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2022 X-Men Telepathic Tier List: Low Tier

Welcome to the final update on the 2022 X-Men Telepathic Tier List.

This time we have the daunting challenge of discussing our rankings for the Low Tier telepaths.

Now, before we go any further it's important to note that "Low Tier" doesn't mean weak. In fact in a handful of these cases it's just the opposite. Most members of this Tier are psychics who either lack raw power, skill or just a decent number of feats in a certain area in order to make it to a higher tier when compared to other psionics in the franchise, that said in the end what they were judged on the most was how they stacked up against each other and their betters as all around psychics. Everything from combat, to skill, to unique showings and range were factored in and their anti feats assessed and measured.

Again it's VERY important to note that Low Tier doesn't mean weak since many of these characters have solid performances against some of our best psychics and impressive feats in their own right....however that doesn't excuse their failures, limitations or anti feats.

All-in-All this was a rough time for the PsiViners collective to try to crunch together this section of the 2022 Tier List as characters here had very specific strengths and weakness that didn't always line up for an easy comparison of "who's better?".

Still the despite it all the we came together and were able to put together the final part of our list with some confidence.

With that said, lets remember our rules:

1- Feats > Statements- For one thing it's how the Comicvine battle boards work, but in a world where everyone from teenagers like the Cuckoos and Teen Jean Grey, to one scene wonders like Gamesmaster, are considered to be "among the strongest minds on the planet", its hard to take vague statements about power at face value, especially when most characters on this list have been defeated by others without nearly as much effort as you'd think.

It is important to note though, that statements still hold a lot of value especially if they are supported by feats and aren't easily contradicted by showings. And depending on who's making the statement...it may be more valuable than a bucket of mid level feats

So, for the last time this year let's remember our rules:

2- Telepathic Strength = Raw Power + Skill + Unique Factors- It's been stated, and even shown, that some characters, despite having seemingly limitless power just aren't good enough to hang with an opponent who knows what their doing or is smarter and more skilled then them. Similarly a character can be both skilled and possess huge power but still not be able to contend with a special ability or unique trait of a character like a hivemind, psi link or astral form.

When a person's skill set, power level and unique factors are added together that's how we decide how "strong" a psychic is overall.

3- Being an Omega doesn't mean much - at least not without the appropriate showings to back it up. A very important, if seemingly redundant point. While yes, several characters are stated to be Omega level mutants, it doesn't mean much when they've lost to or been unable to protect themselves from non Omegas. It's not an automatic win, nor does it automatically imply superiority to non-omegas

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  • Opening up the tier list in it's number 1 spot is the tricky Mesmero.

    Mesmero is the perfect example of what's to come in Low Tier. For the majority of his existence Mesmero's psionic abilities were limited to hypnotism. He was for the most part only able to control people when he made direct eye contact with them, and while he did have psionic energy at his disposal he was very limited in it's use outside of mind control.....but then Weapon X was able to increase his power levels to the point where he was considered one of the most powerful mutants on the planet with both telepathy and mind control being amplified to immense levels.....and mind you this was years after he'd managed to control teams of X-Men and 2 different Phoenix host....because he didn't need his amp to do that.

    Now with all of that said, why isn't he higher up on the list? Well Mesmero has a massive downside in that despite his great power he was absolutely fodderized by Rachel Grey at her base power levels...and while he was later able to effect and control her, that was mostly do to outside forced making her vulnerable.... In fact while his mind control has always been exceptionally potent (see: controlling Jean Grey & Rachel Summers as Phoenix host) his actual psychic powers in a fair fight haven't given anyone trouble since the 60s.

    Still, in any situation when you don't see him coming, you are in serious danger regardless of your tier.

    Some reasons he belongs here:

    - Mind controlled Phoenix Jean Grey and the X-Men

    - Mind controlled Phoenix Rachel Summers and Excalibur

    - After his amp controlled an entire Bosnian army to walk into the desert and commit suicide

    - Shielded himself and his team from Rachel Grey & Cerebro

    - After exploiting her damaged powers, was able to mind control Rachel Summers into taking out a whole team of X-Men.

    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/respect-mesmero-2017951/

  • The Black Queen of the Hellfire Club...

    Selene is a unique character, in that her psychic powers stem from both her unspecified mutant powers as well as her status as a long lived semi-magical being.

    While primarily mind control spells and hypnosis are her go to psychic powers, she has shown true telepathy and the ability to go at with psychics over the years.

    There's no doubt that Selene is a force to be reckoned with with several feats of fighting a young Rachel Summers, some one ups on Emma Frost and even a exchange with the Hulk under her belt....but most if not all of her feats lean more toward skill then power, with a young and starving Rachel Summers fresh out of a Interment Camp giving her a run for her money even with surprise, while a young Dani Moonstar has repeatedly brought her down with illusions and psychic attacks that Selene really should've been prepared for.

    The real problem with Selene is that her best psychic feats were against the 2nd generation of X-Kids and they've all massively improved over the years whereas Selene's limited appearances have made it so even her most recent losses were 2. power ups ago for some of her opponents.

    Still, with magic, hypnosis, illusions, and telepathy...Selene's got a handful of psychic tricks...it's just not her best bet.

    Some reasons Selene deserves this spot:

    - Was able to use her magic to battle Emma Frost telepathy for control of a man....his head exploded.

    - Withstood several attacks from an enraged Phoenix Rachel Summers.

    - Took control of Emma Frost and forced her to rejoin the Hellfire Club

    - Locked Teenaged Rachel Summers and Magma in a mind link and had them fighting to defend her for a time.

    - Brought Grey Hulk to his knees with a psiblast

    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/selene/4005-2176/forums/external-queen-of-hellfire-black-queen-selene-gall-2076070/

  • Another of the worlds oldest mutants....Krakoa's Apocalypse is number 3

    With Apocalypse comes a challenging case of the 80s supervillain. He, like Selene, Magneto, Dr. Doom, and half the big name villains of the day had some form of mysterious psychic power to him in one way, shape or form that was eventually forgotten and mostly ignored in favor for his more standard powerset. However while Apocalypse's rare psychic showing would be forgotten about, he would become pretty well known for having incredible psychic defenses, able to block out the X-Men psychics even near death with showings against the powers of Jean Grey, Psylocke, Cable and others on his list of mental nosells.

    Apocalypse would mainly be known for controlling people through unknown means of brainwashing when he turned them into his horsemen. This has never been shown to be telepathic as we've seen everything from his blood to Celestial technology be the driving force behind the transformations of the horsemen, but never a definitive reasoning for their subconscious connections to him afterwards. And moreso then that we've seen him distinctly use technology to help him possess people or to transform them into his new host body.....

    At a certain point if you had asked any member of PsiViners if they seriously considered him a telepath of any note, most of them would've said "nope" and moved on.....I mean the guy didn't even have the power to enter the astral plane on his own at one point....so that should end the talk, no? No!

    The Krakoan Era (and the Age of X-Man before it if we're honest) gave Apocalypse some of his first solid TP feats in ages with showings of raw power, skill and some nice range feats to boot.....but while that's always an interesting addition, a big part of the reason he actually got ranked is because even without those new Telepathic showings, big blue still has some of the most insane mental defense on the list...which kinda makes it hard to argue around him even with limited showings.

    A few solid TP feats + utterly ridiculous defense....is a formula that can overcome alot of the question marks on a otherwise generic 80's power use.

    Some reasons he deserves this spot-

    - Did I mention the sheer number of telepaths that he's defended from? Jean Grey, Onslaught, Psylocke, Cable, Rachel Summers...etc

    - Telepathically connected to Rictor who was trapped between universes.

    - Controlled hundreds of people in London to embrace love and affection in the Age of X-Man.

    - Pulled Hulk into his memories.

    - When seperated from his body his psyche has repeatedly dominated others for control of theirs

    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/apocalypse/4005-7612/forums/external-god-of-the-fittest-616-apocalypse-respect-2239134/

  • Mastermind's daughter....Mastermind

    The older sister of Regan, Martinique was actually introduced first to the X-Men books as a highly powerful psychic opponent and has consistently showcased power levels above and beyond what her Father was capable of.

    In fact, Martinique may very well be the most powerful person in the low tier with some great defense to boot.

    The downside for Martinique is that she doesn't even have half the appearances of younger sister...and that's not saying much, so it really does hurt her when she gets anti-feats despite some truly impressive showings under her belt. She'd probably be high tier if she had more appearances, but alas she's a one an done in most showings.

    Reasons Martinique deserves this spot-

    - Trapped the entire city of San Francisco in a psychic illusion of the 60's for days and possibly weeks with the effect growing as she went on. Only those with psychic shielding could resist the effects.

    - Repeatedly blocked Emma Frost from contacting anyone in San Francisco, entering her mind or breaking her hold on the city for a time.

    - Despite being trapped in a machine for months that used her powers to control X-Corps members half a country a way, was still powerful and aware enough to drag Chambers consciousness into her mind and manipulate him.

    - Able to trick Cable and the other X-Men team for a time despite his powers.

    - Repeatedly stated to be more powerful then her sister and Father despite their feats.

    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/martinique-jason/4005-15167/forums/daddys-little-mastermind-a-martinique-jason-wyngar-2079742/

  • Mastermind's daughter....Lady Mastermind

    The younger sister of Martinique, Regan is a different animal all together. Where Martinique has powerful feats on large scales, Regan seems to be more limited but far more creative in her applications of her powers.

    While she's probably the weakest of the Mastermind's she's got way more showings then her sister and alot more interesting psychic exchanges to examine and unlike her dad and sister we've got some confirmed growth in her power levels to support her case as well.

    Ultimately though she's not on her dad's level of skill or her sisters level of power so she's not gonna make it far in a direct comparison to them.

    Reason's Regan deserves this spot-

    - Created a massive illusion of Fin Fang Foom attacking a city that led to the military being called.

    - Trapped Lifeguard and Sage inside Sage's own mind using illusions so real they would both die if they were killed in the mindscape.

    - Surprise attacks and locksdown Emma Frost with an illusion of chains and restraints for a time.

    - Forced a Mummumdrai out of her mind after breaking through it's mental blocks.

    - Despite being near death from M-Pox was able to enslave a building full of people so they would die with her when she did.

    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/respect-lady-mastermind-daughter-of-the-illusionis-2047070/

  • Blindfold is....scary.

    While her primary power is actually precognition, her abilities were found to be beyond that and she's proved it more and more through her interactions with Legion. Between the two of them they managed to make eachother much more manageable both as people and as characters with Blindfold having gotten some of her best feats against or with the help of Legion.

    That said she's VERY limited in her showings of telepathy with on panel statements about her potential actual implying that she still had some work to do on her self before we actually saw what she truly capable of.

    Why she should have this spot-

    - She turned off Legion's powers with a thought.

    - Resisted Legion's merged mind trying to absorb her astral form.

    - With her full power unlocked was able to temporarily down the 3 in 1 Stepford Cuckoos.

    - Consistently able to sense things other telepaths like Emma Frost, the Stepford Cuckoos and Legion cannot

  • Tessa aka Sage

    Sage is a very difficult character to get a handle on in a Tier list. Her classic appearances had her as a vaguely psychic, mostly really analytical character who eventually evolved into a full blown psychic in the 90s. Claremont later wrote her as an X-Man who's computer brain let her do everything from download information to the internet, to process the weak point in objects to....seeing and manipulating peoples bio chemistry.....yea.

    At a certain point Sage became an unhackable, uncontrollable and unrivaled mind who was stated to have been born with indomitable willpower backed by training from Charles Xavier to give her unrivaled defenses......but of course we've seen her controlled by Karma, turned off by Esme Cuckoo, and mindscrewed for a time by Lady Mastermind.

    And that's just the mid & low tiers....

    Add to that the fact that she rarely uses her telepathy and that by her own admittance she "is not much of a telepath" and we've got a situation where a strong mind isn't necessarily a powerful psychic but is capable of some really surprising feats.

    Reason Sage deserves this spot-

    - Contained the memories of Roma and all of the minds from the multiverse that Roma had absorbed.

    - Restrained Shadow King and trapped him in her head and then inside his host body.

    - Broke into the mind of Nate Grey empowered Madelynn Pryor

    - Blocked and later broke the control of Bogan over herself and others despite Bogan controlling Emma Frost and Rachel Summers at different points.

    - Her psi scream overwhelmed 90s Jean Grey and Psylocke

    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/sage/4005-4559/forums/the-mutant-memory-file-a-sage-respect-thread-2046726/

  • M. aka Penance aka Monet St. Croix....

    Monet is a....funny story. For years Monet has been highly critiqued by the PsiViners group for being one of the least powerful psychics among X-Men characters by showings and isn't helped that a good deal of her early appearances aren't actually her....strangely enough this has actually helped her to stand out a bit more compared to her contemporaries.

    A student of Emma Frost, alot of her early feats that we examined seemed to vaguely or directly scale off of Emma while alluding to her own special knack for telepathic shenanigans that often surprised Emma.

    As we moved later down her history M's got a handful of notable skill feats and impressive defenses that make a good case for her. And it kinda helps that she's got the confidence to mock High Tiers like Jean Grey and Rachel Summers for not measuring up to her standards.

    Still Monet might be surprising, but ultimately her telepathy is limited heavily by a lack of use, with some of her best runs mentioning it only in passing or using it for everyday things, hopefully we'll see more use in the coming years....but for now? This is the perfect spot for M on the list.

    Reason M deserves this spot-

    - Broke free of and later freed Emma from Adrienne Frost psychic memory trap.

    - Read the minds of the X-Men team despite Teen Jean Grey shielding their thoughts

    - Broke through Exodus' mental blocks put on his mindslaves.

    - As a child repeatedly blocked Emma Frost from reading or manipulating her mind.

    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/m/4005-40460/forums/supergirl-meets-veronica-lodge-penancemonet-st-cro-2261592/

    - Discovered memories in Polaris' head that had been blocked and rewritten by Mastermind as a child despite Jean Grey, Emma Frost and Xavier having previously worked to repair Polaris' mind.

    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/m/4005-40460/forums/supergirl-meets-veronica-lodge-penancemonet-st-cro-2261592/

  • Martha Johanson aka No-Girl aka Cerebella.

    Martha Johanson is....a problem.

    Years of background appearances and only small periods of attention have left her power levels inconsistent and even her best showings with question marks on how consistent she is.

    The low showings are massively low, with things like being bullied by a Quentin Quire who was utterly curbstomped by the Stepford Cuckoos. Or being unable to hide her presence from a room full of guards. We have to take the bad with the good and there is ALOT of good....she just isn't as impressive as even her debut would've led you to think.

    Reasons Martha deserves this spot-

    - Her "psychic chafe" attack negates mutants powers and even shut down Emma Frost in diamond form.

    - She was able to steal the knowledge of Spiderman's secret identity from Rachel Summers mind.

    - Her psibolt killed Zero one of Hope's Lights.

    - Was able to mind swap 5 people at once repeatedly and later to possess a dead body after training with Shadow King.

    - Powerful enough to burn out 4 of Mojo's psychics that were trying to restrain her powers.

    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/no-girl/4005-41121/forums/psi-brain-in-a-bowl-616-cerebella-no-girl-martha-j-2224484/

  • Oracle....the Shiar Espur....sigh.

    We're gonna have to be frank about this one....mistakes were made.

    Oracle has the largest drop of any telepath in the tier list this year do to a reexamining of her feats that did her no favors.

    Everything that was previously said about her was true and remains true, however context is key....and theres alot of context to her best feats.....mostly that she needed surprise or help to pull off what ultimately was something pretty minor to begin with.

    She's the victim of being surpassed by the telepaths she was originally introduced to compliment and then being toyed with by their students.

    Her best showings would barely rank for even most people among mid tier and unlike most of them, she doesn't have a High Tier name to drop to defend her case. So Oracle is WAY on the bottom this time around.

    Reason's she desrves to be ranked-

    - Destroyed a room with telepathy after making psi contact with a brood.

    - She shut down Teen Jean's pink form briefly

    - Shielded the Imperial Guards mind from Phoenix Echo boosted Rachel

    - Blocked out Mantis and Cosmo the spacedogs telepathy

    - Defeated Cosmo in a TP battle

    Oracle's RT:

    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/oracle/4005-6093/forums/the-imperial-espur-oracle-respect-thread-2054356/

  • Last but not least comes the biggest problem child of our list...the new Psylocke, the psychic ninja Kwannon.

    Kwannon's ranking here comes with acceptance that in the very near future she will likely shoot up the list and make any reasoning we make for this placement seem innaccurate.....that said, until that happens we need to be honest about what we're working with....which isn't much.

    Kwannon's best showings are mostly against people we didn't bother to rank and usually with the help of High Tiers in some large way. She lacks any redeeming raw power or skill feats beyond her psychic knife and...well....the psychic knife doesn't do much to help her considering the lack of feats that hers actually has. She's really done very little worth mentioning so far even considering her classic appearances.

    Still, we accept that Kwannon is one of the most prominent mutants on Krakoa at the moment and certainly in the franchise getting huge levels of exposure across the x-titles as a headliner since the beginning. Suffice to say any day could be the day we all shut up about Kwannon but until then she's our last but not least.

    Reason she deserves this spot.-

    - Took her some time, but she broke free of Mastermind's control

    - Broke through to and contained a traumitized Betsy's Psi-ghost

    - Was able to stun Malice controlled Emma Frost with her psychic knife.

    - Was able to partially undo Emma Frost's mindwipe on Wolverine.

    - Her death from the Legacy Virus sent a psychic shockwave around the world

    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/psylocke/4005-9709/forums/psychic-ninja-assassin-revanche-psylocke-kwannon-r-2021120/