could the spider-men beat faora if they get a pep talk from holland spidey?
NWH Spider-Men vs Faora
@thekilborne: Completely vaporising an adult human body requires 0.142 GJ, which is Small Building level, per VSB official charts.
Incinerating 5-6 people takes around 1.45 GJ, which is Building level.
How could something have feats on the level of destroying a small building if it has never done so?
It‘s called science bud, energy (J) is easily switched around and calculated. Attack Potency and Destructive capability are two different things, please learn the terms. The small radius of the goblin bomb going off hinders it from actually destroying buildings due to… well… its size, but it has enough energy to do so.
And do you think any of the Spidermen could have survived that missile or even the rounds from the Jet?
Seeing as how they’ve tanked stuff way more powerful than those, like Goblin bomb and Electro blasts… yes, easily. People won’t accept this though since the word ‘Spider-Man’ for some reason makes all this look illegitimate.
@raimiwins1875 said:
@thekilborne: Completely vaporising an adult human body requires 0.142 GJ, which is Small Building level, per VSB official charts.
Incinerating 5-6 people takes around 1.45 GJ, which is Building level.
How could something have feats on the level of destroying a small building if it has never done so?
It‘s called science bud, energy (J) is easily switched around and calculated. Attack Potency and Destructive capability are two different things, please learn the terms. The small radius of the goblin bomb going off hinders it from actually destroying buildings due to… well… its size, but it has enough energy to do so.
And do you think any of the Spidermen could have survived that missile or even the rounds from the Jet?
Seeing as how they’ve tanked stuff way more powerful than those, like Goblin bomb and Electro blasts… yes, easily. People won’t accept this though since the word ‘Spider-Man’ for some reason makes all this look illegitimate.
Hmm if vaporizing a human body is that good then DCEU Black Adam is already up there.
@thekilborne said:
@raimiwins1875: So how exactly do you get the calc vaping a human is small building level?
The amount of energy required to do each are extremely different and I'm not understanding the connection between the two? How could something have feats on the level of destroying a small building if it has never done so?
And do you think any of the Spidermen could have survived that missile or even the rounds from the Jet?
I hope the good and respected Raimi wins doesn’t mind me stepping in (he might have different calc, but I think he may be using the one I found.
Here is a link.
Scientific American is a peer reviewed scientific journal, you aren’t gonna get calcs more solid on CV I don’t think.. note this is for one human with a skeleton left, 1 bomb skeletonized six humans and one bomb turned 1 human and 1 symbiotic to ash… note that the journal equates turning 1 person to a skeleton to a rocket punch from a pacifc rim jaeger.
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The reason some things can be building level in energy and not have a huge destructive blast is concentrated energy. fir example a gas fire can be huge but have way less energy than say a bunker buster or a shaped charge that is ment to concentrate energy at one spot.
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As to your question about if the Spiders can withstand the missile and bullets, I’d say maybe, but with some injuries. Holland took assault rifle fire without it piercing , and he took high caliber shots from Mysterio drones.. the shots from the Mysterio drones ragdolled but didn’t pierce holland, and the energy to ragdoll a human weight like that with a bullet can’t be done with lower calibers, it would take a 50cal level bullet(ish) to ragdoll a human weight like that.. I’m unsure of the missiles model, but tanking goblin bombs to the face, and Mysterio missiles seems to suggest missiles are not outside the spiders ability… not that the spiders would get tagged by this stuff without context.
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Can I ask if you think Faroa can break outta webs that support 1700ton buildings with a tensile strength off the charts according to stark(holland), are 10x stronger than steel(Garfield), and can stop a train(Maguire)? I don’t think she has the feats to break outta 2-3 strands of Holland webs.. let alone 4-5, or 6-7.. incap for the easy win from much faster and more agile Spiders.. i think they can physically contend also, but with webs I think it’s a easy spider win.
Nam-Ek and Superman were KO'd by a bullet,
Even though there are countless other scenes of Nam-Ek and Superman tanking bullets, you're using this specific one? Getting knocked out =/= durability.
Faora was KO'd by a missile,
If you actually watched the movie, you would've known that Faora suffered sensory overload. Zod had to be carried by two other Kryptonians after he had lost his mask, so getting knocked out by a missile isn't an anti-feat for Faora. She clearly had the same side effects as Zod.
Superman was KO'd again by a train going at 100 mph and got dazed for 40 seconds by a petrol station explosion. It's clear that Superman at this point was still not at his best, and it's clear that, considering the mask weaknes, unadapted kryptonians don't even have Building level durability.
Unadapted Kryptonians don't even have building-level durability? Lmao!
The unadapted Kryptonians scale to Superman, since they were on par with him. Nothing suggests otherwise, unless you show direct proof. Last time I checked, Superman > Spider-Men.
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