Goku vs Naruto, equalized stats

Naruto!

Oh for....

If I said it once I'll say it again. If you have to nerf a character to ridiculous levels, they shouldn't be fighting at all.

@homifred said:

Even with the nerf Naruto still doesn't have an answer for the IT + Genki Dama combo

@rukelnikovftw: Not.The.Point.

@homifred: That's stupid. The point is to compare their skill and technique rather than raw power and speed which is what solves 99% of these kinds of battles.

People still think that boi has a chance against Goku?

Goku is a galaxy+ to Universal being. They shouldn't be compared...at all. It's just another mismatch that tries to present itself as another thing entirely. It's basically spite to nerf one character only so the other character can have a ghost of a chance, technique or no.

My point still stands.

Naruto via versatility.

@homifred: That's the saltiest thing I've ever read

Hmm master of 4 different martial art forms with decades of experience vs (arguable) master of 2 different martial art forms who often neglects this skill for clone beatdown spam and different Rasengan Variations, gee I wonder who would win.

Goku

Both of this character have many arsenals to counter every move they throw at each other hard decide its a win,win for each other side but i'll kakarotto

@mudamudamuda

Goku by far

Goku stomps

lol

I was truly gonna say Goku no doubt and I had this whole thing to say...

But after reading this, I'd say it'd be close...

I don't really know who'd win O_O

Not close at all. Lol.

My opinion hasn't really changed.

"Naruto has no answer to Instant transmission"

*Rival is a teleporter*

Im not sure how CV does it some days....

only difference is that Naruto has to mark something to teleport to it.

Still Goku.

Goku, easily

Oh okay.

Still Goku

Goku.

Goku Wrecks.

Goku. Nardo is a ponce.

I love your avi. Old school dbz art.

@farkam: I really like Toriyama's art with the younger Goku and baby Gohan.

bump?

Why? This had 9 pages and hasn't been posted on in 4 months, pretty sure it's been discussed fully.

@randomsid82: People who weren't around then can take a look at an old thread.

Also cause I wanna.

I would say Goku in a good fight.

@amendment50 said:

Current versions

All stats equalized (strength, DC, speed, durability): Goku's power is reduced, Naruto's is increased; they meet in the middle

In-character

Victory by KO or incap

Both have Chakra and Ki

No Truth Seeking Balls hax

Transformations do not increase stats

With these rules Naruto is winning quite easily.

son goku

Goku

Goku would be overwhelmed with thousands of clones all equal in ability to him, with versatility that puts his and all of DBZ to shame.

Goku kaioken 20x and blitz Naruto. The end.

Have to say this was an extremely disgraceful debate lmao

@brobs: That wouldn't work, transformations and the like don't boost stats. Also, he wouldn't be able to find Naruto anyway. His clones are perfectly identical in every way, especially to sensing.

@marczaddy: Kaioken is a technique so yes it is going to work op didn't stated anything about it. The clones would be killed together with Naruto and thats is not couting that goku will be able to find the real one by Ki sensing.

Still goku

@brobs: KK works by boosting stats, allowing it and not something like Sage Mode to boost stats for Naruto would render the point of equalizing stats moot. Clearly, it's not allowed to do so, based off simple logic.

No, they are exactly identical in every way, that includes energy. Check the scan of Neji searching for Naruto among clones with his Bykugan, he can't find the real one. Goku wouldn't either.

I'm still not seeing why Goku isn't overwhelmed with clones, then downed with a Rasengan or its variants.

Goku has New feats making this fight even more of a curb stomp.

@marczaddy: Kaioken is a f* technique Its not goku problem if Naruto can't use a similar one(I really doubt sage mode is half strong kaioken is) , it is not a transformation and op didn't stated anything about, deal with it.

And right after that he takes out all the clones, clones are really useless here, also goku can fly.

I'm still not seeing why Naruto isn't going to be blitz or solar flare + IT+ Ki based attack or h2h by itself. This is not even funny.

@brobs: Nitpicking, how about we ask the OP?

Naruto can fly. Don't tell me you didn't know that?

Because, clones mean Goku will never find Naruto in time. Also, what H2H showings for Goku even remotely imply he could do that? Sage Mode allows Naruto attack completely unseen with nature energy, and BM allows for chakra arms. Combinations of the two would devastate Goku. Naruto has far too much versatility and way too many tactics to lose this match.

Clone get wiper out by a kiai an attack that cannot be seen.

Instant transmission keep Goku out of tight spots.

Kaio-Ken is a technique so the power-boost will apply.

God ki make Goku 'invisible' to Naruto.

Instant Transmission Kamehameha FTW.