maximal from the far future, a future that would never be, smiled benignly at Maximus. The reality that Shokaract created was destroyed, and by all rights I should have been as well… but Primus had other plans.You pulling me through the transwarp gate to your own reality enabled him to bring me safely into the Allspark. You may consider me… a spirit guide, in a sense.

“You were sent for me? To assist me?”

I’m afraid not. I am needed… elsewhere, elsewhen. As you are no doubt aware now, there are endless realities in all of existence. Primus watches each, ever vigilant against his brother Unicron. His children are in need. I must go soon to assist other Matrix Templars as Alpha Trion assisted you… but I had to see you one more time, let you know what became of me.

(Wreckers: Finale)

Another confirmation of there being Endless Realities, but also that Primus is watching all of them. (A big part of this story is that Primus draws Unicron to eat a universe like a beacon, so there's an explanation for why he isn't more active in conflicts across the multiverse.)

Anything that can happen, does happen, in addition to the infinite reiteration, as its own universe.

Transformers x Back to the Future also confirms that purely hypothetical universes also exist.

We also have two other confirmations that all possible versions of the universe exist.

Vector Prime also confirms that the Multiverse is "Limitless"

Q: Dear Vector Prime,

I understand that, as the multiversal Keeper of Space and Time, it is rare for you to interfere with the affairs of a single universe. When you do need to focus your attention on one universe, who guards the Multiverse to ensure that other beings don't wreck havoc in whichever universe they so choose?

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A: Dear Guardian Gabber,

It is true that the multiverse is a limitless place, and that one being, however non-linear his or her perception, cannot possibly hope to protect it all. However, I am far from alone in my quest. The Cloud World Autobots, the Alternity and Flaternity, the Quantum Operatives Skids and Screech, Heinrad and other servants of the Time Walker, even the TransTech are all able to, to varying degrees of alacrity, perceive and rectify multiversal threats.

Since the Marvel G1 era of Transformers, actions are stated to spawn whole new realities.

We actually see this happen at the end of More than Meets the Eye's Elegant Chaos arc (Issues 36-38), where Perceptor states their hijinks gave birth an infinite number of branch universes.

Connected to the main Multiverse is the Megaverse, tangential connected universes/multiverses to Transformers' own. Crossovers largely fit into this category. For example, universes like Takara's various Brave series (GaoGaiGar etc.) are in the Cymond Cluster, which straddles the multiversal/megaversal border.

Q: Dear Vector Prime,

Are Diaclone, Micro Change, Beetras, Brave, Armored Trooper Dorvack, Mechabot-1, Macross, Zoids, Starriors, etc. part of the multiverse? What are their streams called?

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A: Dear Crazy Classification Clarifier,

There is a tenuous thread connecting some, not all, of what you mention with the core Multiverse. Though the TransTech have yet to identify any of these realities, some of which predate the Multiverse in its current form, when they do so they are destined to label them the Cymond Cluster.

The beast Hytherion originated in a distant, DISTANT future of the very first of these streams, Cymond 772.0 Beta, a desperate weapon unleashed by the Terminators against the Originators against the backdrop of the Big Crunch. This stream, along with the offshoot Cymond 381.0 Beta, seems to be the linear ancestor of the earliest manifestations of the Multiverse, with many archetypical Cybertronians having distant analogues in one of these two realms.

As the Multiverse first coalesced, other Cymond realities came into existence. Cymond 1184.0 Gamma seemed to take shape alongside such Multiversal backbones as Primax 984.17 Alpha and Primax 984.0 Gamma. And yet, the Wastors and Cosmittors and Trashors of this stream seem only tangentially related to Cybertronians, at best.

After the basic structure (pre Forest Leer, of course) of the Cybertronian realities had settled, other Cymond streams sprang forth. Now convergence seems to begin. In Cymond 290.03 Alpha (and various echoes), many Cybertronian body forms are present. And so on. Some streams run closer to the Multiverse as a whole. Some, further. It can be difficult to tell if drift is from coincidental quantum oscillation matches, as with Omniversal dimensions, or from normal trans-dimensional harmonic resonance. The Malgus Cluster has seen bodyform overlap with Cymond 999.04 Alpha, but why? Especially curious is that this reality and many sister timelines sprang fully formed into the Multiverse between the spawning of Primax 206.24 Gamma and Primax 706.05 Gamma, an abrupt acosmogenesis event ricocheting backwards and forwards in temporal dimensions.

The TransTech will attempt to classify these Megaversal mysteries and more, with varying degrees of success. And, as this will be long-past Nexus Prime's drastic actions, their abilities to visit such realities will be greatly curtailed. Perhaps that will be for the best.

Q: Dear Vector Prime,

What cluster do the Animorphs fight in?

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A: Dear Scholastic Spirit,

The Animorphs are outside the Multiverse, though occasionally close enough for a small bit of reality drift. The TransTech do not generally have the equipment or inclination to track everything in the Megaverse.

The Omniverse is a bit different. It has actually been mentioned in the early 2000s, but has only been sparingly referenced in Transformers since then. Vector Prime's basic explanation is as follows.

Q: Dear Vector Prime,

I know this may seem like a strange question, but what's outside the Multiverse?

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A: Dear Insightful Instigator,

That is an excellent question. Outside of the Multiverse that you and I know is the Omniverse, comprised of other Multiverses. Though there are millions of realities within the Cybertronian Multiverse, there are uncountable realities, numbering in the tens of quadrillion. Occasionally, the quantum-string vibrations of one of these universes drift close enough for one of them to temporarily merge with a reality stream in my domain.

You see, not every reality has physical and psychic constants compatible with Cybertronian (or human) life. In fact, the vast majority do not. The Multiverse of realities that we can perceive is but a tiny slice of the number of realities that exist. Curiously, while every reality compatible with Cybertronian life thus far observed is also compatible with humanity, the converse is not the case. It would seem that Cybertronian-compatible dimensions are a sub-set of human-compatible dimensions. Exactly why that should be the case is unclear to me.

One could also consider the interstitial spaces between realities as being outside of the Multiverse, though this is largely a matter of semantics. This Unspace can assume many different properties, depending on the point and method of entry as well as other, more esoteric variables.

In short, reality is a strange place, with wonders and horrors beyond imagination. It is only natural for my species (and yours) to attempt to name, label, classify and clarify, build a taxonomy. But there will always be realms that defy understanding, always be mysteries left to uncover, always be exceptions to every rule.

Isn't it glorious?

Now note Vector bizarrely claims the TF multiverse is "only" millions of realities here, but he contradicts himself on this about 5 other times where he refers to it as "limitless" or "infinite". In this same passage that he states its realities are in the "tens of quadrillions" he specifically namedrops Uncountable Infinities again in reference to it. Thus we can conclude the omniverse utterly dwarfs the main multiverse.

The big question here is, does anyone scale to this at all? The answer is something along the lines "Probably."

Q: Dear Vector Prime,

Would the death of a universal stream's Primus be guaranteed to destabilize the spacetime of the universal stream?

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A: The death of any deity is virtually guaranteed to send shockwaves rippling forwards and backwards through the quantum foam underpinning that reality. Witness the impact on timestreams near what you might refer to as Primax 787.3 Alpha. An omniversal reality was pulled into quantum-string vibrational alignment with their reality, allowing the people of the distant reality of Planet Sandra to make contact. Beings especially attenuated to the lifestream matrices of Vector Sigma, such as Godmessenger and Godmaster, acquire multiple conflicting histories and futures. Other streams that might otherwise be unrelated are pulled into probability vortex left by Cybertron's absence, their string vibrational eigenstates orienting to create one massive unified timeline where before there were many. Dimensional fragments from other clusters were duplicated wholecloth in this OG Reality, with completely different fermion modality, creating entirely new dimensional streams identical but for cosmetic details!

Q: Dear Vector Prime,

I'd love to read Blueshift's paper, concerning the hybrid reality Gong and Sideways made if you still have it.

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Deep in the core of Cybertron, Gong stretched forth his senses, connecting to the Omega Locks that kept Cybertron's place in the cosmos stable. He mused on Cybertron's unique nature, a stable axis upon which a universe spun. No wonder Unicron in all its incarnations sought its destruction. Gong favored no such carnage, merely seeking mischief. He found the frequency at which the one-dimensional strings that make up all of this particular reality vibrate, then, ever so gently, he nudged them towards that of his home dimension. The change would be invisible to the natives. As far as they were concerned, the conjoined reality would be their history, their reality. He giggled to himself, wondering what changes were taking place on the surface of Cybertron and beyond.

Interestingly, there seem to be two more, slightly competing streams that wend their way through the entirety of the reality system; Primax 1206.0 Beta and Primax 807.11 Zeta. It almost seems as if some extra-dimensional being or beings attempted to impose order on a system shattered by MegaZarak's destruction of the stable axis of this reality; perhaps The Source or the Chronarchitect or the Alternity or even the Swarm or an evolved Humanity tried to pick up the broken pieces of these timestreams and haphazardly glue them together.

At the very least this would confirm the god tier characters' range extends that far (Unicron, Primus, and The One at the least, likely no one else). We next have these statements from the Vok.

For all intents and purposes, the Vok are omniscient. They exist across all divergent realities, consciousness, dimensions, and they 1. are subservient to Primus (the grand plan is of Primus' doing not The One, referring to Primus as The One is just a sort of odd quirk this comic has) 2. state quite clearly Unicron's agents (subservient and miniscule in comparison to himself) are a virus on the omniverse. There is another notable, and more clear, example of this but it requires its own section.

Tree of Life-

The Tree of Life is an esoteric concept appearing in Bob Skir's short story Singularity Ablyss. Its pops up again in Beast Wars: Uprising, establishing it firmly as still canon. The Tree has tremendous implications for Transformers' cosmology, and thus its tiering. As I understand it Bob Skir is of Jewish faith, and drew heavily from Kabbalah for this story regarding the Transformers afterlife, the Allspark (also called the Matrix and later called Afterspark)

The Kingdom is the corporeal plane, in Angel-Rhinox's words it is "less than a fraction of the top of an iceberg" and "the surface of the mirror, a vehicle for creatng an image that yet contains neither mass nor value"

As far as interpretation goes, this cannot be referring to "just" this universe among many, because they are ascending past it in the story. Reality is below them even as they reach the absolute base of the Tree of Life, and Rhinox even says that "The Kingdom is a mere facade behind which lies the larger world" and "All that you experienced in the Kingdom was mere metaphor for the journey ahead"

"Reality is one of those concepts you are going to have to relinquish"

So the multiverse as we know it seems to be at the base of the tree. We can confirm this isn't simply some kind of higher dimension because those are not connected to the afterlife at all, they are simply places where higher beings like the Alternity or the Omega Guardians live, with the latter's corpse even becoming a nexus of various universes. Higher dimensional entities still live and die, while the tree is a point of existence beyond death, firmly separating it from other beings and planes we have seen thus far. The biggest reveal here is that reality, universes, dimensions, etc. are a mere metaphor compared to the fullness of Primus.

I can go into the depths of the tree and each layer if you'd like, but there are about 6 other layers between the Kingdom, and the crown.

Allspark described as omniscient and omnipresent, as well as infinite. BW Megatron is so full of himself he decides to kill himself and an Angel rather than join the Allspark. He survives and decides he's going to absorb every spark he can and try to take over the God Head. Obviously this doesn't work, but his last lines are pretty cool.

The Allspark is an aspect or the essence of Primus, and is where all sparks come from, and it utterly dwarfs the multiverse as we understand it to the point it deems it a metaphor for a more real form of existence (and this was before Megatron ever encountered the Crown, which he never merged with or fully understood). Massive implications for cosmology here, as Primus is essentially only the lesser half of Unicron.

Apart from being >Primus who is reigns above The Tree Of Life, Unicron himself has many accomplishments.

Apart from standard things already covered like Unicron's battle with Primus and his consumption of the Old Realms

Destroying an iteration of Unicron doesn't help much, as it can result in black holes that threaten the entire multiverse

Unicron also eats universes forwards and backwards in time, from the big bang to the big crunch, making it as if they never existed

Q: Dear Vector Prime,

How many universes were greatly damaged by the Unicron Singularity, at least to your knowledge?

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A: Dear Singularity Student,

I'm not sure this is a quantifiable number. Once Unicron has completely consumed a reality, there is little that remains to prove it was ever extant. Some philosophers have argued that, as Unicron is known to devour a reality forwards and backwards in time, then the very act of existing proves that the Singularity will not consume their reality. This is known as the Weak Cyberic Principle, the selection bias for consciousness. The flaw in this argument is, of course, that though Unicron may consume an entire reality, from the big bang through the big crunch (or entropic heat death, depending on the specific constants involved), those who escape to other realms, or whose consumption was witnessed by extradimensional visitors, may yet live on, in memory if nowhere else. Primax 703.09 Gamma is a good example of one such ravaged stream.

And according to Vector Prime, even single iterations of Unicron can span multiple universes

Q: Could Unicron Beat the Death Star?

A: That depends. Most instances of Unicron are expressions of an abstract force of nature,some spanning multiple universes. These instances could easily defeat the transforming battle station of Lukas 577.25 Beta. However, against non-singularity instances of Unicron with more mundane origins, such as Primax 984.17 Alpha or Viron 704.08 Gamma, Darth Vader's amazing mech would most probably prevail.

But Unicron is stronger still, because the Star Saber, which can destroy the entire transformers multiverse/omniverse cannot kill him. I'll write more on The Shroud later, but even that didn't actually kill Unicron.

Q: Dear Vector Prime,

Did the Vok hide the Origin Matrix on prehistoric Earth of Primax -408.24 Epsilon?

A: Dear Artifact Annalist,

If you are familiar with the Origin Matrix, you know that it was once the hilt piece on the "Star Saber" A sword carried by fellow member of the Thirteen, Prima. The great hero hefted the truly fearsome weapon in our conflicts against our foe, the Dark God Unicron.

Unicron, as well as multiversal singularities in general, are completely beyond time. As a result, the physical limitation Primus placed on Unicron doesn't stop him from destroying the multiverse, he is functionally omnipresent even though he can allegedly only enter one universe at a time

Some funny things that boost Unicron are stuff like-

Vector Prime is fully aware he is fictional and claims we are equally fictitious

Q: Dear Vector Prime,

Knowing that you are a fictional character in the Quadwal cluster, and that from that perspective, everything you do say and experience is a figment of multiple author's imagination, how do you cope with that potential existential crisis?

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A: Dear Angst Augurer,

I do not see this as especially problematic. After all, there is a fictionalized version of you running around approximately 20% of fiction set during your lifespan that is depicted on television, in movies, and in books. Does it cause you to lose sleep that there is a version of you off-screen in the universe represented by The Good Wife, or that an alternative version of you was slain in the latest Romero zombie apocalypse film?