Now that it has been decided which are the most powerful mutants of Marvel, we can discuss which ones are the most powerful and which not so. in my opinion:

1- Franklin Richards

2- Protheus

3- Monarch

4- Legion

5- Vulcan

6- Elixir

7- Mister M

8- Exodus

9- Storm

10- Jean Grey

11- Magneto

12- Kid Omega

13- Hope Summers

14- Iceman

Can’t proteus only warp reality close to him?

I'll be so happy when we get a answer for Franklin RIchards.

Jean> Storm

Lol really and truly this list cant be based on their actual feats....

But then if it's not then why arent Quire and Jean the same....

You know what nevermind, headache coming.

Why does Franklin count as a mutant and not a mutate or something unique to him?

Why is Franklin a mutant but wanda and quicksilver are not mutants anymore?

@corapvp: Because MCU had access to them. Easy.

@the_kidd: Because He's mutant. Born with his power.

@mrnihal: Alright more specifically, why does Franklin group with X-Men mutants when he doesn't carry the X Gene and inherited his abilities from mutates.

Expect Wanda and Quicksilver to be reclassified as mutants again right about the time the X-men are about to hit the MCU.

All that was is petty cross fighting between Fox and Disney/Marvel and of course it would tarnish DisMar if Wanda and QS were suddenly reclassified as Mutants so soon after the deal was closed. It would basically be admitting that the only reason DisMar stripped them of their mutant status in the first place was to spite Fox.

@son_of_storm: Have they even said what they are supposedly now other than just masquerading as mutants? It is going to be so funny when Magneto is revealed to be their father and that they are mutants again lol

IIRC he does carry the mutant gene.

Dunno. I'm more concerned about WIccan and his possible place in HoX than I am about Wanda and Flash Jr.I feel like if "Magic" was a possible category on Hickman's list he definitely would have made the cut along with his mother.

And yes Franklin carries the X-Gene.

@son_of_storm: @magian: Ok. Didn't know he carried the X Gene, thought it was just the cosmic radiation that caused his powers.

@masterofchaos17: I like your list I really do. however could you go into a little detail how you came up with it?

If we take into account all the personas of Legion he should be the second

Here's more accurate list :

1. Franklin - Reality warping on universal scale, created pocket dimensions and fought against Celestials.
2. Monarch - I dunno, Quantum string manipulation is hella OP.
3. Legion - Erased magical elder gods and contained entire universe in the box.
4. Iceman - Defeated cosmic being Stranger after freezing celestial ship, disintegrated Thor and Mjolnir.
5. Mister M - Same as Monarch. Matter manipulation should counter almost any superpower, on paper.
6. Vulcan - According to his creator, he could compete with Onslaught and Phoenix thanks to his hidden potential.
7. Exodus - Erected psi barrier over Genosha and was simultaneously dealing with X-Men/Avengers.
8. Magneto - Stopped breakworld bullet in its track, can control Earth's electromagnetic field.
9. Jean Grey - Consistent planet level telepathy, almost stalemated with LS Nate Gray in telekinesis.
10. Hope Summers/Kid Omega/Storm - All three are trash.

Lol sure am glad we blocked that other Omega Level thread....I'm sure nothing like that will happen here

It's the same principle of course, but I don't want to lock everything. Let's see if things will go differently.

lol i get it, a few different participants here as well

@sabbavsk:

"Jean Grey - Consistent planet level telepathy, almost stalemated with LS Nate Gray in telekinesis."

Def planetary in TP, but i'm almost certain the latter is false, she + dozens of others were simultaneously dominated by LS Nate with tk in every encounter.

Anyone born with their powers is a mutant

@thewatcherking:

Not necessarily, there's quite a few number of people born with their powers,but mutants have a genetic marker (x-gene) that is solely responsible for the development of their powers.

we'll see...

Generally speaking and not including aliens. I’m aware of the gene but what are some exceptions?

@x_insignia1: Jean briefly matched him on this page.

Scott referred to Franklin as a mutant last issue.

@sabbavsk:

That's a hardly a match, everyone's attacking him simultaneously

If she couldn't match while he was still solo

She's Def not matching him when he's fused with Legion.

@sabbavsk: How is Monarch more powerful than Legion?

@sabbavsk:

Also that page seems ambiguous in regards to attack,

Doesn't specify if it's tp or tk.

@thewatcherking:

Daisy Johnson for one, she was born with her powers

@x_insignia1: Yellow and Pink aura indicates telekinesis.

@sentryiceman20: Monarch and Mister M both lack actual feats, so I'm just speculating their potential power level with power set.

@sabbavsk:

Those same auras are present during tp encounters.

Regardless multiple attacks are happening at once, the scan is ambiguous at best.

@sabbavsk: Even by potential power level Legion is superior to Monarch.Mister M has some feats but not enough

Storm's only competition for the number 1 spot on this list are Franklin Richards and Legion. She should be ranked at number three at the lowest.

Storm's feats:

1) She wielded enough power to defeat three beings who were the sum of all matter/life/energy for an entire reality's past, present and future. She tapped into the same power source they were a part of and overpowered them.

2) She defeated Adversary, a universal-level threat with an overwhelmingly powerful attack.

3) She harnessed the full power of a galactic core (millions of stars and planets crammed into a relatively small area of space)

4) She summoned winds strong enough to redirect the full power of Sienna Blaze, a mutant powerful enough to split the planet like a ripe melon.

5) She pulled gamma rays out of a gamma ray gun and fused them with the energies of the world to create an elemental shield around the entire Earth that deflected a world-wide radiation blast from the sun.

6) She blanketed the entire planet with solar winds for four hours straight while maintaining control over the energy so as to not do any damage to the Earth or anyont on it.

7) She was stated to be powerful enough to set the Earth's atmosphere ablaze.

8) She ended a hemisphere-sized hurricane with a wave of her hands.

9) She channeled a continent-sized blizzard through her body to the very top of the atmosphere.

10) She has demonstrated both atomic and subatomic control over the elements allowing her to even create clothing out of thin air via electron manipulation.

11) It's been stated on-panel that she wields near-infinite power. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/TAwChcSe1Jj6ZJ0YwHD8GZYwJKOQeGxi_

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12) She's thrown attacks backed by the full power of a star.

@stormcell: but I don't think she would have many chances against the people above her on the list

I've debunked this.

Anyway, the trash on this team are Jean, Iceman, Exodus, and Magneto. They shouldn't be on here as all of them have clear limits that have been defined in canon.

Iceman's defeat of Stranger was pure PIS, by the way. Not only is Stranger a massively powerful telepath (which he could've used to destroy Bobby), but he also wields the power cosmic at levels higher than the Silver Surfer and can control matter down to the subatomic level. Iceman's powerset can't compete with that.

Jean Grey has never been close to Nate Grey telekinetically: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/MwcSubMiGYacthCGH96_3GfByZ1DlqsVhgKSY2btQ-2QA5gYs0kSluvQ8Nx9ze4Mzbqx2NKqZbxC=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/bECbL0Yzu_53a0pbBDobKOT0NZv

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Here, Jean admits that both X-Man and Cable are more powerful than she: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Qxt9BxwPN5I/VoJPPHlPhdI/AAAAAAAAXqE/5uwB5B1YMI0/s0-Ic42/RCO016.jpg

Mr. M, Legion, and the reality controllers are the only ones on the list who could potentially give Storm grief in a fight.

@stormcell: people categorize Iceman above Storm even when Storm has the same powers as Iceman and beyond

I actually think the OP list is a fair one. been reading up on some of the others not familiar with but ororo definitely higher than characters she is listed above.

Elixer, Exodus, and Vulcan should definitely be below Ororo, though. As far as Vulcan goes, I'll admit that I don't know all of his feats, but I haven't seen or heard of him doing anything close to Storm's high end feats.

Mr. M's power set could be problematic for Storm in a fight, but he doesn't have the feats of raw power she has. It's more the nature of his power that would pose a threat to her rather than his power level itself.

Proteus would be kinda similar to Mr. M in the threat he'd pose to Ororo, but Storm could always do to him what she did to Stardust. Storm's power has far greater reach than either Proteus or M, and because of that reach, she has much greater destructive capabilities than either of them.

So, in terms of who wields the greatest amount of raw power, I still say that only Franklin Richards and Legion can compete with Ororo.

@stormcell: from reading their wikis alone I dont think ororo would be able to do much against the three mutants you listed. the only thing that may allow her victory is her goddess powers but a lot if this is still unexplored and it's not quite clear what limitations she would have. but with the three elixir exodus and Vulcan their durability ability to regenerate and/or reality warping ability would make it hard for me to think ororo at her current levels us more powerful than them.

In terms of raw power, she's more powerful than Elixer, Exodus, and Vulcan. That said, I would think she could kill Exodus or Vulcan if she wanted with some of her internal attacks like the electrical impulse thing...or she could probably incinerated them to ashes which would render them beyond the ability to heal. As for Elixer, while I don't think she can kill him permanently (he can come back from the dead, IIRC), I don't think he'd be able to get close enough to Ororo to do anything. Maybe she can hurl him in space or drown him out at sea at a depth so great he'd never be able to make it to land again?

Anywho, you may disagree, but these were my thoughts. That said, I don't think any of these three (Vulcan, Exodus, or Elixer) brings to the fight the raw force and power Storm does, though they do have greater regenerative abilities than she does.

Hating aside it's about time the main man Magneto gets his title. Anyone who rebuilds and acts as a nervous system of a celestial, grabs a planet sized bullet mid flight what millions of miles away? Throws planetary solar flares and tanks multiple nukes deserves to at the very least be in Icemans class...

That bullet was nowhere near planet-sized.

Also, which issue did he do the Celestial feats you're talking about?

Where has Magneto thrown planetary solar flares? I think you've got him confused with Ororo who threw planetary solar winds.

@stormcell: Magneto acted as the Dreaming Celestial’s nervous system in Uncanny X-Men volume 2, issue 1.

@god_spawn: I stand corrected! It was more of a city sized "planet destroying bullet" traveling "near light speed" from "outer space"

As for the planetary solar flare I was thinking of Xorn and the planetary stroke he gave Jean lol got confused and had to dig in the archives.

I don't recall it even being anywhere near the size of a city. It should also be noted that the bullet was hollow, intangible, and in a zero-gravity environment meaning it weighed next to nothing.

Does Storm even qualify for Omega if Thor exist?