Has Carol's energy durability/resistance surpassed Thor's?

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Poll Has Carol's energy durability/resistance surpassed Thor's? (67 votes)

By faaaar, she dwarfs him in all stats 49%
Just slightly 15%
Hell nah, stop joking 31%
she's way too op rn ngl 4%

Post-marvels Carol vs Full force nidavellir star beam

Could she withstand it longer than Thor?

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Without seeing the complete scene, I’m going to equate them (if not make Thor higher). We know she flew to the core, but once she released the energy, I imagine she flew out.

Thor took a concentrated blast of the full force of the star for an extended period.

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Surpasses Thor by far. Heat durability >>> Thor, by nature of her powers. Raw durability probably >> Thor as well, don't forget she withstood the immense pressure at the core of the star, no-sold Thanos headbutt and Sanctuary II bombardment. She could replicate Nidavellir with zero effort.

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#3  Edited By kataraaaa

She can no-sell every feat he has just like she did to Thanos’ headbutt that knocked him out…

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Probably.

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I'd say yes until the next thor movie.

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I mean, yeah. She absorbs energy.

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She's like a million times stronger than him

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Even malekith has a universe level feat.

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#10  Edited By rajjarsalt

Thanos can't scale over Carol, but he can scale over Hala's star. He and his fodder wiped the floor with Xandar in less than one hour, while the Kree, whose infighting caused the damage to the star, couldn't do that in one thousand years.

If any of you are capable of math you'll understand that the difference between an hour and a year, let alone a whole a$$ millenium is really impressive.

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Obviously. Her energy projection too. Only thing Thor has over her is AP due to SB.

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She's like a million times stronger than him

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not in the same tier (or even close). carol dwarfs him

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#15  Edited By J_Normal

Thor was nearly killed by a beam from a Star While Carol no sold the core completely. The absolute bias you need to say Thor’s Dura is higher than her’s is insane.

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#16  Edited By Omega_Cosmic

Carol dwarfs him, all stats. Thor hasn't done anything close to this feat.

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@j_normal said:

Thor was nearly killed by a beam from a Star While Carol no sold the core completely. The absolute bias you need to say Thor’s Dura is higher than her’s is insane.

@j_normal: Right on the money.

Haha. No it’s not. Thor took the full force of the core in a concentrated beam, and the beam melted Uru.

If you ignore the context, the she is way above him, but with the context, it’s more even. Not to mention that with Stormbreaker, it’s possible Thor would be fine, since once he had it, he flew to Wankanda and bodied six stone Thanos.

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@lightordark:

1. Carol was at the epicenter of a Star being reignited withstanding the total gravitation force of the stars core. That is what taking the full concentrated energy of a star mean. Being that the Star was still burning after Thor completed his feat he may have relocated standing in a star however there is nothing to say he could survive the definition process of a dying star. Even if you want to say they tanked the same thing there is the glaring issue of Carol no selling the process and Thor nearly dying.

Storm Breaker providing regenerative properties outside of the stars beam his not evidence supporting the claim he could tank it now.

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#20  Edited By darkphantom9895

Thor one shots he’s out of her league in everything

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@darkphantom9895:

Post a picture of Thor After his Star feat and I’ll post one of Carol

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There's no way people are arguing over a 5-year-old feat. By this point, most opinions are probably settled. OT I think Carol dwarfs Thor in durability by a significant margin atm not just in energy durability but really in all types of durability.

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Carol's body is physically stronger / durable than Thor's body. Although peak form Stormbreaker Thor has more attack potency than Carol.

But recognize that when the star burns Thor, he had already exerted himself on the star level feat of reigniting the neutron star AFTER the same day already getting beat up offscreen by Thanos, Power Stone to skull tortured, and Power Stone blown up.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/mcu-thor-reignited-the-neutron-star-2324311/

"Carol's body is physically stronger / durable than Thor's body." why you think this?

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Slightly.

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She’s like many tier's above Thor

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@havzaprensi: She totally tanked Thanos’ headbutt that immediately KOed Thor. But one shot from Stormbreaker KOs her. Given how often Dar-Ben struck Carol with the Universal Weapon, Thor would connect.

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#30  Edited By rajjarsalt

@j_normal:

Standing inside a star is = taking its output? LMFAO

Uru is a metal found in the star’s core. And that beam melted it. Dismissed!

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#31  Edited By ParkerKent

Since we're comparing Carol and Thor, here's my full list based on overall power set. In that case, Thor beats Carol. And for the record, energy durability / resistance for Thor changes the second he touches Stormbreaker, which revitalizes him and which he can summon. But yes, I stand by the statement that Carol's body is physically stronger / durable than Thor's body. These things are not clear cut absolutes. Caveats, nuances, and circumstances matter.

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@rajjarsalt:

Raj for starters if Thor took the full force of a star the star would be drained in its entirety. If anyone tanked the full force of a star it would be Carol since she was in the middle of what essentially was the rebirth process of a star.

You are referring to Thor taking the Luninosity of a Netron Star that is factually a weaker feat than tanking the Luminosity of a Yellow Star.

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the movie even gave Carol an indestructible weapon/armament when she was already far and away more powerful than thor in most areas. Now she's more powerful in all areas lol, stormbreaker won't be doing anything, and based on his performance against thanos, it's pretty easy to seperate the ax from thor's grasp. Hell, she'd even be able to turn the ax back on its owner the same way Thanos did, except much easier. Carol's power level is crazy.

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She reignites a star, he takes the full force of a neutron star. Thor still

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#35 frozen  Moderator

Yea it has. His star feat is country tier. Hers is orders of magnitude above.

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She always was more durable than Thor, that doesn't mean she punches harder than him though.

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@alphamon:

The core of Yellow Dwarves are hotter than Neutron Stars.

Also taking the full energy output of a star would mean the star would have exhausted all its energy.

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@alphamon said:

She reignites a star, he takes the full force of a neutron star. Thor still

Wrong.

He took the full force of a DYING neutron star.

Carol reignited a dying star and no-sold being within it.

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@geekryan:

While the reigniting part of the feat is good enough, being inside a star isn't really that crazy compared to Thor who survived the heat of a star that can melt the infinity gauntlet.

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@geekryan:

While the reigniting part of the feat is good enough, being inside a star isn't really that crazy compared to Thor who survived the heat of a star that can melt the infinity gauntlet.

You mean the same Infinity Gauntlet that was replicable by the Avengers, using their limited Earthly tech/materials?

Your comparison equates Thor's durability to that of Uru, which isn't accurate.

We saw how severely damaged Thor was after taking the heat of the star, and he was basically dead. Though we don't see Carol within Hala's sun, there is zero indication that she was harmed in any way.

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@greythejiren:

Given that Yellow Star Cores are hotter than Neutron Stars Hala’s star or our Sun would be able to do the same.

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@j_normal said:

@greythejiren:

Given that Yellow Star Cores are hotter than Neutron Stars Hala’s star or our Sun would be able to do the same.

Is this scientifically accurate?

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Since Carol never got any amps, she remains this powerful as in her below scene. Thor arguably is more powerful than in his below scene as of L&T due to his workout. Impaling someone's chest and dropping them to a knee is a more powerful feat than pushing that person to take a knee. Thanos' chest is not an Infinity Stone, so the Stormbreaker anti-IG hax argument is useless here. I agree that Carol has a better energy durability / resistance feat than Thor based on their respective star feats. But Thor has the better attack potency feat. In both scenes below, Thanos wears the full IG, so he is comparable in both cases, against Carol and Thor.

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#45  Edited By rajjarsalt
@j_normal said:

@greythejiren:

Given that Yellow Star Cores are hotter than Neutron Stars Hala’s star or our Sun would be able to do the same.

Cease this butchery of astronomical proportions.

Sun's core fusing hydrogen to helium - proton-proton chain reaction - several to dozen or so million Kelvin.

Nidavellir neutron star is that and then some, fusing helium to carbon in triple alpha process: round a hundred million Kelvin.

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#46  Edited By rajjarsalt
@j_normal said:

@rajjarsalt:

Raj for starters if Thor took the full force of a star the star would be drained in its entirety. If anyone tanked the full force of a star it would be Carol since she was in the middle of what essentially was the rebirth process of a star.

You are referring to Thor taking the Luninosity of a Netron Star that is factually a weaker feat than tanking the Luminosity of a Yellow Star.

Says who? DCEU fans? This is so unoriginal it might be the poster child for recycling. Goofy a$$ false dichotomy between 100% drain of all star energy vs just the light shining from the star. Even if taken seriously, the evidence quantifying Nidavellir's star's luminosity is too much. The Sun's luminosity is closer to that of a candle than it is to Nidavellir's, which would count high among the X-Ray bursters and the gamma ray bursts, too.

My calculation of the feat uses the star's "full force" as the maximum force it could exert on a given object, with supports coming from Marvel's Science Advisor, lore, and on-screen character statements. So Thor's full force is quite literally force, a force so large it can be measured in solar masses, and boy oh boy it's impressive, it far outstrips whatever the hell this is.

The new argument however is that nuclear fusion happened inside Nidavellir's star, and no one has the power to gainsay it, as the evidence is based on molecular content that reflects certain fusion reactions.

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Captain Marvel is vastly more durable than a planet right now. She's a solid tier or two above Thor. Which is kinda sad ngl

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Do you guys really believe Marvel will make Carol that much stronger than Thor? The addition of new feats for her doesn't make her narratively stronger than her previous selves, unless her new self that performed those feats became vastly more powerful.

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#50  Edited By calclord

@frozen said:

Yea it has. His star feat is country tier. Hers is orders of magnitude above.

Country tier? Says who?