NWH Spider-Men vs Faora

Definitely Spider-Man, the die hard DCEU guys are even starting to agree. This post is a master class.

I know he just got a new movie, but, c'mon. This is just silly.

I think they have a good chance of doing so.

@the_gaurdian: nothing happened with the eternals. People were/are still just in denials and actively ignoring the context of the re 2/3rd of the movie

Mcu wankers above travel in packs and.circle jerk there debunked idiocy

Foara threw superman tjrough 2 blocks of buildings and broke the hinges of a modern bank vault. She hit a water tanker like a.beach ball. That far surpasses all spiderman

Sup bulrushed her into a garbage truck with zero effect

Foaro (who is only more super without the suit)

Dodged hundreds of uranium tipped tank busters

She no selled a rpg right to the chest

She easily broke through krypt metal(clarks ship)

She survived getting sucked into the phantom zone(whiich crumpled matter into energy)

Goblin bomb didnt even hurt dr strange

Faora all day every day

One spiderman failed to react to a glob of paint thrown at him

Faora

Lock this thread

@ecoblitz: The Island level cloud bullrush and people claiming individual eternals could solo the JL beg to differ

Mcu wankers above travel in packs and.circle jerk there debunked idiocy

Foara threw superman tjrough 2 blocks of buildings and broke the hinges of a modern bank vault. She hit a water tanker like a.beach ball. That far surpasses all spiderman

Sup bulrushed her into a garbage truck with zero effect

Foaro (who is only more super without the suit)

Dodged hundreds of uranium tipped tank busters

She no selled a rpg right to the chest

She easily broke through krypt metal(clarks ship)

She survived getting sucked into the phantom zone(whiich crumpled matter into energy)

Goblin bomb didnt even hurt dr strange

Faora all day every day

Dod had 15 months on zods corpse..not a.scratch..

Clearly it was the pain of senses that ko faora. The screenplay was based on the novel . Not even a singe on faora after the cruise missle

One spiderman failed to react to a glob of paint thrown at him

Faora

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@organic: Spider-Man tanked mirror dimension which tanked Planetary beam yes or no?

Spider-Men reacted lightning which above Faora yes or no?

Spider-Men tanked building level attacks Faora is building level Spider-Man tanks Faora yes or no?

Spider-Man hurt Goblin Goblin hits harder Than Faora yes or no?

Spider-Man no sold to Pumpkin bomb Faora KO'd by missile Pumpkin bomb > Missile yes or no?

@the_gaurdian: druig could solo the dceu, the bullrush is still island level… he still has the speed and durability feats… sersi could also do, makkari? I don’t think so. Ajax? Nah, Gilgamesh? Probably not.

The fact that many people here even think any of the Spider men can solo a Kryptonian says a lot about the current state of Comicvine

@ecoblitz: Druig would have to not be painfully slow for that to be true, and Ikaris would have to actually demonstrated AP on that level but hasn't. It seems you guys will just wank anything with an MCU logo which is why we're stuck with Superman vs. Spiderman threads

@akz:

All facts wanker

You are biased as you are obtuse

Gtfo

@gnkocurvq: @akz:

All facts wanker

Humans easily survive the mirror dimension. (Fail)

The lightning is not normal lightning from electro. It didnt even fry spiderman. Spidwrman has been easily tagged by less

(Glob of paint) fail

Never happened. Spiderman easily gets bruised and battered

Cruise missle>>>>>> goblin bomb

Dr strange wasnt even damaged by one. The same dr who was battwred and bruised capturing the lizard. Fail

Faora strike to a water tanker >>>>> any goblin or spiderman strike

Faora no sold a bullrush from superman into a garbage truck >>>>>>> any goblin or spiderman strike

Lock this thread

Facts dont care about feelings

Faora easily

@cocacolaman: @thevamphunter: Hill-sized Superman?

YEA???????????

Academic! I have come for thee!

Clark is scared of a falling building, runs, yet gets hurt by some falling debris inside of it

Clark is rekt by a fodder tier explosion.

Clark feels bullets like 60mph baseballs

Clark is knocked out by a single bullet.

Clark is pinned by the gravity that existed on Krypton and exhausts his powers fighting it back.

Clark is knocked out by an oil derrick.

Clark is knocked out by impacts that barely damage the street.

Clark is hurt by a falling car and an impact that barely damages the street.

Clark is hurt by a Kryptonian blast and the impact is tanked by a truck. Blasts tanked by plane engines despite their fuel getting ignited, and multiple were needed to bust a door

Clark is hurt by a punch that barely shifts some tables

Clark is hurt by an punch that's no-selled by a restaurant floor.

Clark is hurt by hits that barely damage the street, and tries to avoid/run away from them

Clark's slam is no-selled by the street

Clark's bullrush barely damages the street

Clark is scared of a ground pound that is tanked by an already damaged part of the street.

Clark can't physically break out of a push that is no-selled by an already damaged part of the street.

Clark is knocked out by a train car in freefall

Clark is hurt by going through a gas tank

Clark's flight-assisted headbutt barely damages the memorial pavement

Clark's pimp slap tanked by a peak human and a police car

Clark's vice grip tanked by a peak human for nearly a whole minute

Clark's shoulder check no-selled by gravestones

Clark's 1 arm pull barely damages 1 stair

Clark's 2 arm pull barely damages 2 stairs

Clark's jump stomp is tanked by memorial pavement

Clark is knocked out after being thrown through a bunch of windows

Clark is hurt by a metal bar that, while significantly weakened by his heat vision, no-sells the impact

Doomsday, a Zod amped beyond his biological limits, expands with more force and damage than Clark ever hit Zod with, and is no-selled by extremely damaged dirt in his re-entry crater

Clark is knocked out by Doomsday's double-handed slam, which is either barely damaged or no-sold by pavement

Doomsday is also hurt more by 10 kg tnt missiles/bullets than Clark's flying punches, bullrushes, and cheapshots.

Speaking of cheapshots, Clark's orbital bullrush barely damages the roof of an already weakened building

Nuclear Doomsday forces Clark and Diana back from far away while failing to kill a peak human and a regular human

Nuclear Doomsday's punch is tanked by this very same extremely damaged dirt.

his bullrush barely damages some debris,

His slam(embeds his arm into the blade, connects with the ground after) is no-selled by extremely damaged pavement.

And it's not like the sword could do much either. He fled her attack earlier, and it barely damaged the ground.

How does Clark respond to such power? Well...

Nuclear Doomsday while amped with Clark/Diana's hits can't break free of a lasso pull that is held tight and no-selled by a stone block.

@rajjarsalt:

Ahh raj the syncophantic lieing mcu wanker who uses alts to try to prop up his idiocy

Sup was never hurt by falling debris dumbass. You giff clearly debunks you.

Weird?

You cite the canon mos novel

How come you omit that faora and namek no sold mutlple cruise missles at once?

Or that superman is dwscribed multiple times as invunerable but can feel pain

You cant cite a source and then disavow when it suits you imbecile

Saw you pic

Your ugly as you are stupid

Lmao

After thor was stabbed by loki (and clearly wasnt holding back) h

Thor bodyslammed loki

Namek bodyslam>>>>>***** thors bodyslam

Fyi

Per the canonmos novel

Krytp are more super without the armor

Rest

You post is drivel,lies, ignore germaine context and halftruths

Complete fail dumbass

Faora stomps, different tier

@organic:

Why lie DCEU Wanker?

WHY DO YOU KEEP LYING MATE?

You are deluded as you are obtuse

Clark is hurt by a punch that barely shifts some tables

Clark is hurt by a fodder tier explosion

Clark is knocked out by 1 bullet

Clark is hurt by a punch that's no-selled by a restaurant floor.

YOU LOSE BECAUSE YOU LIE!

Toodles

@supermanwin1875:

Copying and pasting just shows how dumb you are.

Lmao

Jorel = word of god

I beleive him and the increase of all his abilties on screen over a dumbass like your self

Superman : [about Earth's people] Why am I so different from them?

Jor-El : Earth's sun is younger and brighter than Krypton's was. Your cells have drunk in its radiation, strengthening your muscles, your skin, your senses. Earth's gravity is weaker, yet its atmosphere is more nourishing. You've grown stronger here than I ever could have imagined. The only way to know how strong, is to keep testing your limits

Fail dumbass

Toodles

@organic: how do you post this

“ Copying and pasting just shows how dumb you are.”

When you literally did the same thing lol

Faora.

I mean why even debate anyone who holds the opinion of any spidy > kryptonian. Its really not worth it. Besides the 5 mcu fanboys or maybe its alts of the same guy will the majority of people ever anywhere agree to such a opinion so its irrelevant.

These comments are unacceptable. Take a temp ban.

This reaching 3 pages is a great feat for CV /s

@nwname: NWBias returns!

@eredin12:

Perhaps I'm wrong, i now noticed its 3 Spidermen, they will beat the sub-missile level fodder

@organic: Enjoy the temp ban, my friend.

Any Spider solo

Tanking the collapse of the Mirror Dimension(the same size as our universe)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Getting beat by bullet level Superman

@raimiwins1875:

You clearly didn’t understand what I said here. I brought up those flashes from the lightning being light speed so you and perhaps others didn’t have room to lowball this feat later on, since you’ll probably misconstrue what it actually was.

So, there was absolutely no point in posting your previous argument? At first, I thought you were emphasizing that Spider-Man had lightspeed reactions. But now, you're talking about lowballing.

If you watched the scene he literally moves relative to it as he swung behind to web them from the rails. He stops multiple people from being zapped at once from two sides and the electricity climbed up the rails.

Notice how Spider-Man's webs prevented people from touching the metal poles. Regular people also moved when the electricity went through the metal. I guess they're lightning-speed too, right?

You also didn’t seem to address the other feats received in NWH so I take it you accept those?

I responded to your NWH comments.

That’s cool and all but Snyder still stated the Kryptonian’s he wrote for the movie cap at Cruise missile level or less without being KTFO, so it grants credibility to that part.

Screenshot?

Faora indeed was suffering from said Sensory overload but it wasn’t affecting to the extent that she would get KO’d by it. The movie clearly showed it as the missile knocking her out; it flying towards her, zoom in on her face, next cut to her being KO’d. Zod didn’t get KO’d by taking his mask off, nor was his durability decreased due to it.

Faora's sensory overload was so bad that she endured even worse symptoms than Zod, and there's solid proof. Zod could walk perfectly fine, but Faora almost zoned out from sensory overload alone. Sensory overload + exerted force of the missile = knockout.

What exactly are you talking about here? I base my rightful belief of BvS Supes being massively above MoS Supes by comparing one of the BvS feats you bought up compared to how durable MoS Supes was, if you’re not getting the hint MoS Supes (at least in the Smallville fight) is way below BvS Supes via their showings. What’s the basis of your argument for MoS=BvS?

If we're talking about feats in general, MoS Superman and BvS Superman have similar power-levels. They both have similar speed and strength feats. I would argue that MoS Superman has better striking feats (taps, punches, bullrushes, etc).

Feats lmao. In the Smallville fight he was getting folded by a speeding train which didn’t even break upon impact with him and near the end him and Zod’s clash was Large Building-City Block sized.

Again, I'm talking about Superman's strength. Strength =/= durability. Besides, Faora and Superman have much better striking feats than Spider-Man. They both busted Kryptonian metal, which can no-sell re-entry with ease. Even Superman's light tap broke thick layers of Kryptonian metal. Faora can casually break open Kryptonian pods, which also no-sold re-entry.

Don't respond anymore. I'm not going to reply. Based on your current arguments, you have no chance of convincing me otherwise. Faora stomps. Any of the Kryptonians can stomp as well.

Faora vs trained soldiers

Spider-man vs middle aged scientist

@w3b: The first gif does not really help your point. If you slow it down, you will see that one of the soldiers adjusts his gun and fires as she is moving in her blitz. So a norman human tracked her.

@frozen: ock is a normal human who tracks spider-man, so if that’s an anti feat for faora, it applies to all spider men too. Only difference is we clearly see faora is faster than any spider in combat

Lol I love that this guy is showing soilders like that’s impressive.

It’s a impressive scene it out against it no doubt, especially because Ock was busting through the highway and can rip bank vault doors off.

3 Spiders still take this battle… I don’t think showing Faora beat up some soldiers changed anything.

Faora low diffs

The only arguments for faora, are

"Muh Kryptonian"

This is pathetic

She has quicker travel speed and bullrushes, although I will admit her reaction times are probably not as good. Either way its a moot point, as the spideys have been tagged by slower and dont have the durability to take a sustained beating from her. Just look at what the goblin powerbomb did to Tom, if that broke his ribs Faora would turn them to dust.

Watch the part where she hurls Clark out of the building and into the bank vault, completely crushing it. There's not a chance Peter could generate that much force with a throw.

@thekilborne: @frozen: @raimiwins1875:

I'd suggest rewatching some of the scenes from the first spiderman.

As its been nearly 2 decades I thought it was common knowledge by now that there were two types of pumpkin bomb. The first type are the ones which vaporised the people, and are known as the flash bang grenades. These only made one appearance in the film, when they were first used on the balcony.

The second type are the more commonly used standard pumpkin bombs. Goblin seems to prefer using these larger radius, albeit less potent, devices to cause more widespread destruction. Somewhat counterintuitively this also includes in close quarters combat with Spidey, where it would make infinitely more sense to use the more potent flash bangs.

Regardless, the point here is that spidey has never tanked the so called "building level" flash bang grenades, only the standard grenades which are significantly less potent.

Now lets run some calcs based on this updated information. If we are generous and take goblins standard pumpkin bombs to be 5x more powerful than a hand grenade, we are saying that it releases roughly 5MJ (5 million joules) of energy.

Conversely, the hellfire missile which was launched at Faora has a 9kg warhead which is estimated by experts to release roughly as much energy as the equivalent of 22lbs (9.97903kg) of TNT - which is approx. 45.9MJ (49.5 million joules) of energy.

Big difference.

Just a reminder, Faora did take HV which is consistently building lvl with feats:

• HV in BvS incinerated 3+ people in the Knightmare sequence when Batman got captured and Superman executed the other soldiers (should be building lvl minimally)Credit

• Zod leveled a building with HV iirc in MoS, or at least contributed to leveling it

• Superman melted a ton of ice in the Arctic to get to the ship in the early MoS scenes, and it was like 3 Gj of energy (building lvl?)

• It melted steel in an instant (dunno the tier, at least above wall lvl)

Pumpkin bombs did vape more people though

@ulteriormotive: You’re arguments are baseless assumptions by saying pumpkin bomb is only somehow 5x above a hand grenade, when it has feats of vaporising entire human bodies and a gooey Symbiote which seems much more durable than said human. Even vaporising human Brock alone is 187 million Joules, away above your nonsense ‘calc’.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/raimi-goblin-pumpkin-bomb-calc-and-feat-comparison-2241081/

Check post 43 of this thread, I posted an official scan from the SM1 handbook which stated that the bomb which killed the board was indeed somewhat explosive, since it caused the stand on the balcony to separate.

Even if we just ignore that and diverge it to two bombs, 187 million Joules>>49.5 million Joules.