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    The Amazon princess, blessed with god-like super abilities, Wonder Woman is one of Earth's most powerful defenders of peace, justice, and equality and a member of the Justice League. She is considered an archetype for many heroines outside of comic book. Her initial origin depicted her as a clay baby brought to life by patron goddess Aphrodite, but in recent years she has been depicted as the daughter of Zeus and Amazon queen Hippolyta.

    The Better Wonder Woman: DCAU or Animated New-52?

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    ganon15

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    Poll The Better Wonder Woman: DCAU or Animated New-52? (119 votes)

    DCAU 69%
    Animated New-52 31%

    Which incarnation of this amazon was/is portrayed better?

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    #1  Edited By CSG_CL

    I like the look of DCAU much better, but I think the N52AU version has the potential to be amazing. DCAU (especially Timm-verse) version was always significantly nerfed, so far N52AU version doesn't seem to be ... I wish her role in ToA had been a bit more significant, but it's an AM movie so I need to get over myself :)

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    #2  Edited By FoamBorn

    The new look looks like something out of an Anime, even Mera looked like she borrowed that jumpsuit from Chun Li. It's difficult to choose between ToA and JLU, neither were portrayed satisfyingly well imo.

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    #3  Edited By ganon15

    @foamborn: What were your grievances about both portrayals?

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    @csg_cl: The way the DCAU version was nerfed is laughable. The 2009 animated was nerfed too but at least she showed more bad-assery and had a better personality. I liked her in JLW even the look not that great but the way she was beating thise parademons and kicking Darkseid's butt was awesome.

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    @zhurong: yeah, I'd like to see the DCAU look matched to the kick@ss War power level. She was closest to this IMO in the SM/BM:Apocalypes film.

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    @csg_cl: Pretty much. I enjoyed how WW and Barda were working together well. That's why I want Barda to be in N52 WW's series. Diana was good in Brave and the Bold. I liked how she oneshotted Cheetah and saved Steve Trevor from her claws lol.

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    @zhurong: yeah, that was a fun depiction too

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    @ganon15 said:

    @foamborn: What were your grievances about both portrayals?

    The new Wonder Woman is not very well fleshed out yet but she seems a bit goofy and I'm not big on this new design though I've made peace with it. I like how powerful she is though. In JLU she was constantly losing but she had a strong, zesty personality which is how I like my Wonder Woman.

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    @foamborn: Her romance with Batman was annoying though

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    DCAU for me. I couldn't care less for her Animated-52 counterpart.

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    New 52. I found DCAU Wonder Woman to be quite unappealing, personality-wise.

    I like how Post-Flashpoint, she seems to actually enjoy herself and overall she seems like a far more fun character, with the kind of attitude I think a young woman who people call "Wonder Woman" would have.

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    #13  Edited By youknowwhattodo

    DCAU Wonder Woman is my choice of the two, even though her and John Stewart were the two most underwhelming members of the core JL on that show. John was just boring and in the case of Diana, if you didn't know much about Wonder Woman going into the DCAU, I don't think you learned that much more about her. Wonder Woman really needed to be the more focused (in terms of development) of the trinity because she didn't have her own show to define her character, but Diana really didn't do anything interesting. When you look at the audiences perception of Wonder Woman in that series, what ultimately stuck out in everyone's mind was BMxWW, and when you consider how little there was to that 'romance' and how Batman was essentially Bruce Timm's self-insertion character for the show, that is an indictment on her portrayal. There were some positives, from a personality standpoint, she was written well and Susan Eisenberg did a fantastic job with her voice. Overall though, DCAU Wonder Woman was disappointing, Shayera was the better character of the two.

    In terms of Animated-52 Wonder Woman, the only good thing about her is that she does some badass things but that's really it and I need more than feats to get engaged in a characterization. She's poorly developed (which is actually a problem for all of the JL members save Cyborg) and the romance with Superman is rushed. Big, power-couple romances are much better served being developed in a weekly format rather than in a movie, unless that film is singularly devoted to building that romance. I still think she has potential here, but Wonder Woman along with most of the characters in the JL need more focus.

    Honestly, I don't really care for any of the JL Animated-52 characters save for Cyborg and Mera.

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    #15  Edited By youknowwhattodo

    @mysoulz said:

    @youknowwhattodo: I'm actually surprised that you actually care for Cyborg lol.

    I didn't think I would either because he's not exactly the most engaging character, but he was the only character that I identified with in JL:War because he was one of the few rational minds in that sea of buffoonery and after pushing myself through Throne of Atlantis, I kinda felt bad for the guy. Not just because he is half-man, half machine, but he also has to work with this incarnation of the Justice League.

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    I have such a thing for the animated New 52 Wonder Woman, that it's an obvious choice for me.

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    DCAU

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    @ganon15 said:

    @foamborn: Her romance with Batman was annoying though

    Her relationship with Superman's worse, I don't really know what to make out of that restaurant scene but to me Wonder Woman comes across like the credulous alien girlfriend that didn't really grasp what was going on. Similar situations have taken place in sm/ww and Lobdell Superman's run.

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    @foamborn said:

    @ganon15 said:

    @foamborn: Her romance with Batman was annoying though

    Her relationship with Superman's worse, I don't really know what to make out of that restaurant scene but to me Wonder Woman comes across like the credulous alien girlfriend that didn't really grasp what was going on. Similar situations have taken place in sm/ww and Lobdell Superman's run.

    I hate both and prefer the trinity not to date each other. I enjoyed her romance with Steve Trevor though in the WW2 episode of Justice League and the 2009 movie

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    @ganon15: I agree about the not dating the Trinity ... But am indifferent to Steve too ... I say she should date a cosmic entity like the Spectre (jk)

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    @ganon15 said:

    I hate both and prefer the trinity not to date each other. I enjoyed her romance with Steve Trevor though in the WW2 episode of Justice League and the 2009 movie

    For me Steve was too old for Wonder Woman, I'm a bit sick of old men getting young girls whereas women's tits turn to raisins. I also didn't like that she eventually embraced traditional female roles like going shopping, wearing heels and having to have doors open for you like you can't open them yourself.

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    @foamborn said:

    @ganon15 said:

    I hate both and prefer the trinity not to date each other. I enjoyed her romance with Steve Trevor though in the WW2 episode of Justice League and the 2009 movie

    For me Steve was too old for Wonder Woman, I'm a bit sick of old men getting young girls whereas women's tits turn to raisins. I also didn't like that she eventually embraced traditional female roles like going shopping, wearing heels and having to have doors open for you like you can't open them yourself.

    Isn't Wonder Woman like 23?

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    @ganon15 said:

    Isn't Wonder Woman like 23?

    Yeah and he looked +45

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    DCAU is better

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    DCAU for me. I couldn't care less for her Animated-52 counterpart.

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    #26  Edited By Saint_Sophie

    @foamborn: You mentioning the doors thing made me remember Diana and Steve's chat near the end of her animated feature..

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    @foamborn said:

    @ganon15 said:

    I hate both and prefer the trinity not to date each other. I enjoyed her romance with Steve Trevor though in the WW2 episode of Justice League and the 2009 movie

    For me Steve was too old for Wonder Woman, I'm a bit sick of old men getting young girls whereas women's tits turn to raisins. I also didn't like that she eventually embraced traditional female roles like going shopping, wearing heels and having to have doors open for you like you can't open them yourself.

    I will never understand why anyone has ever had a problem with this.

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    @foamborn: You mentioning the doors thing made me remember Diana and Steve's chat near the end of her animated feature..

    I was actually talking about that scene. Diana felt so strongly against those customs but then just kind of adopted them.

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    @scouterv said:

    I will never understand why anyone has ever had a problem with this.

    Because chivalry is based upon the premise that women are the lesser sex (imo)

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    @foamborn said:

    @scouterv said:

    I will never understand why anyone has ever had a problem with this.

    Because chivalry is based upon the premise that women are the lesser sex (imo)

    I open the door for everyone. And I ask people if things are heavy and if they need help, regardless of gender, because sometimes things look heavy and they seem like they need help.

    If that's chivalry, then I suppose I'm just going to have to come up with a new word for doing those things.

    Gonna call it..."Awesome." It's based on the premise that doing a good thing for someone is awesome. Would that make someone opening the door for you any better an act, if they said they were doing it to be "Awesome," instead of chivalry being the reason?

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    I prefer the DCAU Wonder Woman

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    @scouterv said:

    I open the door for everyone. And I ask people if things are heavy and if they need help, regardless of gender, because sometimes things look heavy and they seem like they need help.

    If that's chivalry, then I suppose I'm just going to have to come up with a new word for doing those things.

    Gonna call it..."Awesome." It's based on the premise that doing a good thing for someone is awesome. Would that make someone opening the door for you any better an act, if they said they were doing it to be "Awesome," instead of chivalry being the reason?

    If you opened the door for me because my hands were busy and I was in need of help then that's just being helpful. Pulling chairs and opening doors for women is something else entirely. I don't think men should have to do it. But that's just my opinion.

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    #34  Edited By Saint_Sophie

    @foamborn said:

    @saint_sophie said:

    @foamborn: You mentioning the doors thing made me remember Diana and Steve's chat near the end of her animated feature..

    I was actually talking about that scene. Diana felt so strongly against those customs but then just kind of adopted them.

    Yeah. I like how she was like "I lift weights Steve. I can open car doors." Or something like that then just decided to act like the way Steve asked her..

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    Obvious answer is obvious.

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    DCAU

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    DCAU because they actually put effort towards developing her character

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    #37  Edited By ZhuRong

    @the_kidd: You mean being a hardcore feminist and riding Batman's 9-inch pole throughout the series? Her development wasn't that great to me.

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    @zhurong: yeah but it was better than AN52.

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    DCAU.

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    #40  Edited By ganon15

    @zhurong: They actually have a porn parody cartoon of that Lol

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    #41  Edited By goonage

    Neither.

    She takes all.
    She takes all.

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    @foamborn said:

    @saint_sophie said:

    @foamborn: You mentioning the doors thing made me remember Diana and Steve's chat near the end of her animated feature..

    I was actually talking about that scene. Diana felt so strongly against those customs but then just kind of adopted them.

    Yeah. I like how she was like "I lift weights Steve. I can open car doors." Or something like that then just decided to act like the way Steve asked her..

    I saw that whole bit as them attempting to introduce the Diana Prince ID ... this version of WW was going to man's world more covertly and Steve was meant to be showing her how a woman from man's world would act. Obviously, in this particular world, chivalry was still more common than in our world and the expectation would be that a woman would wait for a door to be opened for her rather open it herself.

    And for the record Chivalry is not about "women being the weaker sex" ... this part of the code is rooted in the concept of showing service to others (certainly that evolved to be more specific to women and took on some negative connotations for certain groups of feminist thinkers). Knights of Medieval times were idealized by bravery in combat, etiquette and service. In some ways it's similar to any other martial arts discipline from human history. A proper knight would be expected to put others needs ahead of his own (thus open a door for a lady) as a gesture of his own discipline and commitment to the greater good (i.e. his liege lord). Today some of us see these small gestures as respectful to others, not as a sign of domination.

    Funny enough the whole thing, now that I'm thinking about it, this isn't too far off from Marston's Loving Submission theme :)

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    Both are very meh

    Also is it really fair to compare a character from 2 series to a character from 2 movies?

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    #45  Edited By ganon15

    @captainmarvel4ever said:

    Also is it really fair to compare a character from 2 series to a character from 2 movies?

    Sure

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    @mysoulz said:

    @youknowwhattodo: I'm actually surprised that you actually care for Cyborg lol.

    I didn't think I would either because he's not exactly the most engaging character, but he was the only character that I identified with in JL:War because he was one of the few rational minds in that sea of buffoonery and after pushing myself through Throne of Atlantis, I kinda felt bad for the guy. Not just because he is half-man, half machine, but he also has to work with this incarnation of the Justice League.

    Ah I see. I for one haven't seen JL:War. I haven't been all that interested in DC animated films recently aside from Batman.

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    new animated one much more of a badass and isn't on batman's D all the time.

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    #48  Edited By ganon15

    @primebonnick said:

    new animated one much more of a badass and isn't on batman's D all the time.

    Instead she's on Superman's D

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    @ganon15: yea but at least she is with him not his cheer leader.

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    New 52 would probably win in a fight but DCAU is better. She was a better character and had a better voice actress. DCAU was just awesome.

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