PlagueDocter

The World Goverment win handily.

A Vacuum by Ju Peter and Roar by Warcury drops a majority of Whitebeard's forces while Saturn could bomb them with his Poison Explosive Spit which would kill any who got hit. One Elder could take on Old Beard while the others just sit back and relax.

CP0 has Guernica, Maha, Joseph, Stussy, Kaku, Rob Lucci as masked agents and non masked aganets like Jabra, Blueno, Kumodori, Fukuro, Kalifa. They could take on the commanders if needed (they won't).

@gaoron: Why is anything I said wrong... can you disprove any of it instead of just saying a whole bunch of nothing.

In fact just try to disprove Pacifista lasers being light/laser beams/lightspeed I dare you (hint you can't and to attempt so would be in direct opposition to every facet of the source material and what we've been told for the past like decade+).

@shirso: @gaoron:

Bruh... why does this even need to be argued over it's just a fact that One Piece has numerous rela/LS/FTL/+ scaling, etc...

Anime, Manga, Databook... etc all showcased Germa 66 (a scientific kingdom who can literally clone people) with tech (their Raid Suits) that make you at least lightspeed and with the likes of Ichiji even directly outspeeding his own lasers which is an FTL feat.

We have rando New World fodders PostTS going FTE to people who even halfway through PreTS have been dodging lightning as shown in my 56# post regarding the Dwarves of the Tontatta Kingdom.

Then there's the laser tech of the Pasifista's which are based off Kizaru who is natural light (logia) which were made by the smartest man alive in One Piece (Vegapunk) whose a perfectionist to boot.

The are said to be the same, they look the same, they have been compared to Kizaru's and Kizaru's compared to theirs, they are light, they are beams (which are light and move at lightspeed)... Kizaru is directly said to be, light, logia, is lightspeed, etc to which he can accelerate even furthur.

To act as if One Piece don't got great speed feats/scaling shows an egregious lack of comprehension. They have a wealth of lightspeed/etc and up feats and what not. There's Enel, there's Foxy, there's Kuma's Paw Cannon's, there's Pacifista's, there's Germa 66, there's Kizaru, etc just depends where you wanna start off really.

@pics:I just want to step in and show more regarding the fact that New World is a whole different beast than PreTS if you don't mind...

You brought up the Minks but there's even the Dwarves of the Tontatta Kingdom who are stated to have comparable strength to Franky/Kyros and speed to go FTE to PostTS Robin/Ussop (who are well into at least relativistic speeds by then) and the Dwarves are ALL that powerful more or less...

And yet Doffy's officers like Sugar, Lao G, Gladius, etc can blitz the Dwarves and manhandle them despite them going striaght for the attack...

And they aren't even an elite officer let alone the captain being Doffy...

Just a thought I wanted to share especially as they are explicitly FTE to Robin/Ussop who have been reacting the lightning and lasers even PreTS.

OT: Shanks is more than sufficiently fast enough and to top it off he has Observation Haki and advanced Observation Haki to read their intent and the literal future (up to 10s) Shanks should be definitely able to swing his sword and hit Empty Void especially at full speed as stipulated for this scenario. One Piece speed meta starts real early and has thee most and most quality speed feats right in the manga than the rest of the HST on top of having multipliers aswell.

Bump

Short story: No.

Long story: Does Bugs Bunny need to abide by real life logic, no.

There's real life logic and in universe logic as long as the logic in the universe is consistent and makes sense then it's fine but if you have a grounded mystery thriller story based on real life but suddenly aliens which is Sci-fi that's just jarring it doesn't make logical sense in the story established unless there's some valid reason or foreshadowing to integrate it.

But ofc some stories aren't meant to follow logic or any some such and are supposed to be ridiculous or nonsensical (ie Jabberwocky).

Warcury handily. Oden literally cannot even hurt Warcury nor can he get pass his Immortality anyway.

Minimum planetary ranges (small planet at least though probably well above that).

Huh?

Saturn soloes... he shoots his poison spit bombs and basically they all die or glares and over half are dominated or dying and since he's immortal can teleport, coat his legs in poison, etc he will win.

Stops round one against Ryokugyu.