@butterflykyss: morals off Storm still can’t do anything to a moral off Iceman

Storm can’t convert Iceman into steam if he don’t want to.In Astonishing X-men like everyone else Storm was only contemplating what Iceman did weather on a planetary scale.She can’t knock him out with winds and lightning.Thor tried that(the lightning part coupled with physical blows) and didn’t succeed.If Thor’s lightning failed there is no way Storm will knock him out with lightning and this would be the same with the winds

@sentryiceman20: I dont care about thors lightning it's irrelevant. ororo on two different occasions has dropped iceman with her lighting and on one occasion kod him with her winds. you're saying what she cant do but canon does not agree with you.

@butterflykyss: It’s relevant when Thor’s lightning is more powerful than Ororo’s lightning.In canon Storm never faced Iceman when he was really using his powers.She koed a weaker Iceman so my point still stands.Oh and in canon Storm was useless when Iceman snaps out and wrecked havoc on a planetary scale.

@sentryiceman20: and yet he was ko'd twice by ororo. he wasnt weak, he just wasnt as strong as she was. and ororo has used her powers on a planetary level several times and never required a death seed to do it. he did all of that with the help of a death seed.

@butterflykyss: he was weaker than now so it’s not relevant.Reread the story not only this was just a fragment of a death seed but he didn’t amp Iceman.It was said in the story that the death seed didn’t amp his powers,he just freed his mind to his full potential.Your point is moot

@sentryiceman20: freed his mind to his full potential? so another word for amped. iceman at his base level doesnt operate on the level he was at when he had the death seed. and even if he did, you have no proof he could beat ororo. she is immune to the elements so this would include ice. and in the story where ororo kod him with wind and kod him with lightning he was the same as he is now. unless you can prove he was stronger in power now than at those instancesim referring too.

@butterflykyss: he was specifically said that the death seed didn’t amp him.Whatever mental gymnastic you’re trying to play,the comics doesn’t agree with you.At base level he doesn’t operate at this level because he subconsciously hold back in fear of his power.With the death seed all of his mental barriers were gone.Even when the death seed was removed from him,he still has the same level of power.He wasn’t the same.Shows me at this moment when he has enough power to half the thing he can do when he put his mind to it

@sentryiceman20: same level of power. ok now what does that have to do with his durability? and the lightning I saw thor used against him I've seen him use far greater bolts against other characters. was thor bloodlusted or going full out? also show me where he struck iceman with a bolt of lightning please.

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@butterflykyss: His level of power influence his durability

Here he’s stuck by a lightning bolt(I grant you that,he made bigger bolt before)

https://m.imgur.com/FjXR5LC

Nowhere in the comics it showed that he was bloodlusted or going all out.But in the comics he made a nightmare about Iceman and when he awoke he keep saying « Fimbulvetr ».This is the name of the winter of 3 years that precedes Ragnarok

@sentryiceman20: his lightning showed him being destroyed and I'm assuming he regenerated because there was other moisture around. all ororo needs to do is remove any moisture fro when cmhe can reconstitute. however iceman amped with death seed is a beast I will give u that. he still wont be ro.

@butterflykyss: she can’t remove moisture if he take control of it first.And even if that was the case he can reform from moisture from Storm’s body

@sentryiceman20: shes done it with hydroman, stardust, living lightning and Amelia. why can't she with iceman ?

@sentryiceman20: Storm can prevent iceman from getting moisture from your body as she also controls moisture at a molecular level.

@waitomegastorm: the thing is that Iceman has better feats with his control of moisture than Storm so if the two wrestle over moisture control,Storm isn’t going to win

Since when Monarch is a mutant?

If i can let my imagination fly with their potential i would put

1 - The Reality Warpers

2 - Hope Summers

3 - Mr M

4 - Vulcan

The others doesn't matter that much for me,they balance each other

my list

1) jean

2) jean again

3)jean for the trifacta

4) storm and jean

5) storm

6) all the rest

lmao XD XD XP

then @pyrofn be mad

None Hope Summers love ? ;(

1.Franklin Richards

2.Marquis of Death/New Sun

3.Matthew Malloy

4.Legion/Nate Grey

5.Vulcan/Mister M

6.Elixir/Kid Omega/Iceman

7.Exodus/Jean Grey

8.Magneto

9.Hope Summers

...

X.Storm

matthew malloy isnt never coming back he was erased from existence by xavier and eva bell, hes parents never meet, so he was never born......

everyone forgot about him cause he was never born ......even xavier and bell dont remember him

Show me a scan of Bobby achieving such feat because i read it and didn't saw that......and Thor at his peak makes bobby looks like 2 ice cubes ....Bobby is planetary yes...... but Thor is UNIVERSAL

Not sure about the others, but Franklin was confirmed to be the strongest mutant to ever be born in the more recent issues of History of The Marvel Universe.

Considering that he created multiverse & possibly metaverse, I can see why.

1. Reality manipulation (franklin,braddock,proteus)

2. Matter manipulation(Mercator) and energy manipulation(Vulcan)

3. Power manipulation(Hope) and power manifestation(legion)

1- Franklin Richards

2- Legion

3- Proteus

4- Monarch

5- Mister M

6- Magneto

7- Vulcan

8- Exodus

9- Jean Grey

10- Storm

11- Hope Summers

12- Iceman

13- Kid Omega

14- Elixir

Honestly?

1. Legion
2. Hope
3. Monarch
4. Mister M
5. Proteus
6. Storm
7. Vulcan
8. Magneto
9. Jean Grey
10. Iceman
11. Exodus
12. Kid Omega
13. Elixir